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16 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Caicedo might still flop easily and we will be stuck with him for 8 years. 

I think it's quite obvious this deal gone too far, especially given he was the plan B, but neither of plans a, b or c were very impressive and we seemed to have no other backup idea. Him and Enzo may turn out very good quality players, but they would have to become the hall of fame level for those pricetag to be justifiable with "it was worth it".

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7 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

I think it's quite obvious this deal gone too far, especially given he was the plan B, but neither of plans a, b or c were very impressive and we seemed to have no other backup idea. Him and Enzo may turn out very good quality players, but they would have to become the hall of fame level for those pricetag to be justifiable with "it was worth it".

How was he plan B? The very first thing we heard this summer was that we want Ugarte+Caicedo, and we ended up with Lavia+Caicedo

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2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Are we done this window now? I think we are personally 

I think incomings are done after Palmer gets announced but still lots to do with outgoings.

Lukaku seems done already but Cucurella, CHO, Sarr, Chalobah need some moves sorted out plus some loans for the youngsters (Washington, Burstow etc.)

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1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

I don't see him flopping.   There's a reason why Arsenal wanted him badly the previous window and then Liverpool tried to hijack our deal.  

I've seen sources say it's 125k base per week....which is reasonable for a young midfielder of his quality. 

Just remember that our negotiating position is bad as every good agent out there will know that we offered Cucurella 175k a week, Kepa 150k a week, Lakaka over 300k a week and even CHO's contract was supposedly up to 180k a week. 

So far Caicedo has shown potential not quality. One good season does not make a word class player. If the contract is incentives based, fair enough but still. I was always against this signing on these terms. Even if he becomes a solid player like Ramires or Mikel he would still be a flop for  the money paid. 
You can only get of this viscous wages circle when you sell the overpaid freeloaders (which we are doing) and refuse to hand out those contracts again, which we still struggle with. 

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If we refuse to pay high wages outright we are doomed. Not giving money away for the sake of it ala United I understand, but when a player shines we need to pay in order to be in the conversation for the next big thing. At the end of the day football employs people and they will always strive to be better paid.  

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10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

So far Caicedo has shown potential not quality. One good season does not make a word class player. If the contract is incentives based, fair enough but still. I was always against this signing on these terms. Even if he becomes a solid player like Ramires or Mikel he would still be a flop for  the money paid. 
You can only get of this viscous wages circle when you sell the overpaid freeloaders (which we are doing) and refuse to hand out those contracts again, which we still struggle with. 

He'll just join the list then alongside Cucurella, Mudryk, Lakaka, Havertz, Kepa as big money transfers that went wrong...wouldn't be surprised if we're adding Fofana to that list in the future as he'll have his fair share of injury issues. 

I'm personally not a fan of calling a player a flop unless they've proven that they can't make an impact.  Caicedo was always going to cost in the 90 million range at the bare minimum and when Brighton realised that Arsenal were stupid enough to pay >100 million for Mr. Rice, they were on a mission to milk out as much money as possible for their midfielder.  

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