The Next Manager?

[coolhead23 1,146]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

If it was because of the injury, then Sarri was silly to react the way he did after Kepa said he was okay to continue. If it was pre-planned, then this should have been communicated beforehand and even if not, these things should at least be talked about in the team meeting.

Like I said, there are decision which happens in the moment irrespective to what is talked pre match or based on the dynamics on the ground ... it looked like that. Why is Sarri silly even if it was an injury ... he makes the call based on various factors not anyone else. 

2 hours ago, Jason said:

I don't mean literally. Luiz did it in a half-hearted manner while Zola only did it once Sarri went ballistic. No one was really doing anything significant from preventing the situation to turn out as it did.

I was referring to the fact that there were people involved in trying to get Kepa off ... Again what would u expect from Luiz to drag him out ... half hearted or otherwise ... he did try to convey the message. 

2 hours ago, Jason said:

I don't blame Sarri for feeling angry but what I do expect from him is to be in charge of the situation, stand his ground if he really wanted that sub to happen. He's the manager of the team, he's supposed to be the leader and yet, he went totally ballistic and lost control of the situation.

I respect your opinion but I dont blame his action and find it justified purely based on his personality ... I would loved to have a controlled reaction but I wouldnt blame him ... 

[Antonio8 736]

there will be the queue of top manager to join this circus 

[Kajo 176]

No one is gonna touch this club with a stick after yesterday.

[Special Juan 27,424]

1 minute ago, Kajo said:

No one is gonna touch this club with a stick after yesterday.

There will always be someone, not only that but the hefty wages we pay will always attract people. Plus, it's easy, they normally only get two seasons, get sacked and receive millions.

[Pizy 18,368]

If Sarri goes, our next permanent manager will likely be someone in the same sort of position that Sarri was in. Someone with a great record at a 2nd tier club who wants to prove they can take the step up to the big stage. No big name manager will touch us at this point. Honestly, there aren't even any big name managers left out there other than Mourinho so that doesn't matter. The big name managers we've been linked with in the past year or two are well settled and have no reason to leave (Simeone, Allegri, etc). 

And I hope the club don't get it in their head that we need a club legend or former assistant because it'll end in tears. We need someone highly experienced in a big league and who has managed star players/egos before. Can't afford to take some massive risk when you're competing with Pep, Klopp, Poch etc. 

 

[Kajo 176]

There will always be someone, not only that but the hefty wages we pay will always attract people. Plus, it's easy, they normally only get two seasons, get sacked and receive millions.

Well in case we gonna part ways with Sarri club will want to go for someone of higher caliber and usually those are the smart ones so no one will want to set himself up for a failure when there is countless problem at the club with no sight of them being address anytime soon.

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[Antonio8 736]

7 minutes ago, Kajo said:

Well in case we gonna part ways with Sarri club will want to go for someone of higher caliber and usually those are the smart ones so no one will want to set himself up for a failure when there is countless problem at the club with no sight of them being address anytime soon.

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people truly believe that someone like allegri or zidane or simeone could join chelsea? for what reason? to ruin their career? 

 

[Superblue 6,370]

10 minutes ago, Antonio8 said:

people truly believe that someone like allegri or zidane or simeone could join chelsea? for what reason? to ruin their career? 

 

Big club paying big wages, based in London (which is a big attraction for a lot of foreign players and managers) and the added attraction of working in the Premier League.

We're not this poisoned chalice people make us out to be either, we've had some excellent managers here who have been successful and gone on to achieve further success elsewhere or left without their reputation damaged.

Even Sarri if he leaves at some stage this season, will still be highly regarded in Italy and get a top job back there.

Simeone I cannot see leaving Atletico. However Zidane is available and I see no reason why he wouldn't have some interest in the role. Similarly there's rumours Allegri may leave Juventus in the summer so again, he may be interested to try his hand in a new league next year.

[Clockwork 1,794]

I would be quite happy with someone like Laurent Blanc tbh.

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

9 hours ago, Jason said:

If the sub really was pre-planned, then this is where I have issue with. Unless Kepa decided to say fuck it at the last minute (in which case then he should be punished), Sarri should have communicated this to Kepa and the players pre-match. Not saying Kepa's reaction turned out to be the right one but if you decide to take a keeper off and his chance to be the hero for the team 1-2 minutes from the end without any warning, then you shouldn't be surprised to see some sort of protest from the keeper. As it was and the fact that no one else appeared to do anything (be it the players dragging Kepa off or the coaching staff telling him to come off), suggest the entire situation was badly mismanaged. If this decision had been communicated beforehand, we would be sitting here and talking about the performance instead.

