shrenshah 186 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 games 5 goals 5 points Meanwhile vlahovic on 5 ga for the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Different team same result, frustrating.. only difference maybe, this team still has some progression in it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hamilton said: Different team same result, frustrating.. only difference maybe, this team still has some progression in it.. It had better have 😂 There is no way we spent £1bn on a team for purely long term progression though - there has to be some short term and medium term progress. Vesper and bigbluewillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,370 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 18/06/2023 at 21:36, NikkiCFC said: My concern is where are goals coming from? This is our biggest concern last couple of years but I really think next season it could be even worse. I mean, everything suggest this is going to happen. Season 20/21 our top 10 goalscorers: Werner 12 Abraham 12 Giroud 11 Mount 9 Havertz 9 Jorginho 8 Ziyech 6 Pulisic 6 Zouma and CHO 5 all will be gone. Season 21/22: Lukaku 15, Havertz 14, Mount 13, Werner 11, Jorginho 9, Ziyech 8, Pulisic 8. Again all top7 scorers gone. And it is interesting how we always sell our best goalscorers. This season it was Havertz with just 9. Yes, non of them was very good we all know that but what is left for next season? Jackson, Broja, Fofana - 3 unproven youngsters. Madueke and Mudryk showed nothing yet that they can be reliable and Sterling is on decline last couple of years. I dont see double digits player there. This is our strikers and wingers. Nkunku is big hope but even if he performs well it will not be enough for sure. We are pretty much betting on a lot of unproven kids. Who saw this coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,278 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Who saw this coming... we have the best scoring combi AMF/SS on the planet over the past 2 years but he is fucked with injuries so many of our players are fucked with injuries its a potential multiseason-shattering epidemic plus insanely expensive and injurious to FFP as we have to eat massive perma damaged buys and replace them Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,278 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) The only names I want to see as main targets (if we are going after these positions. some of which are VITAL) I am listing almost no youth/inexperienced players GK Diogo Costa Jan Oblak Left Footed CB Right Footed CB António Silva Bremer Jean-Clair Todibo Mohamed Simakan LB Alphonso Davies Nuno Mendes RB? Achraf Hakimi (only IF Reece leaves for RM) DMF? (doubtful we make a move for one, other than the 17yo, soon 18yo Gabriel Moscardo ) Aurélien Tchouaméni CMF AMF Jamal Musiala Florian Wirtz Lucas Paquetá Xavi Simons Winger Kylian Mbappé (LOLOLOL) Vinicius Junior (only way this EVER could ('could' meaning 2 or 3% chance) work is Real Madrid get Mbappe as LW (Mcappe hates CF and RW, same as Vini does) and we use Reece as partial payment to RM for Vini, BUT Vini likely would say fuck no to us) Rodrygo (also a pipe dream) Rafael Leão Khvicha Kvaratskhelia SS CF Victor Osimhen Lautaro Martínez Dusan Vlahovic Jonathan David Ivan Toney (£70m is too much IMHO) Evan Ferguson (I want to see his full season play) Edited September 22, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,278 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Chelsea leading the race to sign Gabriel Moscardo https://football-talk.co.uk/192270/Chelsea-leading-the-race-to-sign-gabriel-moscardo/ According to Brazilian journalist Jorge Nicola, Chelsea are the only club that have made an approach to sign Corinthians wonderkid Gabriel Moscardo The London giants recently made a £21.5 million bid to sign the Brazilian teenager, but it was not sufficient to convince Corinthians. The Serie A outfit are looking for a higher fee for their prized asset, but there are currently no offers from other European clubs, as per Nicola. Barcelona have been linked with the youngster in recent weeks, but Nicola has clarified that is only speculation through the media. As a result, Chelsea are still leading the race to sign Moscardo, who is anticipated to leave Corinthians in January. He will turn 18 later this month. Moscardo made his first-team debut for Corinthians earlier this summer and he has already made a huge impression. The teenager is a defensive midfielder and he has caught the eye with his tackling, ball recoveries and ability to win ground and aerial duels. He also likes to dribble. Chelsea currently have several exciting young midfielders in the squad in Enzo Fernandez, Moises Caicedo, Romeo Lavia and Lesley Ugochukwu, but they could be looking into the long-term with Moscardo. He is only 17 and has the potential to become an elite midfielder. The Blues could make a fresh approach for him ahead of the New Year, and we won’t be surprised if Corinthians are tempted to sell. With the huge talent already in the first-team squad, Chelsea are more likely to send Moscardo on loan for him to continue his development. Manchester City have also been credited with an interest in the