Hashishi 148 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Keep Silva (as long as we can) Badiashile (the best signing this winter apart from maybe enzo) James Gusto Kovacic Zakaria (sign him if he keeps it up) Enzo (Thanks Eghbali!!!) Chukewuemeka Madueke Felix ( sign him if he keeps it up) Mudryk Nkunku Keep on thin ice (for one or two years MAX, if they don't improve then they need to be sold. Most of these will get some resale value, some can stay as squad players) Kepa (We have more pressing needs but he is too short) Chilwell/CuCu (one has to go for Maatsen in a couple of years) Fofana (if he doesn't recover to pre-injury levels Chalobah ( until we can sign someone to replace Silva at RCB) Kante (I say let go if he gets injured again this season) Mount ( He is better than Gallagher and can play more positions, which is better for a squad player) Sterling Havertz Broja (if he doesn't recover to pre-injury levels) Sell sell sell (as soon as possible, there is no reason for any of these players to be here as they have been or will be replaced) Mendy Azpi (keep for one more year if he really wants to stay) KK Ampadu ( hasn't lived up to potential) RLC (Can't believe he is still here. Hasn't lived up to potential) Gallagher (Keep only if Mount doesn't sign and is sold) Ziyech Pulisic CHO ( hasn't lived up to potential) Anjorin ( hasn't lived up to potential) Auba Lukaku Loan (some of these we can't loan because of the limit so they'll have to settle for carabao cup. I expect an exodus of youth in the next few years) Slonina Colwill Hall Maatsen Humphreys Casadei Santos Hutchinson Vale DDF cfccrost and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Pizy said: It’s going to take YEARS of appeals and lawsuits before anything comes of the City situation. From what I’ve seen a lot of these charges relate to their dodgy sponsorships over the years which have been blindingly obvious for a decade. It’s insane that for years City’s owners have been able to sponsor the club with companies they own or are connected with directly. Likewise PSG. I don’t think this has anything to do with their actual transfer spending so this isn’t something we as Chelsea supporters need to worry about. This is about accounting breaches I think. The idea that Man City, a club with nowhere NEAR the global following of the other Big 6, has the highest revenue in world football in a legitimate way is laughable. Their dodgy ass sponsorships drastically over inflate those figures. It does impact on their transfer spending since the amount they can spend while remaining within FFP is a function of their turnover. If their turnover has been artificially inflated, then this spending ceiling has also been inflated. Now, as to whether or not their actual spending might have breached FFP had their turnover been restricted, I don't know. The one is certainly linked with the other however. Edited February 6, 2023 by OhForAGreavsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hashishi said: Keep Silva (as long as we can) Badiashile (the best signing this winter apart from maybe enzo) James Gusto Kovacic Zakaria (sign him if he keeps it up) Enzo (Thanks Eghbali!!!) Chukewuemeka Madueke Felix ( sign him if he keeps it up) Mudryk Nkunku Keep on thin ice (for one or two years MAX, if they don't improve then they need to be sold. Most of these will get some resale value, some can stay as squad players) Kepa (We have more pressing needs but he is too short) Chilwell/CuCu (one has to go for Maatsen in a couple of years) Fofana (if he doesn't recover to pre-injury levels Chalobah ( until we can sign someone to replace Silva at RCB) Kante (I say let go if he gets injured again this season) Mount ( He is better than Gallagher and can play more positions, which is better for a squad player) Sterling Havertz Broja (if he doesn't recover to pre-injury levels) Sell sell sell (as soon as possible, there is no reason for any of these players to be here as they have been or will be replaced) Mendy Azpi (keep for one more year if he really wants to stay) KK Ampadu ( hasn't lived up to potential) RLC (Can't believe he is still here. Hasn't lived up to potential) Gallagher (Keep only if Mount doesn't sign and is sold) Ziyech Pulisic CHO ( hasn't lived up to potential) Anjorin ( hasn't lived up to potential) Auba Lukaku Loan (some of these we can't loan because of the limit so they'll have to settle for carabao cup. I expect an exodus of youth in the next few years) Slonina Colwill Hall Maatsen Humphreys Casadei Santos Hutchinson Vale DDF good list Hashishi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: do it Pep! be a real human, a moral one if he walks he skyrockets up my charts of all-time great managers Milan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 City will wriggle their way out of this... no doubt... But apparently they have been delaying this process for years with underhand tactics in the court rooms... they haven't produced what has been asked of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 the UAE is a cesspool of corruption, only the Saudis are worse, with the Qataris in 3rd place, the Kuwaitis in 4th (and they are only truly massive pot of cash (200 billion usd or more (Musk the RW prickfuck has collapsed to under that post Twitter), the Kuwaitis are worth 400 billion usd or so) left not involved in football at the highest levels, unless you count the so far also not involved Bernard Arnault THE REAL-TIME BILLIONAIRES LIST 1 Bernard Arnault $223.2 B 2 Elon Musk $164.3 B 3 Jeff Bezos $129.2 B 4 Larry Ellison $114.0 B 5 Warren Buffett $106.5 B 6 Bill Gates $104.9 B 7 Carlos Slim Helu $89.0 B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,482 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: We're waiting you Pep come here and save us. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Hashishi said: They have been charged with 100 breaches. This is unprecedented. I think they won't escape with a fine this time. It might be a points deduction or even relegation. They will want to set an example with them. Pep and Halaand to Chelsea. Even if they get what Juventus got. They’ll still be above us. On goal difference. By about 31 goals. Would say we should focus on ourselves and not Man City because at present we are, for a lack of a better word, honking. That bad to watch that I am gonna steal a Roy Keane saying “probably wouldn't watch us if we were playing in my back garden”. I mean other clubs getting point deductions not gonna make us a good team is it? So why theirs a huge obsession as if its gonna improve our fortunes is ludicrous. In fact, I will gon on a limb and say City could get a 15 point deduction and still have 90% more of a chance of making the top 4 than we will. Edited February 6, 2023 by OneMoSalah ZAPHOD2319 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,336 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 