Chelsea Transfers

[MoroccanBlue 5,399]

This Mount is a #8 talk does my head in at times. He's arguably looked worse as a #8 and his best bits in a Chelsea kit came when he was on that right side running through the channels. 

I'd go as far as saying Mount at RW in a 4231 is his future. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,399]

18 minutes ago, DDA said:

Would it not have been easier for Todd and his goons to have purchased Brighton instead??

He plays for Brentford. 

[DDA 10,237]

20 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

He plays for Brentford. 

Oh shit 👀😂

[Hashishi 148]

44 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

 

I think he would be better than Kepa and would be a good buy. Either Kepa or Mendy are leaving this summer.

[Jype 6,398]

2 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

I think he would be better than Kepa and would be a good buy. Either Kepa or Mendy are leaving this summer.

Yeah with Kepa we are getting closer and closer to the point where we can finally bin him off. Probably not next summer still but maybe in 2024 when he'll have just one year remaining on his contract and £10M amortisation value left.

With Potter preferring Kepa over Mendy I wouldn't be surprised if Mendy left in the summer though. His book value will have only £10M left and his salary is just £55K/wk so surely there's some club willing to pay a decent enough fee for him and also afford his wages. He may not be that well suited to a team that requires the keeper to play from the back with his feet but he'd definitely be a great pick for some top half team in one of the big leagues whose play style suits him.

[MoroccanBlue 5,399]

At 27 as well which works well. Can give us a few good years until Slonina is ready. 

[TheHulk 2,647]

13 minutes ago, Jype said:

Mount is also predominantly a central midfielder while Havertz is a forward/winger/no10 or whatever the hell he even is so why should their goal contribution numbers even be up for comparison? If anything, the numbers you posted just confirm Mount is a much better player of the two because they have basically the same end product but Mount is also much better at pressing etc. while Havertz does virtually fuck all when he doesn't get the goal contributions. 

It's also been debunked by lots of sources (ie. Matt Law) that he's demanding a £300K/wk salary for his extension. Will probably still be more than £200K if James' salary is anything to go by but still way less than the reports in the media?

Mount also cost the club £0 while Havertz cost £70M. Havertz on £150K/wk and £14M a year in amortisation is way more expensive for the club than Mount would be even if he did get the £300K/wk.

Again you guys are worshipping Mount when it's pretty obvious he isn't much better than Havertz overall.

Havertz 2021 rating PL 7.24 CL 7.42

Mount 2021 rating PL 7.69 CL 7.12

 

Havertz 2022 rating PL 7.23 CL 7.16

Mount 2022 rating PL  6.69 CL  7.24

They are very close in rating everything included tackles, passes completed, etc.

As for Matt Law debunking that number you think 260k is any better? Same shit, again why should Mount receive star wages when he is a squad player? Anything above 150k and 200k with performances is an absolute rip off, it looks like Mason wants to take the club to the cleaners with his demands either way otherwise would've been settled long ago by now.

[Blue Armour 4,721]

5 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

I've been dreading this possibility. And this won't be Mourinho or Conte when they normally go into meltdown 

[TheHulk 2,647]

 

Trading him for Sterling proved to be a big L.

 

Edited January 18, 2023 by TheHulk

[YorkshireBlue 3,345]

16 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Again you guys are worshipping Mount when it's pretty obvious he isn't much better than Havertz overall.

Havertz 2021 rating PL 7.24 CL 7.42

Mount 2021 rating PL 7.69 CL 7.12

 

Havertz 2022 rating PL 7.23 CL 7.16

Mount 2022 rating PL  6.69 CL  7.24

They are very close in rating everything included tackles, passes completed, etc.

As for Matt Law debunking that number you think 260k is any better? Same shit, again why should Mount receive star wages when he is a squad player? Anything above 150k and 200k with performances is an absolute rip off, it looks like Mason wants to take the club to the cleaners with his demands either way otherwise would've been settled long ago by now.

You didn't read his post did you? 🤣🤣

[YorkshireBlue 3,345]

5 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

 

Trading him for Sterling proved to be a big L.

 

Blame TT for that.

[MoroccanBlue 5,399]

11 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

I've been dreading this possibility. And this won't be Mourinho or Conte when they normally go into meltdown 

It will. Tuchel has fallen out with every board he's been at. Imagine penny pinching Levy. 

[TheHulk 2,647]

Just now, YorkshireBlue said:

You didn't read his post did you? 🤣🤣

I did read his post, Havertz does fuck all while Mount pulls tree but the ratings shows they have similar impact during the last 2 seasons.

