Chelsea Transfers

[killer1257 3,282]

why would he miss the rest of the year?
his knee Injury was Mar 8, 2020, surely he will not be out 15 straight months with it

There are reports in Germany the last couple of days that his injury is very complex and takes a lot of time to heal properly (and it seems to be healing), and Gladbach expects him to be out for a while longer. The problem was that the extent of his injury came out later than expected. First they said he does not need operation, then he suddenly needs one etc.
Also, he had some setbacks with his injury.
So, according to German reports I read, he will not play football the rest of the year. Maybe, he might make a comeback january next year or something.

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[Vesper 29,136]

6 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

There are reports in Germany the last couple of days that his injury is very complex and takes a lot of time to heal properly (and it seems to be healing), and Gladbach expects him to be out for a while longer. The problem was that the extent of his injury came out later than expected. First they said he does not need operation, then he suddenly needs one etc.
Also, he had some setbacks with his injury.
So, according to German reports I read, he will not play football the rest of the year. Maybe, he might make a comeback january next year or something.

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well, IF his injury is so bad that he does miss the entire season

then

hard pass

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

and with Partey now gone

its Rice or bust for the trad DMF cruncher role

 

all the others I rate are not the true trad DMF type, they are more roamers

Camavinga or if he is Real Madrid or Barca-bound 

then go for the next best things, Boubacar Kamara or Bruno Guimarães or Ismaël Bennacer (a hard pull, I doubt he leaves AC Milan) or finally the last of those 4 for me in terms of my preference, Boubakary Soumaré

Boubacar Kamara and  MAYBE Boubakary Soumaré are the closest to a trad DMF

 

next summer is the last window Marcelo Brozovic as a viable buy (due to his age) BUT he is not a true DMF really, and if we wanted him, we have had multiple chances for years and years )but I would not lose my mind if we bought him, he is a class player, just wish we had grabbed him 5 years ago or so)

Marten de Roon is 30yo in 5 months, so hard pass, and he is hardly WC anyway, and never will be (obviously)

Kalvin Phillips is interesting, but he is overvalued now (English tax), will cost £50m or more, which is too much 

Aurélien Tchouaméni, soon 21yo from Monaco is another interesting player

that's about it atm, in terms of my main list

 

All you need to know about Man Utd, City, Chelsea-linked Denis Zakaria

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/all-you-need-to-know-about-man-utd-city-chelsea-linked-denis-zakaria/

The latest rising star to follow in the footsteps of Kai Havertz and Timo Werner in trading the Bundesliga for the Premier League could well be Borussia Monchengladbach midfielder Denis Zakaria.

That’s according to the latest talk in the tabloids, with suggestions that Chelsea and Manchester United are keeping close tabs on the 23-year-old Switzerland international, who has previously been linked with Liverpool and Manchester City.

But who is he, what kind of player is he, and how good is he? Here’s everything you need to know about Zakaria.

The story so far

Born and raised in Geneva and developed at local club Servette, Zakaria started to make a name for himself for Switzerland’s Under-19s and was soon scouted by Swiss Super League giants Young Boys, who signed him as an 18-year-old in 2015.

He immediately became an important player for the club, making 67 appearances across two seasons as they finished runners-up in successive years to a dominant Basel side on a run of eight straight titles.

 

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[NikkiCFC 8,065]

 

[King Kante 1,519]

On 24/10/2020 at 1:40 PM, Vesper said:

well, IF his injury is so bad that he does miss the entire season

then

hard pass

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

and with Partey now gone

its Rice or bust for the trad DMF cruncher role

 

all the others I rate are not the true trad DMF type, they are more roamers

Camavinga or if he is Real Madrid or Barca-bound 

then go for the next best things, Boubacar Kamara or Bruno Guimarães or Ismaël Bennacer (a hard pull, I doubt he leaves AC Milan) or finally the last of those 4 for me in terms of my preference, Boubakary Soumaré

