Chelsea Transfers

[DDA 9,985]

Real Madrid and Barca really are the venom of football.

 

Fucking hate them both with a passion.

 

I had fingers and toes crossed that Barca would fall into the pits of hell but who were we kidding. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I think this is their next deal. RM is in a league of their own with turning players heads.

 

been preparing myself to lose him to RM for months now

we should have closed it out this past summer (and let him play for RB this season)

I deffo can see Gvardiol as the best CB on the planet in a few years

he may well be their new Ramos

I also see them making a play for Bellingham

that new billion euro stadium/retail complex fully opens this coming season,

so that is an extra 150m or so in additional revenue each fiscal year

the thing that SUCKS is that they are buying players I love and getting rid of most of the cunts (soon or already have) that I hated (mega twat Ramos, CR7, Carvajal (eventually, I cannot stand him and he soon is 31yo, turns 32 this coming season), Marcelo, Lucas, Casemiro, Pepe, Nacho, Asensio, Isco, Bale, and also eventually, Benz)

I detest Militão and Cuntois (but do admit he is the best GKer on the planet atm, arfff) though, so still some to hate, LOLOL (I do not hate Kroos (one of the most underrated WC MFers in the past 30 years IMHO, he is, and has been for ages, the best precision/accuracy passer on the planet, has never been under 91, 92% completion rate (and often higher, as high as 95/96%) for last 10 years or so) and Modric, they were always fair play superstars who rarely, if ever, cunted it up hardcore)

 

 

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14 minutes ago, DDA said:

I had fingers and toes crossed that Barca would fall into the pits of hell but who were we kidding. 

levers

[Tomo 21,751]

11 minutes ago, Vesper said:

been preparing myself to lose him to RM for months now

we should have closed it out this past summer (and let him play for RB this season)

I deffo can see Gvardiol as the best CB on the planet in a few years

he may well be their new Ramos

I also see them making a play for Bellingham

that new billion euro stadium/retail complex fully opens this coming season,

so that is an extra 150m or so in additional revenue each fiscal year

the thing that SUCKS is that they are buying players I love and getting rid of most of the cunts (soon or already have) that I hated (mega twat Ramos, CR7, Carvajal (eventually, I cannot stand him and he soon is 31yo, turns 32 this coming season), Marcelo, Lucas, Casemiro, Pepe, Nacho, Asensio, Isco, Bale, and also eventually, Benz)

I detest Militão and Cuntois (but do admit he is the best GKer on the planet atm, arfff) though, so still some to hate, LOLOL (I do not hate Kroos (one of the most underrated WC MFers in the past 30 years IMHO, he is, and has been for ages, the best precision/accuracy passer on the planet, has never been under 91, 92% completion rate (and often higher, as high as 95/96%) for last 10 years or so) and Modric, they were always fair play superstars who rarely, if ever, cunted it up hardcore)

 

 

Unfortunately as @OhForAGreavsie said Real's pull is something we have to work round. 

Got mixed feelings with this one as I rate him incredibly highly but I'm also a big Colwill believer despite what is happening at Brighton.

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2025-26 Real Madrid potential starting XI

eeeeek

GK Thibaut Courtois 
CB Josko Gvardiol
CB Éder Militão (see below, I am still not sold that he is who they want at the end of the day) 
LB Alphonso Davies (only team that could pull him, I wager, maybe Citeh could)
RB Achraf Hakimi
DMF Aurélien Tchouameni 
CMF Federico Valverde   
AMF/CMF Hybrid Jude Bellingham
LW Vinicius Junior
RW Endrick
CF Kylian Mbappé

and I can see them also looking at (if things go in a different direction for some above)

