Chelsea Transfers

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1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

 

Why not upgrade Jorgi before finding a world class successor for Kante. The club's mouthpieces and PR department need to be better at selling the nonsense that they are perpetuating. Rather just say that the manager screwed the pooch. His massive ego thought that all he needed was change of personnel in attack rather a complete makeover of his tactics and our mid.

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6 minutes ago, blahblahblah said:

An ever more depressing way to look at it would be that we have gone from a promising No.9 in tammy to a has been with discipline and attitude issues in Auba. When you think about it all, its hopelessly funny.

Tammy was wank when he was here. This isn't Brighton, players have to produce from the get go.. they don't have time to fall around all over the pitch and miss endless sitters. 

I get you have an agenda against all decisions made and don't get me wrong, I question many of them but let's not criticise decisions that were necessarily taken for the greater good of the club. Tammy was not good enough and may never be. 

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1 minute ago, DDA said:

Tammy was wank when he was here. This isn't Brighton, players have to produce from the get go.. they don't have time to fall around all over the pitch and miss endless sitters. 

I get you have an agenda against all decisions made and don't get me wrong, I question many of them but let's not criticise decisions that were necessarily taken for the greater good of the club. Tammy was not good enough and may never be. 

Oh. And a 33 year old auba is? Did you watch his last 1.5 years at arsenal.

Tammy showed enough to easily be a very good back up option/2nd striker. 

We don't have a 1st striker now and are expecting a has been to work wonders.

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30 minutes ago, blahblahblah said:

Oh. And a 33 year old auba is? Did you watch his last 1.5 years at arsenal.

Tammy showed enough to easily be a very good back up option/2nd striker. 

We don't have a 1st striker now and are expecting a has been to work wonders.

Tbf, the only person Auba has ever had an issue is Arteta. He has been producing for Barca. I will wait and see what he brings. If I am understanding the price 18m pounds for three years is 6M a year? That is a pretty safe punt.

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1 minute ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Tbf, the only person Auba has ever had an issue is Arteta. He has been producing for Barca. I will wait and see what he brings. If I am understanding the price 18m pounds for three years is 6M a year? That is a pretty safe punt.

Erm - Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang's Disciplinary Issues Emerge Following His Dortmund Suspension | 90min

He's had issues for quite some time. 

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3 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Tbf, the only person Auba has ever had an issue is Arteta. He has been producing for Barca. I will wait and see what he brings. If I am understanding the price 18m pounds for three years is 6M a year? That is a pretty safe punt.

He has had disciplinary issues since his BVB days. Its as safe a punt as Ross barkley was. Hell he was just bought in for 15m right? Now we cant off load him, have to give him his wages etc etc. I see pretty much a similar scenario playing out here. Just because the money is 18m, does not make it a safe punt. It can end up costing us a very bright player in Broja and then chasing our tails with 50-100m punts on the moratas and lukakus of the world. Even the 18m is like 3 or 4 times of his actual worth. 

Its an absolute worthless deal.

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8 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

Nope, we linked and signed Chukwuemeka and Casadei but both are more like no. 8 rather than a DM. Even De Jong himself isn't really a DM. The genuine DM like Tchouameni and Kamara got snapped fast by other clubs before we can even act.

 comprehensive DMF list, including youth prospects

Blue bold are the doable nows, Kouadio Koné is the way to go for me, he can play anywhere in MF, super athlete

Declan Rice
Jude Bellingham    (not really a DMF, but can play a pivot, we MUST move hard for him next summer)
Nicolò Barella   closest thing to Kante
Frenkie de Jong  
Mikel Merino      
Marcos Llorente   
Wilfred Ndidi
Sandro Tonali  
Rúben Neves 
Kouadio Koné
Teun Koopmeiners   
Guido Rodríguez 
Douglas Luiz  
Ismaël Bennacer   
Weston McKennie 
Martín Zubimendi 
André Zambo Anguissa
Leander Dendoncker
Danilo    (Palmeiras)   
Julian Weigl

youth

Khéphren Thuram
Manuel Ugarte
Samuele Ricci 
Lucas Gourna-Douath  
Ivan Ilić
Aster Vranckx
Raphael Onyedika
Noah Mbamba  17yo on Club Brugge
Marco Kana

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Just now, blahblahblah said:

He has had disciplinary issues since his BVB days. Its as safe a punt as Ross barkley was. Hell he was just bought in for 15m right? Now we cant off load him, have to give him his wages etc etc. I see pretty much a similar scenario playing out here. Just because the money is 18m, does not make it a safe punt. It can end up costing us a very bright player in Broja and then chasing our tails with 50-100m punts on the moratas and lukakus of the world. Even the 18m is like 3 or 4 times of his actual worth. 

