TheHulk 2,482 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, mkh said: Mitoma is liked internally at Chelsea. (@JacobsBen) Another injury prone washed up one season wonder from Brighton? Yeah let's get him, owners probably want to extend some shirt sales in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 11 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Wait? To further slander Clearlake? Why wait to the end of the window, their level of signings this window alone are arguably some of the most questionable of the lot so far. And that says a lot when you look at some of the guys like Mudryk, Sanchez, Disasi, Ugochuwku, Washington etc. How many more years of mediocrity do you want to let them get away with 😂 I like the signings we’ve made so far 🤷♂️ Just like I’m really glad we’ve got Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Gusto, Palmer, and the future potential stars like Paez and Estevão. Again, for me Clearlake have been very mixed. Lots of unfortunate duds like the ones you named (plus Koulibaly & Sterling) but plenty to be optimistic about, too. Personally, I’d much rather act the way our club have in the window than what a club like United are doing where they drag their feet for ages and have their fanbase protesting the ownership nonstop. At least we’re trying to “go big” and take some chances even if every one hasn’t worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Pizy said: I like the signings we’ve made so far 🤷♂️ Just like I’m really glad we’ve got Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Gusto, Palmer, and the future potential stars like Paez and Estevão. Again, for me Clearlake have been very mixed. Lots of unfortunate duds like the ones you named (plus Koulibaly & Sterling) but plenty to be optimistic about, too. Personally, I’d much rather act the way our club have in the window than what a club like United are doing where they drag their feet for ages and have their fanbase protesting the ownership nonstop. At least we’re trying to “go big” and take some chances even if every one hasn’t worked. Yea funnily you’ve mentioned United. We’ve basically done what United did after Sir Alex retired, by spending over £1bn on player transfers. Only in a much shorter time. If you’re happy with that because we’ve tried to “go big” then I don’t know, it is just not the sort of mindset I can get onboard with. You can’t just throw money at something and hope it sticks. You need more than that - ultimately personnel with knowledge of what you need to do to run an elite football club from top to bottom in all different aspects. In the past 2 years I would argue we have literally got next to fuck all of that. Now we are also reportedly trying to be more efficient in the market so that shows how much faith and sense of accomplishment the owners and footballing people feel about their £1bn+ splurge. They’re revisiting their strategy after what 1 year because of PSR/FFP? Or because it hasn’t necessarily improved things? Ok they’ve signed a handful of good players but 6 or 7 out of the 25-30 odd players isn’t a good record at all. Its laughable. And even some of the players, the fees involved for Fernandez and Caicedo and then Mudryk, who is awful, is incredibly laughable given what they’ve done. Folk can’t keep making such poor excuses for them. It was even more funny because they made digs about the previous regime and how their model was unsustainable in many aspects. Yet we are having to sell off academy players for pure profit to get round PSR/FFP and have had 5 or 6 different coaches in 2 and a half years. Typical. Edited July 4, 2024 by OneMoSalah Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Yea funnily you’ve mentioned United. We’ve basically done what United did after Sir Alex retired, by spending over £1bn on player transfers. Only in a much shorter time. If you’re happy with that because we’ve tried to “go big” then I don’t know, it is just not the sort of mindset I can get onboard with. You can’t just throw money at something and hope it sticks. You need more than that - ultimately personnel with knowledge of what you need to do to run an elite football club from top to bottom in all different aspects. In the past 2 years I would argue we have literally got next to fuck all of that. Now we are also reportedly trying to be more efficient in the market so that shows how much faith and sense of accomplishment the owners and footballing people feel about their £1bn+ splurge. They’re revisiting their strategy after what 1 year because of PSR/FFP? Or because it hasn’t necessarily improved things? Ok they’ve signed a handful of good players but 6 or 7 out of the 25-30 odd players isn’t a good record at all. Its laughable. And even some of the players, the fees involved for Fernandez and Caicedo and then Mudryk, who is awful, is incredibly laughable given what they’ve done. Folk can’t keep making such poor excuses for them. It was even more funny because they made digs about the previous regime and how their model was unsustainable in many aspects. Yet we are having to sell off academy players for pure profit to get round PSR/FFP and have had 5 or 6 different coaches in 2 and a half years. Typical. If we have another horrific season then I’ll stop defending them. But I am still willing to give them this last chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Do not know this source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 36 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Do not know this source? Whenever Ornstein, Fabrizio, or Law don’t all tweet out something confirming it I think it’s safe to assume it’s bullshit. And this dude’s name looks familiar as a bullshitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 1 hour ago, mkh said: Mitoma is liked internally at Chelsea. (@JacobsBen) hard pass mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 we have not even submitted a bid for Calafiori, wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: we have not even submitted a bid for Calafiori, wtf If they did not get favorable feedback from his people, I doubt we put in a bid. OhForAGreavsie and Strike 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: we have not even submitted a bid for Calafiori, wtf Arse were clearly in discussions directly with him first and have convinced him. Doubt it’s worth bothering now that he is convinced about going there. Unless we double their wage offer I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Lost Olise first and now Calafiori. Two very exciting players. Top GK like Costa or Mama, Williams and David could turn this window into something positive but it looks like no one is coming here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Neil Bath's statement on leaving Chelsea: "After 30 years working at Chelsea, I feel it is the right time for me to have some time off and take a break from a job that I have put so much time into. I intend to rest and have some time away from the game, however I will continue working over