wonderkid, but they are looking to sign him for their sister club Bahia. Mauricio Pochettino’s side currently don’t face any realistic competition for Moscardo, but they can’t take it for granted and must move quickly to seal a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,278 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Chelsea Target Antonio Nusa Shines As Super Sub For Club Brugge In 6-Goal Thriller https://sportinglife.ng/Chelsea-target-nusa-shines-as-super-sub-for-club-brugge-in-6-goal-thriller/ Real Madrid and Chelsea target Antonio Nusa came off the bench to help Club Brugge win 4-2 against Charleroi in continuation of the Belgian Jupiler Pro League. Nusa scored and also provided an assist against a resolute Charleroi with another sub, Ferran Jutgla, also getting a goal against the visitors. Eighteen-year-old winger Nusa, whose father is Nigerian, has now scored two goals and delivered two assists this season. Coach Ronny Deila praised his subs for saving the day for Club Brugge. “It was a tough day, but it was important to get the win,” admitted Deila. “We have a bench that can make the difference and today the substitutes did it. “I am very satisfied with that.” Club Brugge thus climbed to the top of the standings with 13 points from six matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 This Nusa looks Ten times better than Mudryk and of course he turned us down. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) Ffs what is with the constant links again to kids. The window just shut and we are linked to some Brazilian kid. We will be the most expensive version of Shakhtar/Ajax/Leipzig in footballing history at this rate. Absolutely pathetic strategy. Even Nusa. Fuck me. 3 transfer windows, £1bn & gone so far backwards it’s laughable. If the plan is going to be more u21s as opposed to some more ready made dependable players, we should sack those 2 co sporting directors before its far too late. Edited September 18, 2023 by OneMoSalah Reddish-Blue and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,515 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 39 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Ffs what is with the constant links again to kids. The window just shut and we are linked to some Brazilian kid. We will be the most expensive version of Shakhtar/Ajax/Leipzig in footballing history at this rate. Absolutely pathetic strategy. Even Nusa. Fuck me. 3 transfer windows, £1bn & gone so far backwards it’s laughable. If the plan is going to be more u21s as opposed to some more ready made dependable players, we should sack those 2 co sporting directors before its far too late. I do wonder how this sporting director setup actually works. Surely there is someone in that group with previous experience at a top club who would push for experienced players (i.e. players in that 25-28 age group) to be signed to help these youngsters. OneMoSalah and Stats 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Vesper said: The only names I want to see as main targets (if we are going after these positions. some of which are VITAL) I am listing almost no youth/inexperienced players GK Diogo Costa Jan Oblak Left Footed CB Right Footed CB António Silva Bremer Jean-Clair Todibo Mohamed Simakan ' LB Alphonso Davies Nuno Mendes RB? Achraf Hakimi (only IF Reece leaves for RM) DMF? (doubtful we make a move for one, other than the 17yo, soon 18yo Gabriel Moscardo ) Aurélien Tchouaméni CMF AMF Jamal Musiala Florian Wirtz Lucas Paquetá Xavi Simons Winger Kylian Mbappé (LOLOLOL) Vinicius Junior (only way this EVER could ('could' meaning 2 or 3% chance) work is Real Madrid get Mbappe as LW (Mcappe hates CF and RW, same as Vini does) and we use Reece as partial payment to RM for Vini, BUT Vini likely would say fuck no to us) Rodrygo (also a pipe dream) Rafael Leão Khvicha Kvaratskhelia SS CF Victor Osimhen Lautaro Martínez Dusan Vlahovic Jonathan David Ivan Toney (£70m is too much IMHO) Evan Ferguson (I want to see his full season play) Antonio Silva isn’t young/inexperienced although he has less than 60 club games to his career to date? Then Xavi Simons again who has 1 full season of first team football? In Holland? Even Wirtz is debatable, and after the Havertz signing, would avoid him. Muisala is the real deal but will never ever happen anytime soon. Our next few key signings needs to be guys with 150-200 games in the tank. Easy. 2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: I do wonder how this sporting director setup actually works. Surely there is someone in that group with previous experience at a top club who would push for experienced players (i.e. players in that 25-28 age group) to be signed to help these youngsters. You’d hope so but bringing in these pair who are predominantly used to working for development clubs such as Brighton & Monaco, I don’t think that will fit their remit. The manager needs to have an input though - was Poch strong enough to say no to the likes of Lavia or Palmer, who were 100% more club driven signings and request we pursued more proven players just passed and at CF? No he wasn’t. So I am hoping he will be a bit kore insistent come the next windows as Palmer and Lavia whilst may be good long