Its an absolute worthless deal.

I don't agree. Barkley was never a deal that hurt the club being able to bring in players. Barkley was a decent squad player, nothing more. Not everyone we have will be a worldie. Deals like Lukaku are what will hurt us. If the manager wants to take a punt for 6M a year in the way prices are now, give him that. This is Tuchel's request, if enough of them do not work, he will answer for the deadwood. 

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2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I don't agree. Barkley was never a deal that hurt the club being able to bring in players. Barkley was a decent squad player, nothing more. Not everyone we have will be a worldie. Deals like Lukaku are what will hurt us. If the manager wants to take a punt for 6M a year in the way prices are now, give him that. This is Tuchel's request, if enough of them do not work, he will answer for the deadwood. 

We already have a deadwood named Lukaku on our books. He is not OFF the books. Thats 20m per year + 6m per year. How many more of such duds can we keep in our squad? You think we will be able to afford ANOTHER striker if (and when) Auba does not work. 

Also, I think TT first needs to answer for Lukaku. RL was bought with his go ahead. I think its high time we stop collecting deadwood strikers.

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2 hours ago, We Hate Scouse said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11133531/Chelsea-eye-Brightons-Adam-Webster-Wesley-Fofana-alternative-Leicester-demanding-80m.html

Adam Webster as an alternative to Fofana...

 

would much rather move for 

 lefty

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Just now, blahblahblah said:

We already have a deadwood named Lukaku on our books. He is not OFF the books. Thats 20m per year + 6m per year. How many more of such duds can we keep in our squad? You think we will be able to afford ANOTHER striker if (and when) Auba does not work. 

Also, I think TT first needs to answer for Lukaku. RL was bought with his go ahead. I think its high time we stop collecting deadwood strikers.

My sentence about Lukaku is present tense. Yes, we can get another striker without a 6m per year player blocking that. Lukaku is a different deal altogether. It sounds like you have an issue with Tuchel. Seeing how he is about to sign for another three years, that could get awkward supporting the team.

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1 minute ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

sounds like you have an issue with Tuchel

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1 minute ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

My sentence about Lukaku is present tense. Yes, we can get another striker without a 6m per year player blocking that. Lukaku is a different deal altogether. It sounds like you have an issue with Tuchel. Seeing how he is about to sign for another three years, that could get awkward supporting the team.

I supported the team through FSW or AVB, so TT is not much of an issue. 

I will continue to support the club and team and the player while being objective about them. I have not and will not put them on a pedestal (unlike some) and not call them out when I see them dragging the club down. 

If you think TT is doing a good job, good for you and best of luck. I dont. 

I dont think his tactics are good, I dont think the way he has managed the squad has been good and I definitely dont like what he has done this window in literally chopping of all our attackers from last season (Werner, lukaku, ziyech, puli, cho) while keeping his outdated and found-out tactics the same, specially without upgrading the mid.

If you think Auba helps us in anyway or form, great for you. Just be prepared for a hopelessly rude awakening. I feel its an absolutel waste of money, waste of a squad spot and most importantly waste of an oppurtunity to grow Broja into the role. Infact, i dont even know if the kid will stay given that he will be 3rd choice ST behind Auba and Kai.

I am quite satisfied with my line of thought. Its got the club and its success at the center of it. I think people need to access theirs specially who are blindly following TT. 

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I very much question TT offensive scheme. I can look at the fact that Boehly has confidence with him, so I just don't see the need to get irritated by the situation. I thought a lot more of Tuchel a year ago than I currently do, but i could also be in the moment of us not doing particularly well. Tuchel will either get it together or we may end up slogging through a season before he is gone. I thought I knew what was going on with Frank managing the team. When the stories came out of how he was treating players it only showed we are not aware of everything that goes on.   

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