Chelsea Transfers

[Muzchap 8,966]

Wish Havertz would sign so we talk about something else other than keepers 🤔

 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

16 hours ago, Jason said:

I disagree? Oblak or Ter Stegen has proven themselves over the years and while the fee may be huge for a keeper, at least we would know what we get from them.

I do not believe, and never have, that premium keepers are difference makers for struggling sides. Eden raised our level; I don't think any keeper would, or could, have done that.

Premium keepers are cherry on the cake players. When you've put together your cake then perhaps go to town on a keeper but, when you are in a building phase focus the cash where you need it most. A good side with a bad keeper will always outperform a bad side with a good one. In fact the bad or ordinary keeper is invariably overrated when he's playing for a good side. My objection to Kepa was simply that I would not have spent that money on a keeper, no matter who he was. Going with Marcin, then upping the offer for Koulibaly instead could have seen us become a much better side over the past two seasons than we have been.

[NikkiCFC 8,064]

Reading first couple of pages on this thread makes me realize how amazing our transfer window has been. The board did more than anyone expected. The only problem is what Kepa become in the last 12 months but we will address that too.

[Vesper 29,127]

it is staggering the amount of Gk'ers we have been linked with

Jan Oblak 
Marc-André ter Stegen  
Gianluigi Donnarumma 
André Onana    
Bernd Leno  
Unai Simón   
Jordan Pickford    
Alex Meret   
Thomas Strakosha  
Dean Henderson  
Juan Musso  
Mike Maignan   
Pau López  
Ugurcan Cakir  
Neto  
Alphonse Areola  
Aaron Ramsdale    
Nick Pope    
Jasper Cillessen   
Alban Lafont   
Roman Bürki    
Péter Gulácsi     
Yann Sommer   
Kasper Schmeichel  
Predrag Rajkovic   
Emiliano Martínez  
Martin Dubravka    
Edouard Mendy 
Jack Butland   
Fraser Forster  
Salvatore Sirigu  
Sven Ulreich    
Vicente Guaita
Tim Krul

probably left some out too

[BlueLyon 9,359]

8 hours ago, Hutcho said:

It is very different positions.

Chillwell could be a shite left back and we'd be able to sell him for 20-30 mil quite easily based on what could be and what he was for leciester.

Look at morata. People look at him as being a bust but we recouped the investment same as many others.

World record fee for a kid on a hype train who didn't have the attributes of a top gk was always incredibly risky.

But it's done now and it's the situation we're in. He's somehow still getting picked for Spain so someone rates him so maybe someone will buy him down the road

It realy depends how shit they are, realy. We cant offload Drinks and we will never recoup half of what he cost. Probably Bakayoko too.

Kepa failed spectacularly and given the price, it will indeed be impossible to get much back. 

But like I said, thats down to the club picking such target. Pretty much same Bayern did with Sanchez. Extremely overpay for a decent player.

That said if you pay extremely for someone and he turns out as expected, who cares? 

And that was my point. We choose wrong player, not the amount of money. I mean sure I was sceptical about spending that much money on Kepa. I personaly wouldnt pay. But Im no scout. I wouldnt pay that for Chilwell either. Its common sense to see how much risk there is. Meanwhile Alisson? Yes, I would. So the GK position isnt the problem. Problem is WHO you pick to spend that cash on. 

On another note, Atletico spending 120m on Felix was another example of idiotic decisions, which I stated back then. 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

9 hours ago, Jason said:

The club wanted to buy Alisson but that went out of the window once he joined Liverpool. Kepa was recommended by Sarri. 

Buying players that fit just one manager is terrible too. Which is what I said plenty times. What if manager leaves? Then you have a bunch of players not fitting anymore (Jorgi?) 

What if Lamps is fired or whatever? I hope Chilwell was bought as a part of Chelsea project and not Lampard project.