Boubacar Kamara and  MAYBE Boubakary Soumaré are the closest to a trad DMF

 

next summer is the last window Marcelo Brozovic as a viable buy (due to his age) BUT he is not a true DMF really, and if we wanted him, we have had multiple chances for years and years )but I would not lose my mind if we bought him, he is a class player, just wish we had grabbed him 5 years ago or so)

Marten de Roon is 30yo in 5 months, so hard pass, and he is hardly WC anyway, and never will be (obviously)

Kalvin Phillips is interesting, but he is overvalued now (English tax), will cost £50m or more, which is too much 

Aurélien Tchouaméni, soon 21yo from Monaco is another interesting player

that's about it atm, in terms of my main list

 

All you need to know about Man Utd, City, Chelsea-linked Denis Zakaria

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/all-you-need-to-know-about-man-utd-city-chelsea-linked-denis-zakaria/

The latest rising star to follow in the footsteps of Kai Havertz and Timo Werner in trading the Bundesliga for the Premier League could well be Borussia Monchengladbach midfielder Denis Zakaria.

That’s according to the latest talk in the tabloids, with suggestions that Chelsea and Manchester United are keeping close tabs on the 23-year-old Switzerland international, who has previously been linked with Liverpool and Manchester City.

But who is he, what kind of player is he, and how good is he? Here’s everything you need to know about Zakaria.

The story so far

Born and raised in Geneva and developed at local club Servette, Zakaria started to make a name for himself for Switzerland’s Under-19s and was soon scouted by Swiss Super League giants Young Boys, who signed him as an 18-year-old in 2015.

He immediately became an important player for the club, making 67 appearances across two seasons as they finished runners-up in successive years to a dominant Basel side on a run of eight straight titles.

 

snip

 

Alternatively, Amapdu may be able to slot in. He was very impressive against the Dippers. In my opinion, if Amapdu can stay fit and concentrate his game on becoming a DM (which I think is his best position anyway) then I think he becomes a usable option in the next 12-24 months. Tbh, with the options we have to play the pivot I was slightly surprised he wasn't kept as he is probably better suited to playing alongside Kante/Jorgi/Kova than any of those as a pair. I suspect, we it may have been because we couldn't shift any of them we loaned Amapdu as he is in desperate need of minutes. 

[milka 3,359]

 

[Vesper 29,136]

18 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

 Vince is a few monyhs late, lolol.

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

Good perofrmance from ginter today vs leipzig. Ialwys find it amazing how gladbach have no-name non-international german and austrian players like hoffmann or wolf to play at such a levle they can compete with superexpensive squads. i guess we just have alot of talent in the ocuntry

[NikkiCFC 8,065]

We go again.

No doubt we will use one more year option for Silva, Zouma is great so two of Chris, Rudi and Tomori (loan) would have to leave.

 

[King Kante 1,519]

6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

We go again.

No doubt we will use one more year option for Silva, Zouma is great so two of Chris, Rudi and Tomori (loan) would have to leave.

 

Gladbach seem to still rate AC to a certain extent. I reckon there could be a chance of a AC+ cash deal. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Summary:

Chelsea will try again in January for Rice

West Ham are offering him a new contract with higher wages to try and get him to stay

2 permanent deals had been arranged for players in the final days of the last window to facilitate a move for Rice but both fell through

Lampard sees him as first choice as a DM and a depth option at CB

Club believe Rice can be convinced if a fee is agreed, hence trying in January

He would be eligible for the Champions League

Kante is seen as more of the attacking member in a pivot or the right hand midfielder of a three

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

Kante is seen as more of the attacking member in a pivot or the right hand midfielder of a three

[Fernando 6,496]

Yup, Rice is the player we need to complete this team. With him we will be well balance in mid, defense and attack. 

[Puliiszola 519]

17 hours ago, Jason said:

He is not wrong. He played the more attacking pivot player in Leicester's title win (DD being the anchor) and even with us, he played as the more attacking/forward one with Matic being the anchor (Conte's title).

Its actually one with France that he plays as the anchor of the pivot.

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

He is not wrong. He played the more attacking pivot player in Leicester's title win (DD being the anchor) and even with us, he played as the more attacking/forward one with Matic being the anchor (Conte's title).

