DYC. 7,542 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I think saying Mourinho and Simeone are the same is the same as saying Guardiola and Wenger are the same. They're not. There are similarities but they're not the same.Wouldn't mind Simeone at all but I would prefer a manager with a different approach. Why wouldn't we deserve performances with our team taking teams by the scruff? Obviously not possible in every game but it would be the aim, the style. We've witnessed the pragmatic and defensive game for so long. iseah100, Clockwork and Styles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Come to Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Simeone is good if he is free - he made the Atletico wunder team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Guus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Maybe the best option is, now that we only have one assistant manager - it seems we always have two now? - maybe getting a club legend like Drogba, Terry, Lampard etc. (one that just pop into head) for a grooming to be a long succesor. They be involved with the first team training, learn tactics from the actual manager -- Simone, Guardiola etc. -- and would also have a connection towards the club's image and the support.It could be akin to Ryan Giggs and Man U, or the supposed idea, or Ally McCoist and Walter Smith at Rangers (dunno much information about that). Ossie the King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 That Era has passed IMHO You win more with honey than vinegar now, it's better to get people to buy into a philosophy, than rule by fear.Ruling by fear, doesn't earn respect.I don't know - think you are taking this player power thing a bit too far with little proof?That's not a criticism dude - you know I respect you - just an observation Simeone's vinegar seems to do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 The problem with Simeone is not the fact that he too is a coach that puts emphasis upon the defence and the hard work. The problem is that just as Mourinho he is the negative and aggressive kind of coach. That's not what we need. From the board to the fans, and most specifically the players, Chelsea needs positivity—Chelsea needs to enjoy football again, and not to grind results against the World.So who would you pick out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 So who would you pick out of interest?you keep asking that , WHO would you pick ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I'm not overly excited about Simeone, though I do think that's who we'll go for.Togetherness, spirit, counter-attacking, it sounds very familiar. I don't see it as progress for the club. I don't think he's bad, it just doesn't excite me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I'm not overly excited about Simeone, though I do think that's who we'll go for.Togetherness, spirit, counter-attacking, it sounds very familiar. I don't see it as progress for the club. I don't think he's bad, it just doesn't excite me.I like Simeone, but that's mostly because I think he fits the ethos that Jose set down. He's combative, he wears his heart on his sleeve, he fights for his players and defends them and on the pitch he isn't an adherent to beautiful football for it's own sake. He isn't afraid to be pragmatic, but he's had to be as an underdog in La Liga. He's also had good success there.But this whole discussion for me is pointless unless we put the new coach in a position to succeed. That means having people throughout the club who are all working towards a common goal for what we want to put on the pitch, and that needs to feed down into every level of the academy.If we don't do that then we'll just keep spinning our wheels. The Chels and Sideshow Luiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I like Simeone, but that's mostly because I think he fits the ethos that Jose set down. He's combative, he wears his heart on his sleeve, he fights for his players and defends them and on the pitch he isn't an adherent to beautiful football for it's own sake. He isn't afraid to be pragmatic, but he's had to be as an underdog in La Liga. He's also had good success there.But this whole discussion for me is pointless unless we put the new coach in a position to succeed. That means having people throughout the club who are all working towards a common goal for what we want to put on the pitch, and that needs to feed down into every level of the academy.If we don't do that then we'll just keep spinning our wheels.Yeah. "We'll see" is all we have right now. Part of the reason he doesn't excite me is precisely that he seems like a continuation of Jose (in which case, why did we get rid of him?). It seems like more of the same. Which means same old board and same old decisions/recruitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 we can have a new battle cry DEFEND DEFEND DEFEND rename the Bridge The Alamo and get in Davy Crockett ,, BUT there is another way ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Simeone's vinegar seems to do the trick.Maybe, but I'm not sure his is the same vinegar as Mourinho's...I think Mou kinda lost the plot, I haven't (and not been paying close attention) seen Simeone throw his players under the bus, nor sub one on and off in the space of a few minutes. So it's probably not a comparison of apples to apples, more like apples to oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Maybe, but I'm not sure his is the same vinegar as Mourinho's...I think Mou kinda lost the plot, I haven't (and not been paying close attention) seen Simeone throw his players under the bus, nor sub one on and off in the space of a few minutes. So it's probably not a comparison of apples to apples, more like apples to oranges Oh no I agree - Simeone is not identical to Mourinho. I actually like the comparison someone said of Guardiola to Wenger. Its not a perfect way to France the Mourinho/Simeone comparison but it's a start. Simeone is a winner. He parks the bus when he needs to, he presses like a cocaine addict when he needs to. He was won a league with an underdog team against two giants, each having one of the game's greatest players. If the board sees that it needs to spend money consistently, he'll be in a more conductive environment for success. Tomo and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 English and Spanish media now reporting Chelsea have opened talks with Diego Simeone. Objective number 1. #CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Come to Chelsea.#MCM. [emoji16] I like Simeone, but that's mostly because I think he fits the ethos that Jose set down. He's combative, he wears his heart on his sleeve, he fights for his players and defends them and on the pitch he isn't an adherent to beautiful football for it's own sake. He isn't afraid to be pragmatic, but he's had to be as an underdog in La Liga. He's also had good success there.But this whole discussion for me is pointless unless we put the new coach in a position to succeed. That means having people throughout the club who are all working towards a common goal for what we want to put on the pitch, and that needs to feed down into every level of the academy.If we don't do that then we'll just keep spinning our wheels.I think he fits who Chelsea are. I don't want to become Bayern and dominate possession and play what people want us to play like. I like a tough, rugged team that gets the job done. Counter attacking and tight defending is what i want because those players who fit that style are tough and have balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I have misgivings about Hiddink, but if he proves to be a success in his short term, I see no reason why at the end if the season the team should go for another manager. Hiddink was only a caretaker in 2009 because he was also Russia NT manager. In 2011 he was available, but the club made a weird move and took AVB.Simeone is a good manager, but questions must be asked about his ability to emulate ouside La Liga his succes with Atletico Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 If guardiola is available, I think he is going to be Roman no 1 choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I dont see how so many think Simeone would be the best option. The way he sees football is very similar to Mourinho. I think we need a more flair manager right now. Spike, bellion and Atlas Lion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I dont see how so many think Simeone would be the best option. The way he sees football is very similar to Mourinho. I think we need a more flair manager right now.Thats the reason why most people want Simeone. Btw, next season will be tough, because its going to be a season to find stability again. I don't believe its the best time to get Simeone. As I said before, if Hiddink short term is a success, I see no reason why he should not stay beyond 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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