Chelsea Transfers

[Special Juan 28,098]

Whats all these noises about De Jong now

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

Doesn’t spending a combined ~30m on a couple of teenaged midfielders suggest the De Jong rumors are kind of farfetched? I know the Italian kid if signed won’t be coming to the first team this season but still. 

I like the 'speculative' spending on teenagers but it has to be low cost. I like some of the earlier acquisitions more than Casadei but the principal is sound. It also syncs with the PL2 competition becoming U21 instead of U23. Playing 23 year-olds regularly in your reserve side is just wasting everyone's time. By that age players should be in the first team squad, out on loan, or out of the door.

[Superblue 6,372]

13 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I like the 'speculative' spending on teenagers but it has to be low cost. I like some of the earlier acquisitions more than Casadei but the principal is sound. It also syncs with the PL2 competition becoming U21 instead of U23. Playing 23 year-olds regularly in your reserve side is just wasting everyone's time. By that age players should be in the first team squad, out on loan, or out of the door.

Is it now strictly for under 21's or are there allowances to play some players over this age.

I get your point on lowering the age, but if you had a first team player coming back from injury is this the only place they could get minutes outside of the first team picture when working back up to fitness?

[chelsea_4_eva 1,180]

If Boehly is going to keep it on brand, he would prefer we develop Broja rather than buying a stop gap.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

1 hour ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Is it now strictly for under 21's or are there allowances to play some players over this age.

I get your point on lowering the age, but if you had a first team player coming back from injury is this the only place they could get minutes outside of the first team picture when working back up to fitness?

Yes overaged players will continue to be allowed for exactly that reason. Eventually this will be restricted to three outfield players per game but, to allow teams to transition from U23 to U21 the allowance this year will be five overaged players. I'm not sure if it goes down to four next season and then to three for the season following that or if it goes straight to three next season.

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[Pizy 18,852]

Would be a huge boost to us if United signed a couple of midfielders now to confirm that they’ve moved on from De Jong. If they sign Rabiot and one other then that’ll signal they have indeed dropped their interest.

[Clockwork 1,794]

9 minutes ago, Hermione said:

United hasn't been the problem for days now, it's the fact Frenkie doesn't want to leave that sinking ship.

I wouldn’t call Barca a sinking ship, with the additions they have a squad that can compete with anyone. They will replace FDJ with Bernardo, which is an upgrade.

[Pizy 18,852]

53 minutes ago, Hermione said:

United hasn't been the problem for days now, it's the fact Frenkie doesn't want to leave that sinking ship.

I just can’t imagine they’ve spent the entire summer desperately chasing him and have now just given up when his future still isn’t resolved.

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4 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I just can’t imagine they’ve spent the entire summer desperately chasing him and have now just given up when his future still isn’t resolved.

I don't think they have given up, but they have to get in a DM now McFred is still not working for them. Their back line is always under fire.

[Pizy 18,852]

Sounds like Kepa to Napoli isn’t happening now. The club was probably planning for his wages to be off the books this summer so I wonder what happens now. Surely he’ll be desperately searching for a new club so he can try to get into the Spain WC squad.

[Superblue 6,372]

28 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I just can’t imagine they’ve spent the entire summer desperately chasing him and have now just given up when his future still isn’t resolved.

The bigger difference is we can wait out to the end of the transfer window to see if he becomes available or agrees to leave Barca because if it doesn't happen I don't think Tuchel has a problem with the options he already has this season. De Jong becomes a cherry on the top for us this window.

For United, it's essential they bring someone into their midfield and improve its quality and they can't really afford to wait on De Jong in hope in case they get left with nothing at the end.

[Jype 6,398]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Sounds like Kepa to Napoli isn’t happening now. The club was probably planning for his wages to be off the books this summer so I wonder what happens now. Surely he’ll be desperately searching for a new club so he can try to get into the Spain WC squad.

It was always reported that Chelsea would have to pay 75% of his wages during the loan and Napoli would only pay the remaining 25%. They'd have paid a decent loan fee though.

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Sounds like Kepa to Napoli isn’t happening now. The club was probably planning for his wages to be off the books this summer so I wonder what happens now. Surely he’ll be desperately searching for a new club so he can try to get into the Spain WC squad.

It's all on him. He needs to accept a lower wage.