term, weren’t urgent needs, more so when you consider we sold/let go of better players in their positions. Edited September 18, 2023 by OneMoSalah Reddish-Blue and Stats 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,515 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Antonio Silva isn’t young/inexperienced although he has less than 60 club games to his career to date? Then Xavi Simons again who has 1 full season of first team football? In Holland? Even Wirtz is debatable, and after the Havertz signing, would avoid him. Muisala is the real deal but will never ever happen anytime soon. Our next few key signings needs to be guys with 150-200 games in the tank. Easy. You’d hope so but bringing in these pair who are predominantly used to working for development clubs such as Brighton & Monaco, I don’t think that will fit their remit. The manager needs to have an input though - was Poch strong enough to say no to the likes of Lavia or Palmer, who were 100% more club driven signings and request we pursued more proven players just passed and at CF? No he wasn’t. So I am hoping he will be a bit kore insistent come the next windows as Palmer and Lavia whilst may be good long term, weren’t urgent needs, more so when you consider we sold/let go of better players in their positions. For me personally I just don't get where the Palmer signing came from on like the last day of the transfer window...surely the priority would have been to get that experienced attacker to come in and play alongside Sterling/Jackson/whoever else we plan on throwing up front until Nkunku recovers. It's just a shame that with all this investment we seemed to jump after all the wonderkids hoping they pan out rather than going after players with 2-3 seasons of football in them. If the directors made signings like Gabriel, Washington, Ugo among others at their previous clubs they'd be absolutely delighted at getting top young talent through the door as they'd be able to develop and essentially flip the asset for a massive profit in 2+ seasons time but that doesn't really work for Chelsea unless our model has changed from going after titles to being a talent id factory. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,395 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 James Madison was available, but we said no, he's too old for our new project, let's get some Brazilian kids for our Multiclub project and Cole Palmer instead. We have Chalobah nahh let's freeze him if he won't leave and get Disasi. Cucurella frozen , get rid of Hall , Colwill LB , Chilwell winger . This club is chaos . whats happening 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,278 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Antonio Silva he is the best CB available already IMHO, despite his young age, and is right -footed he is likely going to be a world class star he gives me Tchou vibes I did also list some other right footed CB options as well, older and more experienced, but Silva is going to be special I reckon As I have extensively shown,, in great depth, there is thus myth that there are all these great experienced older (over 26) players out there for the taking who are actually available and good enough to drop big money on it is bullshit to be blunt one of the very few happens to be the exact same position as Silva (Skriniar) we could have had him on the cheap (and earlier we could have had him for around the same as we dumped on the likely permaonjured Fofana. who I said hell no to) and fucked it off my track record for players I say buy buy buy over the past few years is far more hits than misses, and many of them are big hits all of these were targets/major wants in most cases of mine before they blew up or when we could have swooped for them as a major buy (Skriniar is a perfect example of the latter) Jude Bellingham Victor Osimhen Jamal Musiala (was so unhappy when he left us) Rafael Leão Eduardo Camavinga Florian Wirtz (I was the first one here to mention him, over 3 years ago) Aurélien Tchouaméni Josko Gvardiol Nicolò Barella Bruno Guimarães Ronald Araújo Nuno Mendes Achraf Hakimi Theo Hernández Alessandro Bastoni Dominik Szoboszlai Sandro Tonali Moussa Diaby Milan Skriniar António Silva Lucas Paquetá Bremer Nico Schlotterbeck Federico Chiesa (from Fiorentina days) Jan Oblak (for ages) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,278 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Chelsea https://thedailybriefing.io/i/137138156/Chelsea Chelsea had a busy summer and there were even more players they nearly signed! Chelsea remain on just six wins in all competitions in 2023 following yesterday’s 0-0 draw away to Bournemouth. Mauricio Pochettino: “The fans are disappointed because of the situation but I am not worried about that. I say that because we really know what we are doing — we deserved to win.” Pochettino on Moises Caicedo not featuring yesterday: “Caicedo arrived back with a knock in his knee. We need to assess him in the next few days but he wasn’t available for today, that’s why he not here.” Pochettino on other players not selected: “So, Cucurella was not available due to fever. He was ill. Noni Madueke came from the national team with a muscle problem.” Pochettino on Mykhaylo Mudryk: “He is improving. He still needs to learn, he needs time. Mudryk needs to understand the game better — and try to be more connected sometimes with the team. We need to give the time and tools for him to improve.