red are the hardest to pull

CB Rúben Dias (they are the only team who could pull him)
CB Ronald Araújo (only because it is Barca)
CB Matthijs de Ligt
CB Cristian Romero
LB Bukayo Saka
LB Nuno Mendes
LB Theo Hernández
RB Reece James
RB Trent Alexander-Arnold (his defence, though, yikes)
RB Diogo Dalot (vastly superior to TAA on defence)
CMF Nicolò Barella (very doubtful they need him, but I did want to list one CMF)  
AMF Jamal Musiala (hard as fuck pull, but imagine him as the AMF, Bellingham as the CMF, Tchou as DMF, and they sell Valverde to fund, which, I admit is VERY unlikely, as Valverde is top 3 CMF on planet himself)
AMF Florian Wirtz  (IF he recovers fully)  
Winger Khvicha Kvaratskhelia (ambipedal, can play either wing, which is huge)
RW/SS Rafael Leão (they really do not need him IF they end up with Mbappe, as they already have Vini Jr there too) 
CF Erling Håland (not sure if they even would move for him, if they pull Mbappe, you start to have overload up front, as both Vini and Mbappe are LW'ers (Mbappe can play CF too), not sold on one of them moving to RW, especially if Endrick, a left-footer, blows up there, plus Endrick can play CF as well)
CF Victor Osimhen
CF Dušan Vlahović 
CF Gonçalo Ramos (if he keeps blowing up)

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58 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Unfortunately as @OhForAGreavsie said Real's pull is something we have to work round. 

Got mixed feelings with this one as I rate him incredibly highly but I'm also a big Colwill believer despite what is happening at Brighton.

Colwill coming good becomes insanely important IF we fail on Gvardiol and Fofana simply never regains pre injury form

we simply do not have the pull to grab a Gvardiol level CB replacement (there are SO few out there, especially left footers)

 

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-josko-gvardiol-out-of-Chelsea-transfer-range-croatia-world-cup

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Asked about interest from Chelsea while on duty with Croatia, Gvardiol said: “[Chelsea are] a big club of course and, who knows, maybe one day I will be there. It’s really nice to see things like this, especially because there is [Mateo] Kovacic, so you never know. I talk with him.”

Now compare that response with him being asked about the possibility of joining Real Madrid.

“Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world, so who knows… maybe one day I can play there. I would like to, yes. Luka [Modric] doesn’t have to tell me anything about Real Madrid, it’s not necessary. I already know everything, I know it’s the biggest club in the world and how important it is to be linked to a team like that.”

[OhForAGreavsie 6,092]

23 hours ago, LAM09 said:

We're under new ownership & are clearly going in a different direction, so the past has little to no relevance to what's to come.

Except in that we hope the new crew learn from it. The new leadership are high calibre people. They can't help but see what went before and I at least will be stunned if they don't take lessons from it.

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[OhForAGreavsie 6,092]

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

Got mixed feelings with this one as I rate him [Gvardiol] incredibly highly but I'm also a big Colwill believer despite what is happening at Brighton.

Then, depending on how you feel about Chilly & Cucu, hop onboard the Gvardiol for LB/LWB train. I'm convinced he has the attributes and that the roll suits him.🙂 

Edited December 8, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[LAM09 7,069]

3 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Except in that we hope the new crew learn from it. The new leadership are high calibre people. They can't help but see what went before and I at least will be stunned if they don't take lessons from it.

They are making strides to make sure they have the best possible team around them to help the club strive, so it's promising. Let's see what type of position we're in 12 to 18 months from now.

[Superblue 6,372]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

2025-26 Real Madrid potential starting XI

eeeeek

GK Thibaut Courtois 
CB Josko Gvardiol
CB Éder Militão (see below, I am still not sold that he is who they want at the end of the day) 
LB Alphonso Davies (only team that could pull him, I wager, maybe Citeh could)
RB Achraf Hakimi
DMF Aurélien Tchouameni 
CMF Federico Valverde   
AMF/CMF Hybrid Jude Bellingham
LW Vinicius Junior
RW Endrick
CF Kylian Mbappé

and I can see them also looking at (if things go in a different direction for some above)