No wonder he won player of the year 2 times in a row if guys like you voted for him.

[Pizy 19,280]

I’m still fine giving Kai one more season. 🤷‍♂️ 

With Nkunku coming in as an alternative and us hopefully dramatically upgrading the wide attacking positions I don’t see the downside in keeping Havertz. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,345]

14 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

I did read his post, Havertz does fuck all while Mount pulls tree but the ratings shows they have similar impact during the last 2 seasons.

No wonder he won player of the year 2 times in a row if guys like you voted for him.

I don't vote mate, and so you just chose to ignore the 70m part of the post lol 

[MoroccanBlue 5,399]

10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I’m still fine giving Kai one more season. 🤷‍♂️ 

With Nkunku coming in as an alternative and us hopefully dramatically upgrading the wide attacking positions I don’t see the downside in keeping Havertz. 

I do if Felix absolutely crushes it this second half of the season. 

 

[Jype 6,398]

14 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Again you guys are worshipping Mount when it's pretty obvious he isn't much better than Havertz overall.

I'm not worshipping anyone, I'm just saying Havertz has been comfortably worse throughout both of their times at the club.

Havertz in 2,5 seasons PL games: average rating 6.75 on WhoScored.com and 3 MotM 

Mount in 3,5 seasons PL games: average rating 7.10 on WhoScored.com and 15 MotM

If we pick the statistics any deeper than G+A I'm pretty sure there won't be many where Havertz comes out on top. And that's just a statistical comparison of the two, but the eye test has always told me the same thing.

Again there's no 'worship' going on and especially this season I have been quite critical of Mount as well but let's not pretend for one fucking second Havertz has overall been anywhere near the player Mount has for the club.

The optics also matter. One came to the club as a supposed 'generational talent' for fucking £70M and the other is a homegrown lad from the academy.

Now if Mount were to sign a high-salary contract extension then of course he will be held to higher standards than he currently does but up until now there's no comparison between the two. Mount currently costs the club £4M a year in salary while Havertz total costs with amortisation and salary is around £20M a year. What's the excuse for the latter being consistently worse?

[TheHulk 2,647]

Just now, YorkshireBlue said:

I don't vote mate, and so you just chose to ignore the 70m part of the post lol 

Of course I choose to ignore, I'm a fucking fan I watch the team and the players how they perform, I don't give a fuck one costed 70M and one nothing if both deliver the same crap/average performances. Why should one get more benefit at being poor than the other based on what they cost when both deliver the same garbage on field. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,345]

11 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Of course I choose to ignore, I'm a fucking fan

Can think of better words here 🤣if your a fan stop believing everything u read on Twitter and and back the team you love rather than comming on here pissing and screaming about the same two players constantly, both are young both will improve massively... facts.

Edited January 18, 2023 by YorkshireBlue

[TheHulk 2,647]

3 minutes ago, Jype said:

I'm not worshipping anyone, I'm just saying Havertz has been comfortably worse throughout both of their times at the club.

Havertz in 2,5 seasons PL games: average rating 6.75 on WhoScored.com and 3 MotM 

Mount in 3,5 seasons PL games: average rating 7.10 on WhoScored.com and 15 MotM

If we pick the statistics any deeper than G+A I'm pretty sure there won't be many where Havertz comes out on top. And that's just a statistical comparison of the two, but the eye test has always told me the same thing.

Again there's no 'worship' going on and especially this season I have been quite critical of Mount as well but let's not pretend for one fucking second Havertz has overall been anywhere near the player Mount has for the club.

The optics also matter. One came to the club as a supposed 'generational talent' for fucking £70M and the other is a homegrown lad from the academy.

Now if Mount were to sign a high-salary contract extension then of course he will be held to higher standards than he currently does but up until now there's no comparison between the two. Mount currently costs the club £4M a year in salary while Havertz total costs with amortisation and salary is around £20M a year. What's the excuse for the latter being consistently worse?

Hasn't been anywhere near Mount yet his stats aren't far off from him in contributions and ratings in the last 2 seasons.

So Mount coming from the academy and being on a free now gives him the right to be among the best earners despite his on field performances being no way near as good as Kante and James? I honestly don't care he is from the academy and cost the club nothing, you shouldn't be given star wages unless you play like a star, Mount aside 2-3 performances he has been nothing more than a squad player for us, albeit a good squad player worth keeping but only for the right wages.

My worries is the club gives in to his demands and after we are stuck with him if he doesn't improve. Personally I'd sell both Mount and Havertz and buy Joao on a permanent and give Gallagher, Carney his minutes doubt we gonna see any downgrade in performances.