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,278 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Chelsea and the deals that nearly happened https://thedailybriefing.io/i/137138217/Chelsea-and-the-deals-that-nearly-happened We know it was a very busy summer for Chelsea, with a number of young players coming in for the long-term project. We know it will take time for the club and for Mauricio Pochettino to build a squad and to have the results they want. On top of that, many players were offered to Chelsea this summer. It is absolutely normal for clubs to offer players to other clubs, or for this to be done via agents and intermediaries. Many deals were proposed to Chelsea in terms of ins and outs, for example - Marcelo Brozovic was one player offered to the Blues before he moved to Al Nassr. There were some conversations between Chelsea and Inter for Andre Onana, before he went to Manchester United, as he was one of the players discussed as part of a possible deal for Kalidou Koulibaly. In the end, Chelsea decided not to proceed, and both Brozovic and Koulibaly ended up making moves to Saudi Arabia. Marco Verratti was also a possibility for Chelsea - he was discussed with many clubs around Europe, but because of his salary and because PSG wanted really important money, something close to €45m, Chelsea decided to go for a different kind of midfielder, both in terms of skills and in terms of age - they preferred to go for Moises Caicedo and Romeo Lavia, while they also had Enzo Fernandez. We also know that Dusan Vlahovic was offered to Chelsea in the month of July and Chelsea said no, but then in August Chelsea decided to think again about that in a swap deal for Romelu Lukaku, but Chelsea decided against paying €40m plus Lukaku for Vlahovic. Mauricio Pochettino was also not entirely convinced about this deal, so not just the board but also the manager decided against this deal. Towards the end of the summer, AC Milan approached Chelsea over a potential loan deal with buy option for Armando Broja, but the decision from Chelsea was to keep the striker and to have him and Nicolas Jackson together in the squad in that position. We also know that Liverpool and Brighton wanted Levi Colwill. Liverpool were prepared to make an important proposal for Colwill in case they had a green light from Chelsea, but that was never a possibility because from day one of the transfer window Chelsea made it very clear that it was not possible to negotiate for the player, who was not for sale. And in the end he extended his contract at Stamford Bridge. Away from Chelsea, another deal that nearly happened this summer was Lucas Paqueta, who was targeted by Manchester City. Of course clubs are now waiting to see the end of the investigation story. Newcastle were also interested back in May, but then they never sent proposals as their focus was on Sandro Tonali. Manchester City always appreciated Paqueta but they invested money on Matheus Nunes, big money; so at the moment they’re not planning for that move in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,278 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) On 02/09/2023 at 00:13, mkh said: It was a pity that the following players could no longer be sold or loaned out. Cucurella, Chalobah, Washington, Sarr, Bergström, Cumming, Gilchrist, D.Williams, Tauriainen Alfie Gilchrist signs new Chelsea contract ahead of potential January exit Sheffield United were keen on move for 19-year-old this summer https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/alfie-gilchrist-Chelsea-fc-transfer-news-2023-b1107835.html Chelsea defender Alfie Gilchrist has extended his contract at Chelsea by a further year until June 2025. The 19-year-old was an unused substitute on Sunday as Chelsea drew 0-0 with Bournemouth at the Vitality Stadium. Mauricio Pochettino is well aware of his Blues Under-21s captain already having taken him on a pre-season tour of the United States. Gilchrist has yet to make his debut in an official senior match but played around 75 minutes under his new manager in warm up matches this summer. Chelsea have opted to tie down Gilchrist to a new contract having fielded interest from Sheffield United over a permanent transfer this summer. READ MORE Chelsea have long-term promise but not suited to deal with short-term demands Axel Disasi outlines what Chelsea are missing after forwards misfire again Chelsea injury update: Moises Caicedo, Noni Madueke, Reece James latest news and return dates Gilchrist also had loan interest and could look again at a temporary move in January when the transfer window opens. The central defender was signed from Queens Park Rangers at Under-11 level and comes from a family of Chelsea supporters. He was nominated for PL2 Player of the Year last season and was first named on the bench for the first team under Frank Lampard last season, at Old Trafford. Edited September 19, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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