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2 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Based on recent games, I'd say Neto is. Madueke has been shoved to the left & looks lost most of the time. I think the supposed "dislike" is more frustration and his limited skill set. 

I think frustration with Madueke is largely down to his attitude and selfishness. He has basically one move which is put his head down, cut inside and whip away a shot - 1 move he clearly practices over and over. He's surprisingly not THAT good at it for someone who clearly does nothing else and just practices this one thing over and over. That sort of bloody mindedness could pay off one day and he could become a very good player, but it seems like he's years away from it if he ever gets there.

Incidents like him (and NJ) fighting over the penalty that was clearly Cole's to take, just goes to show the character along with this sort of selfish and one dimensional approach to the game in which he at all times is the main character. Ronaldo vibes without Ronaldo results (yet).

I think he's a hard guy to like from that perspective but I do see the vision for project Madueke and I could imagine us at some point regretting selling him if he just spends years grinding at the cut inside and finish move like he has been, it also took Mo Salah ages to put it all together to become the player he is now and not impossible Noni could take a big step forward later too - but we are not in a position to just sit on unlimited players forever, those who do not thrive within a few years have to be moved on here, whether we regret it later or not. Our whole business model relies on us moving on players like Madueke regularly.

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4 hours ago, Mhsc said:

I think frustration with Madueke is largely down to his attitude and selfishness. He has basically one move which is put his head down, cut inside and whip away a shot - 1 move he clearly practices over and over. He's surprisingly not THAT good at it for someone who clearly does nothing else and just practices this one thing over and over. That sort of bloody mindedness could pay off one day and he could become a very good player, but it seems like he's years away from it if he ever gets there.

Incidents like him (and NJ) fighting over the penalty that was clearly Cole's to take, just goes to show the character along with this sort of selfish and one dimensional approach to the game in which he at all times is the main character. Ronaldo vibes without Ronaldo results (yet).

I think he's a hard guy to like from that perspective but I do see the vision for project Madueke and I could imagine us at some point regretting selling him if he just spends years grinding at the cut inside and finish move like he has been, it also took Mo Salah ages to put it all together to become the player he is now and not impossible Noni could take a big step forward later too - but we are not in a position to just sit on unlimited players forever, those who do not thrive within a few years have to be moved on here, whether we regret it later or not. Our whole business model relies on us moving on players like Madueke regularly.

Sorry to be blunt, but I hate the Salah comparison at times. He had major European performances prior to making the move (scored the winner against us in Switzerland) and took Basel to the EL semis, starring along the way before losing to us, the eventual champions. Long story short, Salah did more during his time at Basel than Madueke has done in his career so far. 

I was actually a fan of Madueke & Mudryk before they joined, having seen glimpses during CL matches, and was rather excited when they joined. It's just come to the point where I don't believe either player (Mudryk's career could be completely destroyed, tbh) has what it takes to go to that next level for a host of reasons. As you said, if we are to move to the next level, which is fighting for the top honours, we can't keep saying, "wait another season," where any player is concerned. Jackson really should be in this conversation as well.

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44 minutes ago, Nero said:

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we need to bring in more Brazilians. They are always bangers for us

not always

Ângelo Gabriel
Alexandre Pato
Nathan
Kennedy
Filipe Luis
Wallace Oliveira 
Lucas Piazón 
Mineiro
Alcides
Emerson Thome (1999-2000)

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8 hours ago, Vesper said:

not always

Ângelo Gabriel
Alexandre Pato
Nathan
Kennedy
Filipe Luis
Wallace Oliveira 
Lucas Piazón 
Mineiro
Alcides
Emerson Thome (1999-2000)

Half of those players were like unknown. 

Thiago Silva, David Luiz, Ramires, Willian, Oscar, Alex were all solid during their time here. 

Hopefully Estavao & Pedro join that list in the next few seasons.   Santos also looks a talent but whether he'll be happy with backup minutes....