red are the hardest to pull

CB Rúben Dias (they are the only team who could pull him)
CB Ronald Araújo (only because it is Barca)
CB Matthijs de Ligt
CB Cristian Romero
LB Bukayo Saka
LB Nuno Mendes
LB Theo Hernández
RB Reece James
RB Trent Alexander-Arnold (his defence, though, yikes)
RB Diogo Dalot (vastly superior to TAA on defence)
CMF Nicolò Barella (very doubtful they need him, but I did want to list one CMF)  
AMF Jamal Musiala (hard as fuck pull, but imagine him as the AMF, Bellingham as the CMF, Tchou as DMF, and they sell Valverde to fund, which, I admit is VERY unlikely, as Valverde is top 3 CMF on planet himself)
AMF Florian Wirtz  (IF he recovers fully)  
Winger Khvicha Kvaratskhelia (ambipedal, can play either wing, which is huge)
RW/SS Rafael Leão (they really do not need him IF they end up with Mbappe, as they already have Vini Jr there too) 
CF Erling Håland (not sure if they even would move for him, if they pull Mbappe, you start to have overload up front, as both Vini and Mbappe are LW'ers (Mbappe can play CF too), not sold on one of them moving to RW, especially if Endrick, a left-footer, blows up there, plus Endrick can play CF as well)
CF Victor Osimhen
CF Dušan Vlahović 
CF Gonçalo Ramos (if he keeps blowing up)

This all looks fine and well in principle but 3 - 4 years away is a long time in football. 

Some players will lose form and drop off, some players will get injured, and between now and then there will be other players that develop in their own time into top talents which might not be so obvious right now, and new players that come through academies.

It'd be interesting for what a list similar to this might have looked like 3, 4, 5 years ago compared to reality today. Would it have included someone like Dele Alli? Rashford? Sancho? Havertz?

At this moment in time we just have to focus and worry about ourselves and not what anyone else is currently doing. Get our house in order and the rest will follow.

[Strike 7,533]

5 hours ago, Superblue said:

This all looks fine and well in principle but 3 - 4 years away is a long time in football. 

Some players will lose form and drop off, some players will get injured, and between now and then there will be other players that develop in their own time into top talents which might not be so obvious right now, and new players that come through academies.

It'd be interesting for what a list similar to this might have looked like 3, 4, 5 years ago compared to reality today. Would it have included someone like Dele Alli? Rashford? Sancho? Havertz?

At this moment in time we just have to focus and worry about ourselves and not what anyone else is currently doing. Get our house in order and the rest will follow.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2017/oct/04/next-generation-2017-60-of-the-best-young-talents-in-world-football

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12 hours ago, Superblue said:

This all looks fine and well in principle but 3 - 4 years away is a long time in football. 

3 or 4?

after next season, there is only one more season (2024/25) in between that line-up's season (2025/26) I posted

They cannot sign all of those in just 2 summers (2023 and 2024) although they could (and likely will) make huge inroads then

they already are possibly well down that path, unfortunately

The only thing they are being stupid about IMHO is that fucking Super League bullshit

I doubt they 100% run the table on all of those (Bellingham will be hard as hell, for instance, as would the first two CB's listed in my options list), but I wager they will come damn close, especially given that alternatives list

7 hours ago, Strike said:

It'd be interesting for what a list similar to this might have looked like 3, 4, 5 years ago compared to reality today. Would it have included someone like Dele Alli? Rashford? Sancho? Havertz?

Only one on there I really wanted was Havertz, who unfortunately just is not a good fit it turns out, for us, given the systems we have used

at least he played a huge role in winning the CL for us

Sancho was never a 'OMG, we have to buy him' type for me

examples of that type for me were/are : Tchou, Bellingham, Gvardiol, Skriniar, Oblak, Osimhen (as we had no shot at Mbappe or Håland, despite trying for Håland, the money was just too insane and once his RC kicked in, Citeh was there), Theo (years before him, Alex Sandro), and Hakimi.

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4 hours ago, Vesper said:

3 or 4?

after next season, there is only one more season (2024/25) in between that line-up's season (2025/26) I posted

3 years from now we'd be in the middle of this 2025/26 season you've mentioned.

That's a huge amount of time in football. 

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1 hour ago, Superblue said:

3 years from now we'd be in the middle of this 2025/26 season you've mentioned.

That's a huge amount of time in football. 

the summer 2025 window will be in the rear view 3 years from now

I already took into account ageing players for my list

Edited December 9, 2022 by Vesper

[NikkiCFC 8,372]

I see a lot of rumours about Leao again. But can he play together with Nkunku? How would that look on the pitch position wise? 

[MoroccanBlue 5,384]

3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

I see a lot of rumours about Leao again. But can he play together with Nkunku? How would that look on the pitch position wise? 

Nkunku as a false 9 maybe. 

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3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

I see a lot of rumours about Leao again. But can he play together with Nkunku? How would that look on the pitch position wise? 

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