Also, I just had a look back at the incident and don't think Sarri covered himself in glory in that situation either. Why didn't Sarri stand his ground on the sideline and insist on the change if he really was hell-bent on making it? He first came to the touchline to signal the change, went back and wrote something, came back out looking pissed when he realized Kepa didn't want to come off, ref came to talk to him and he then went ballistic and threatened to walk out. He should have been in control of the situation but ended up wasn't, opposite to what he said post-match. Again not saving Kepa's reaction was right but Sarri's angry reaction and lack of control only added to the mess and confusion in that incident. 

then again, part of me thinks if it was pre planned, Willy would have already been warming up.  Its hard to say

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

both have come out of it looking bad.

 

Kepa for unprofessionalism. Sarri for lack of backbone.  

[Jase 43,479]

14 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

then again, part of me thinks if it was pre planned, Willy would have already been warming up.  Its hard to say

If Luiz's comments are anything to go by, then I don't think the players knew what was going on as well. 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

50 minutes ago, Jason said:

If Luiz's comments are anything to go by, then I don't think the players knew what was going on as well. 

Its not a misunderstanding anyway.  A misunderstanding does not continue for best part of 3mins, leading the manager to want to fuck off out of the stadium (lol) and then have to be restrained from getting to Kepa before pens.

 

Its face saving from the club.  I suspect many photos of Kepa and Sarri laughing and joking to surface soon, too

[Antonio8 736]

2 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Big club paying big wages, based in London (which is a big attraction for a lot of foreign players and managers) and the added attraction of working in the Premier League.

We're not this poisoned chalice people make us out to be either, we've had some excellent managers here who have been successful and gone on to achieve further success elsewhere or left without their reputation damaged.

Even Sarri if he leaves at some stage this season, will still be highly regarded in Italy and get a top job back there.

Simeone I cannot see leaving Atletico. However Zidane is available and I see no reason why he wouldn't have some interest in the role. Similarly there's rumours Allegri may leave Juventus in the summer so again, he may be interested to try his hand in a new league next year.

this club is ruled by people without football competence

there is the perspective of market's ban 

there is a dressroom that decide what matches are to play and what not ( 4-0 with bournemouth) 

no professionalism at all (today journals that talk about mutiny)  

it's a mess and a top manager  at the peak of his career will never join here if things aren't fixed by abram imho 

 

[Special Juan 27,424]

1 hour ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

Its not a misunderstanding anyway.  A misunderstanding does not continue for best part of 3mins, leading the manager to want to fuck off out of the stadium (lol) and then have to be restrained from getting to Kepa before pens.

 

Its face saving from the club.  I suspect many photos of Kepa and Sarri laughing and joking to surface soon, too

Exactly. It wasn't a misunderstanding at all, it was Kepa saying "I'm not coming off" and the manager saying "You are"

I thought I was watching a Punch and Judy show at one point.

[Superblue 6,370]

34 minutes ago, Antonio8 said:

this club is ruled by people without football competence

there is the perspective of market's ban 

there is a dressroom that decide what matches are to play and what not ( 4-0 with bournemouth) 

no professionalism at all (today journals that talk about mutiny)  

it's a mess and a top manager  at the peak of his career will never join here if things aren't fixed by abram imho 

 

With the exception of the transfer ban (which is widely expected to be deferred through at least this summer on appeal anyway), all the other things pointed out have been thrown at Chelsea since Mourinho was first here, yet we've attracted a number of top managers to the club at their peak and even the ones not considered the biggest names were coming off the back of blossoming reputations (AVB, Sarri).

Are we seriously in a worse position then we were in Mourinho's final season where we scraped up to mid table eventually and didn't even qualify for Europe whatsoever? That summer we got Conte.

I don't buy this idea that top managers wouldn't be interested in taking the job. 

I do however agree entirely about not having a 'football person' on the board. The current structure we have and the need to start maximising resources, academy talent, etc we are crying out for a top director of football to be given faith and trust to come in and run the football side of the club.

[Tomo 21,733]

4 hours ago, Antonio8 said:

people truly believe that someone like allegri or zidane or simeone could join chelsea? for what reason? to ruin their career? 

 

Why would it ruin their careers?

[Special Juan 27,424]

Ruining your career is a leg snap or double break etc, not managerial appointment. It's the only job in the world where you get sacked and get paid millions.

Sackings are part and parcel of football, it isn't big news when managers get sacked now. Managerial stuff now is just one big massive circle, they get sacked and get another job, easy.