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Arsenal

  • Eberechi Eze to Arsenal is edging closer as the Gunners and Crystal Palace are moving towards an agreement over the structure of the £45m+ package. (Mark Brus, CaughtOffside)

  • Arsenal have completed the signing of Christian Norgaard from Brentford. A fee has been agreed, while the player’s personal terms and medical have been done and it should be announced this week. (David Ornstein)

  • Former Manchester United and PSG defender Gabriel Heinze has been officially confirmed as a new member of Mikel Arteta’s coaching staff. (Arsenal.com)

  • Valencia are unhappy with Arsenal as it looks like a deal to sign Cristhian Mosquera has now completely stalled. (Mirror)

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18 hours ago, Duppy Conqueror said:

Hope we turn them down and they take Gusto instead.Gusto is a lost cause for me with way Maresca uses the fullbacks.but is a quality traditional RB and there he can shine again then either comes back to us if Maresca era ends or can be sold for better fee than he would by another season playing in the role he badly struggles. One which Acheampong is already better at.

At CWC Maresca begins using FBs in more traditional way. 

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Outgoings/Interest update:
Ðorđe Petrović: Bournemouth have persuaded him as the Strasbourg option is off the table. Sunderland will rue quibbling over the pricetag. Should get done.
Axel Disasi: Villarreal and Newcastle have both held talks. Villarreal are proposed a loan with an obligation, CFC did not immediately say no but did ask about a purchase. He is well regarded.
Ben Chilwell: Has talked to some clubs in Italy this week. Outside chance he ends up at Brentford.
Renato Veiga: Bayern will bid once Kim Min-Jae leaves. Juventus will also look to an offer IF they can move on several higher value players. Wildcard interest from Como FC.
Noni Madueke: Arsenal are preparing a first offer c. £40m+add ons. CFC will push for £45-50m guaranteed with add-ons. The feeling at CFC is Madueke would like the move and so CFC will not block it.
Alfie Gilchrist: Will be a top target for Marti Cifuentes if he takes over at Leicester.
Filip Jørgensen: Chelsea fielded another enquiry for the keeper and if they bring in another keeper, he will be available.
João Félix: Talks with Benfica scheduled for this weekend. CFC want a sale.
Armando Broja: Talking to several clubs in Germany still. His fitness is a concern and a few clubs have asked for loans with options. CFC not against a loan structure if an obligation is included.
Nicolas Jackson: Aston Villa have made him top target if Ollie Watkins does leave. He was also on Bournemouth's list if Semenyo left. Wildcard move to Atletico if they moved on Griezmann. Also an option for Fiorentina if Kean's clause is paid (currently unlikely).
Marc Cucurella: A very speculative enquiry on behalf of Barcelona was rebuffed.
Lesley Ugochukwu: Everton and Brentford are both seeking talks.
Jimmy Jay-Morgan: A scout has recommended him to Peterborough.
Mathis Amougou: Strasbourg are looking at an option to buy the player to replace Habib Diarra.
Zak Sturge: Joining Millwall.
Alex Matos: Oxford United and Sheffield United would both like to sign him. CFC would like a buyback and/or a high sell-on.
David Datro Fofana: Some second division Saudi interest. Also wanted by Genk.
Carney Chukwuemeka: CFC have told Dortmund they will look to a sale or a loan with obligation before considering other loan terms. May be a tricky sale as player very much wants Dortmund.
Deivid Washington: Botafogo are keen to end his loan and buy him.
Aarón Anselmimo: Marseille enquired about a loan. CFC want to ensure he will play if he does go on loan.
Gaga Slonina: League 1 clubs have asked about another loan. CFC are considering keeping him as 3rd choice cover. 
Sam Rak-Sakyi: Frank Lampard would like Coventry to buy the player. This may well happen
Kiano Dyer: A lot of clubs across Europe would like to sign Dyer who feels his opportunity at Chelsea will not come. Likely to leave and will be a big loss.

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