Its actually one with France that he plays as the anchor of the pivot.

It looks that way because Kante is the seek-and-destroy type of defensive midfielder. He goes around and stop attacks from building up. It's not his natural game to just sit in and mop every thing up. 

Sarri tried to make Kante more of an attacking midfielder and the results have been mixed at best.

[Puliiszola 519]

6 hours ago, Jason said:

It looks that way because Kante is the seek-and-destroy type of defensive midfielder. He goes around and stop attacks from building up. It's not his natural game to just sit in and mop every thing up. 

Sarri tried to make Kante more of an attacking midfielder and the results have been mixed at best.

True. I infact think that kante-rice would be a brilliant pivot. 

[King Kante 1,519]

Just reading through the pages and it is funny. 10 months ago we all thought that the squad would need a massive overhaul and it would require us to be canny and bide our time for 2-3 years. Now the majority think it is a case of a DM plus a CB and we are set for years. 

[Vesper 29,136]

only players I actually am 100% in for atm

CB José Giménez (only if he puts together a long fully healthy run)  or
CB Marquinhos   (can play DMF as well, Agent Thiago perhaps?)

DMF  Declan Rice (CB as well, he is deffo coming, I have no doubt and I rate him, Zakaria had another set back with his knee, I am scared off him)

DMF/CMF Eduardo Camavinga (absolutely unique player, he would be a fucking terror here under Lamps, he turns 18 on Tuesday) or Jude Bellingham

SS/RW/AMF  Paulo Dybala (he is unhappy at Juve and super versatile) or Hiving Lozano

CF Erling Håland (contract is until 2024 so doubt he moves next summer, he is insanely good, soon, IMHO, if he keeps improving, will be the 2d best player on the planet after Mbappe, This is my long range dream signing, doubt he comes here though, but I would take him over Sancho or any other young player, save for Mbappe, which is never happening, lolol)

 

that's it for me

simple, narrowed down, ultra high level, all are WC players or damn near

 

 

 

 

 

[King Kante 1,519]

48 minutes ago, Vesper said:

only players I actually am 100% in for atm

CB José Giménez (only if he puts together a long fully healthy run)  or
CB Marquinhos   (can play DMF as well, Agent Thiago perhaps?)

DMF  Declan Rice (CB as well, he is deffo coming, I have no doubt and I rate him, Zakaria had another set back with knee, I am scared off him)

DMF/CMF Eduardo Camavinga (absolutely unique player, he would be a fucking terror here under Lamps, he turns 18 on Tuesday)

SS/RW/AMF  Paulo Dybala (he is unhappy at Juve and super versatile)

CF Erling Håland (contract is until 2024 so doubt he moves next summer, he is insane, soon, IMHO, if he keeps improving, will be the 2d best player on the planet after Mbappe, thsi is my long range dream signing, doubt he comes here, but I would take him over Sancho or any other young player, save for Mbappe, which is never happening, lolol)

 

that's it for me

simple, narrowed down, ultra high level, all are WC players or damn near

 

 

 

 

 

Haaland could become better than Mbappe. His scoring record is insane.

As for his contract his buy out kicks in during Summer 2022. €65m. I have been thinking to myself for a while, if we can bed in all the new signings and have Mount and James become legitimate first XI players (and possibly Gilmour) by 2022, we should be a very attractive option for him. I mean, our first XI squad in at the start of 2022/23 could include: James (22), Chilwell (25), Harvetz (23), Mount (23), Rice (24) (I think he comes next Summee) and Puli (23). At that point Haaland would still only be 22 that could be a serious squad for a decade. That is also before we get to CHO (22), Gilmour (21) and Ampadu (23) who should all be knocking around the swuad or in the first XI depending on progress. 

Only real concern will be CB as Silva will be 38 by then, and whilst Zouma is playing well at the moment, we need to see if he has actually improved/improving or if it is because he is having his hand held by Silva. If we can sort a real long term CB1 then we should be laughing.