the coming weeks to ensure a smooth transition for the organisation." "As an Academy, we have enjoyed fantastic backing from the Club throughout my time here, without which none of our success would have been possible." "I would like to thank every single person - player, parent, colleague, supporter - who has been on this journey with us. We achieved everything we could possibly have dreamed of - five Youth Cups in a row, countless debuts, homegrown players helping the team win the Champions League - and we did it together." "In particular, I have to mention Jim Fraser, who has assisted me for the past 20 years and played such an important role in everything we have achieved." "As a boy from Battersea who grew up on the Shed watching our teams of the 80s, it has been my greatest privilege playing a part in the club's success over the past two decades. I have made memories and friends that will last a lifetime. I hope we have made people proud and left the club in a better place to move forward." ChelseaFC Norfolkblue1961, Blue Armour, bluesman2610 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,482 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 19 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Lost Olise first and now Calafiori. Two very exciting players. Top GK like Costa or Mama, Williams and David could turn this window into something positive but it looks like no one is coming here. We're midtable. Can't wait for these owners to sell the club. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 31 minutes ago, TheHulk said: We're midtable. Can't wait for these owners to sell the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 29 minutes ago, TheHulk said: We're midtable. Can't wait for these owners to sell the club. We are a top 6 club and we finished in the top 6, getting top 4 isn't as easy as it once was, throw in the fact new ownerships a complete overhaul of the club and players staff etc really isn't as bad as some make it out to be. Norfolkblue1961 and SinineUltra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 We finished just a few points behind a Villa side who had one of their best ever PL seasons despite us being dogshit for most of the year. Tottenham apparently had this awesome, praiseworthy season yet they had to desperately hang on until the final day to stay in front of us. Just the returning injured players alone should improve us considerably, never mind the new players being brought in. Some of our supporters are acting like we are a million miles away from….Villa and Spuds? Really? We will 100% be in the mix for a UCL place. Some of you think that since we aren’t signing 4 superstars this summer we should disband the club. 🙄 bluesman2610, Strike, OhForAGreavsie and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, Pizy said: We finished just a few points behind a Villa side who had one of their best ever PL seasons despite us being dogshit for most of the year. Tottenham apparently had this awesome, praiseworthy season yet they had to desperately hang on until the final day to stay in front of us. Just the returning injured players alone should improve us considerably, never mind the new players being brought in. Some of our supporters are acting like we are a million miles away from….Villa and Spuds? Really? We will 100% be in the mix for a UCL place. Some of you think that since we aren’t signing 4 superstars this summer we should disband the club. 🙄 Without research which takes forever haha, do you know who Romans last 10 signings were? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 5 minutes ago, Pizy said: We finished just a few points behind a Villa side who had one of their best ever PL seasons despite us being dogshit for most of the year. Tottenham apparently had this awesome, praiseworthy season yet they had to desperately hang on until the final day to stay in front of us. Just the returning injured players alone should improve us considerably, never mind the new players being brought in. Some of our supporters are acting like we are a million miles away from….Villa and Spuds? Really? We will 100% be in the mix for a UCL place. Some of you think that since we aren’t signing 4 superstars this summer we should disband the club. 🙄 The biggest issue is we're back into unknown territory again. Whatever people think of Poch, and whether he should have been given this season, we're changing managers and someone who sounds like they'll play very much in a different way and style to Poch. It should be noted that Pep struggled in his first season with City and barely scraped them into the top 4 in what was arguably a weaker league at the time and having inherited a squad that included the likes of Kompany, Yaya Toure, David Silva, De Bruyne and Aguero. If the club want to go down this route of trying to implement a long term style and imprint into the club then fine, I've no problem with that. It could lead to a longer term sustained level which we were unable to do in the second half of Roman's tenure at the club. However, in these situations, it is usually taking a couple of steps back before being able to move forwards, and that's with more experienced managers and groups of players than we have. Really this is something we should have implemented last summer with a chosen manager and plan so we'd now be sitting a year into such a project. Having a placeholder year potentially ends up pushing us back further. Are the ownership going to really "tough it out" because over the last 2 seasons it's become more and more clear that they're not. I really want Maresca to do well, and I actually think with the right backing he could well prove to be a promising manager from this next crop coming through. But his style of play and philosophy usually lends to needing time and patience to implement and bear fruit. There's no evidence of him getting this regardless how many years are placed on his contract. Does another season outside the top 4/Champions League places mean next summer we'll be having to sell a Reece James or Levi Colwill just to steer clear of PSR regulations from previous spending? Whilst I would agree that there are a number of players that have a lot of promise and potential and can really build on last season, in the same breath we are under increasing pressure to get back in amongst the top 4 spots and not get sucked into a prolonged period in the wilderness. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 3 hours ago, mkh said: Mitoma is liked internally at Chelsea. (@JacobsBen) Is there anyone at Brighton who isn't liked? We need a CF. Why not make a move for that youngster called Welbeck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 1 minute ago, LAM09 said: Is there anyone at Brighton who isn't liked? We need a CF. Why not make a move for that youngster called Welbeck. Genuinely surprised we haven’t been linked with Vardy on a 1 year deal or something 🤣🤣🤣 LAM09 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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