If they take them everything from that period we would not get any title. United would get 3 so Mourinho will have another one and even Ole lol And Gerrard slip will be title for him. Vesper and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,336 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 49 minutes ago, TheHulk said: We're waiting you Pep come here and save us. It would be such a Pep move. Coming to the best team and pretend to be best manager. We should walk the league next season regardless of the manager. laura90 and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: It would be such a Pep move. Coming to the best team and pretend to be best manager. We should walk the league next season regardless of the manager. Walk the league…. Optimistic ulsterchelsea, Artandur, Norfolkblue1961 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,482 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: It would be such a Pep move. Coming to the best team and pretend to be best manager. We should walk the league next season regardless of the manager. I'd share this idea if we had someone like Pep here but as of now a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 46 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Even if they get what Juventus got. They’ll still be above us. On goal difference. By about 31 goals. Would say we should focus on ourselves and not Man City because at present we are, for a lack of a better word, honking. That bad to watch that I am gonna steal a Roy Keane saying “probably wouldn't watch us if we were playing in my back garden”. I mean other clubs getting point deductions not gonna make us a good team is it? So why theirs a huge obsession as if its gonna improve our fortunes is ludicrous. In fact, I will gon on a limb and say City could get a 15 point deduction and still have 90% more of a chance of making the top 4 than we will. I will be watching. It always seems like the FA has a bone to pick with Chelsea. If they go hard at Man City, you know who they will just be waiting for us to breach any aspect of FFP. But yes, them getting slapped does nothing to improve us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I will be watching. It always seems like the FA has a bone to pick with Chelsea. If they go hard at Man City, you know who they will just be waiting for to breach any aspect of FFP. But yes, them getting slapped does nothing to improve us. What punishments can the independent commission impose on a club? Suspend a club from playing league matches Points deductions Recommend to the board that league matches be replayed Recommend to the board that the league expels the respondent club Order compensation Cancel or refuse registration of players Conditional punishment Order the club to pay costs Make such other order as it thinks fit Well I reckon from there, its its going to be compensation/conditional punishment more than likely. Because well its the PL and I doubt they will want to jump through all the hoops to make the league weaker by relegating City for example. People thinking titles will be stripped (alongside relegation) are living in cuckoo land for me. So if the PL as a product is the “best league in the world” why would they expel one of the best teams in the world? With the best players? Best coach etc? It just weakens the PL. City will probably pay some daft figures and that will be it. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12804623/man-city-premier-league-charges-explained-what-are-they-what-could-punishment-be-whats-the-timescale Edited February 6, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 🤣 kexik, Norfolkblue1961, Jype and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: 🤣 That's a relief. 🙂 laura90, ZAPHOD2319 and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tottenham-hotspur-will-not-sell-harry-kane-to-english-rival-this-summer-7lgm2bwtr?1 [The Times] Tottenham Hotspur will not sell Harry Kane to English rival this summer | Manchester United, who have been linked with the England captain, have bad memories of dealing with the north London club from when they signed Dimitar Berbatov and have made Napoli’s Victor Osimhen a target. - Harry Kane will need to continue his quest to become the Premier League’s record goalscorer at Tottenham Hotspur as the club will not sell him to a rival this summer. - Kane has hinted he is open to reviving contract talks in the coming months; negotiations have not taken place since his failed attempt to join Manchester City - Tottenham have never wanted to sell him to a rival. Manchester United, who have been linked with the England captain, have bad memories of dealing with the north London club from when they signed Dimitar Berbatov and have made Napoli’s Victor Osimhen a target. - Should Tottenham be willing to sell Kane abroad, where there may be interest from Bayern Munich as well as Real Madrid if Mauricio Pochettino takes charge, such a move would have an impact on his stated aim of breaking Shearer’s record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hashishi said: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tottenham-hotspur-will-not-sell-harry-kane-to-english-rival-this-summer-7lgm2bwtr?1 [The Times] Tottenham Hotspur will not sell Harry Kane to English rival this summer | Manchester United, who have been linked with the England captain, have bad memories of dealing with the north London club from when they signed Dimitar Berbatov and have made Napoli’s Victor Osimhen a target. - Harry Kane will need to continue his quest to become the Premier League’s record goalscorer at Tottenham Hotspur as the club will not sell him to a rival this summer. - Kane has hinted he is open to reviving contract talks in the coming months; negotiations have not taken place since his failed attempt to join Manchester City - Tottenham have never wanted to sell him to a rival. Manchester United, who have been linked with the England captain, have bad memories of dealing with the north London club from when they signed Dimitar Berbatov and have made Napoli’s Victor Osimhen a target. - Should Tottenham be willing to sell Kane abroad, where there may be interest from Bayern Munich as well as Real Madrid if Mauricio Pochettino takes charge, such a move would have an impact on his stated aim of breaking Shearer’s record. This may be a problem as we don't have CL and Osimhens contract ends summer 2025. This is the last summer they can make some serious cash for him and he won't go for less than 100m+. United might have new owners who are willing to spend. ADL is going to be a bitch to negotiate with. He might still hate us for poaching Sarri and Jorginho. I don't know how we stand with them since we signed a good player from them, but a shit player for us for 35m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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