Spending 70m on Kepa was a mistake by the club. If we ended up with Alisson, it wouldnt be. Even if he was a GK. He was way more proven and looked class, backed up with stats and club results. 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

2 hours ago, Muzchap said:

Wish Havertz would sign so we talk about something else other than keepers 🤔

 

If we dont sign a new GK, we will be talking about keepers the entire season mate.

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Buying players that fit just one manager is terrible too. Which is what I said plenty times. What if manager leaves? Then you have a bunch of players not fitting anymore (Jorgi?) 

What if Lamps is fired or whatever? I hope Chilwell was bought as a part of Chelsea project and not Lampard project.

Are we really doing this again?

What if the technical director/director of football buys Player A and the manager doesn't want him? We got De Bruyne all those years ago under Emenalo and Mourinho decided he was done with him after like 5 games. The key thing is the manager and board need to work together to identify targets for the best of the club rather than one figure trying to impose themselves over the other. That is how Klopp and Guardiola have been able to operate and get the players they want at Liverpool and Man City respectively. They didn't just have the players thrown onto them to manage.

Unless we go hire a manager who primarily plays with a back 3 in the future, am not worried about whether the likes of Chilwell will fit in. He's not a system player like Jorginho. It's funny how you only mentioned Chilwell when Lampard was also the one who asked and got Ziyech, Werner and likely soon Havertz. Not worried about them being system players then? 

[coolhead23 1,146]

4 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Buying players that fit just one manager is terrible too. Which is what I said plenty times. What if manager leaves? Then you have a bunch of players not fitting anymore (Jorgi?) 

What if Lamps is fired or whatever? I hope Chilwell was bought as a part of Chelsea project and not Lampard project.

Spending 70m on Kepa was a mistake by the club. If we ended up with Alisson, it wouldnt be. Even if he was a GK. He was way more proven and looked class, backed up with stats and club results. 

Agree that it is always risky to have it under one manager. 

However this time around what I like is the profile of players which are getting ... most of the players which we getting are capable of playing mulitple roles/positions and are young which means that even if the current manager is fired the next one coming in can still use the players. 

 

[Artandur 939]

 

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

2 hours ago, coolhead23 said:

3 minutes ago, Artandur said:

 

So amazing how Marina milked them. 28 yo final year of contract and still one of the most expensive deals in football history. Real needed to give their fans a galactico big time and we exploited that ruthlessly

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

 

7 yrs of top performances and left us with 130m, Eden is absolutely a Chelsea legend!

[Tomo 21,733]

10 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Reading first couple of pages on this thread makes me realize how amazing our transfer window has been. The board did more than anyone expected. The only problem is what Kepa become in the last 12 months but we will address that too.

Certainly puts the angst over our rivals signing the likes of Bergwijn, Gedson, Ighalo and even Bruno into perspective

[Jase 43,479]

10 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Reading first couple of pages on this thread makes me realize how amazing our transfer window has been. The board did more than anyone expected. The only problem is what Kepa become in the last 12 months but we will address that too.

It's not news at this point but from a football perspective, we have really benefited greatly from the pandemic because we have been able to sign 2 players that we otherwise would not have been able to in normal circumstances - Werner and Havertz.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

So amazing how Marina milked them. 28 yo final year of contract and still one of the most expensive deals in football history. Real needed to give their fans a galactico big time and we exploited that ruthlessly

Yet people still insult her?? Should be kissing her feet

[King Kai 49]

1 hour ago, ulsterchelsea said:

Yet people still insult her?? Should be kissing her feet

Id do that and more, shes stunningly beautiful.  

[1chelsea 864]

Id do that and "more", shes stunningly beautiful.  

I see what you did there[emoji12]

[milka 3,357]

Eden Hazard - £143m

Alvaro Morata - £48.5m

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Total: £191.5m

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Timo Werner - £47m

Hakim Ziyech - £36m

Kai Havertz - £62m

Ben Chilwell - £50m

Thiago Silva - Free

Malang Sarr - Free

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Total: £195m