Chelsea Transfers

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

37 minutes ago, Vesper said:

 

He is so slow the whole video is just him walking up a dozen  stairs lol

[xPetrCechx 13,571]

39 minutes ago, Last Sicarius said:

See you guys next summer 😎👋

In January 🤩

[Jype 6,398]

3 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Not sure how true or accurate but just saw a tweet suggesting that Chelsea have reduced their wage bill this summer by around £36m per annum with the incomings and outgoings at the club.

If it is indeed anything close to a figure like that, I think that's another significant positive this summer. For too long we've allowed players to stay at the club and each summer had to expend far too much energy finding solutions for these players. A lot of them have now been moved on permanently and hands wiped clean of them. The loan system will still be hugely important for the club but it should be for creating pathways for young talent to either develop to play for Chelsea or develop to be sold elsewhere for a good fee. 

Hmm, let's see. All reported wages might not be accurate but they're probably in the ballpark, numbers taken from Capology.com

Outgoings:

1. Lukaku £325K/wk
2. Werner £270K/wk
3. Saul Niguez £200K/wk
4. CHO £120K/wk
5. Malang Sarr £120K/wk
6. Alonso £100K/wk
7. Rüdiger £100K/wk
8. Barkley £100K/wk
9. Christensen £80K/wk
10. Drinkwater £100K/wk
11. Musonda £40K/wk
12. Kenedy £25K/wk
13. Batshuayi £90K/wk

= £86.8M a year saved minus whatever salary compensation is being paid towards some of the loanees' salaries (CHO, Sarr, Batshuayi) as well as Barkley's termination.

Incomings:

1. Sterling £325K/wk
2. Koulibaly £295K/wk
3. Fofana £200K/wk
4. Aubameyang £200K/wk
5. Cucurella £175K/wk
6. Zakaria £90K/wk

= £66.8M a year plus Gallagher, Broja, Chukweuemeka, Casadei, Slonina salaries however much they are.

 

If we play a guessing game and estimate the outgoing loanee wage compensations to be around half their salaries (apart from Lukaku whose wages are paid in full by Inter) that would lower the total savings from outgoing salaries to around £75M a year. As for the new additions, none of the younger guys are probably on high wages but for five players together the figure probably still adds up to around £10-20M a year so a total increase of £75-85M.

£36M a year in savings sounds like bullshit but all added up together it doesn't look like the overall wage bill has increased either despite some new signings on very high wages, though with new deals likely being signed by Mount and James in the near future the total salary bill will go up a little bit given they'll probably get around triple the money they're currently on.

Looks to be in a pretty good balance to me.

[Vegetable 830]

9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

He is so slow the whole video is just him walking up a dozen  stairs lol

I fully understand the general sentiment of mocking Alonso, but I won't be surprised if he'll be killing it for them – less rigid defense, less pace, more individuality, more carefree attacking? Alonso may be a baller for Spanish league and the've got him for peanuts 

[Vesper 30,195]

15 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Bellingham is an amazing talent. Creative and still resolute. Would be gutted to see him at Liverpool but I fear it’s inevitable 
 

What I find most interesting about dortmunds game is the brilliant football they are playing despite having a poor man’s Lukaku up front in modeste who looks completely useless and isolated 

 

Hummels still thuggin' it up, lol

[Vegetable 830]

11 minutes ago, Jype said:

Drinkwater £100K/wk

Hope this guy writes an autobiography one day, I'd be genuinely interested in his outlook on life.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Vegetable

[Jype 6,398]

9 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Hope this guy writes and autobiography one day, I'd be genuinely interested in his outlook on life.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12647445/danny-drinkwater-on-his-Chelsea-nightmare-i-wasted-some-of-my-best-years

He had a pretty honest interview a couple months ago with Sky Sports, talked about some mental health issues and also about the football. Comes across a very decent guy to be fair.

From the club's perspective it would have been nice if he'd accepted a permanent move away with a big wage cut years ago but let's be honest here, who of us would actually leave millions and millions of pounds on the table if you had a contract that said you're entitled to the money? I don't blame him for taking every single penny he was owed because I'd have done the exact same thing if I were in his shoes, it was the club's mistake to offer him that deal in the first place so the only ones to blame were Marina, Emenalo and any others who might have been involved in the decision to sign him. 

Edited September 2, 2022 by Jype

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

47 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Bellingham is an amazing talent. Creative and still resolute. Would be gutted to see him at Liverpool but I fear it’s inevitable 
 

What I find most interesting about dortmunds game is the brilliant football they are playing despite having a poor man’s Lukaku up front in modeste who looks completely useless and isolated 

 

How is Adeyemi doing? Would really have liked us to pick him up. Nothing proven yet but outstanding technical skills so that's the best possible base from which to build a footballer.

As for Bellingham we're not getting him. We have to take small steps and build our attractiveness to top players little by little. It's a process of multiple seasons.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

How is Adeyemi doing? Would really have liked us to pick him up. Nothing proven yet but outstanding technical skills so that's the best possible base from which to build a footballer.

As for Bellingham we're not getting him. We have to take small steps and build our attractiveness to top players little by little. It's a process of multiple seasons.

Has hardly played due to injury. Jury still out 

[Jype 6,398]

Permanent move for Batshuayi. Some Turkish media reports saying they even paid a 3,5M€ fee for him. 

Great clear out of the deadwood this summer. Barkley, Kenedy, Drinkwater, Miazga, Musonda, Clarke-Salter, Emerson, Alonso and Batshuayi all gone for good. Only Bakayoko, Baba Rahman and Sarr still remain.

[Vegetable 830]

34 minutes ago, Jype said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12647445/danny-drinkwater-on-his-Chelsea-nightmare-i-wasted-some-of-my-best-years

He had a pretty honest interview a couple months ago with Sky Sports, talked about some mental health issues and also about the football. Comes across a very decent guy to be fair.

Yeah, this is an interesting dilemma - did he accept he got the golden ticket from life by having literal boatloads of money being thrown at him for six years for doing f**k at all and living his best life or is not happy at all, as he had true footballing ambition, that ended up in a gutter. And how does he handle being rich and not having to do anything anymore in life vs being one of most hated and laughed off footballers ever?

Always intrigued me that he never just took a money and went different way in life, by starting some business or whatever, but stuck to footy and trying to rebuild himself in other clubs (but Chelsea also had a say here I guess). It can mean that he just wasn't capable of doing anything else in life or that he really tried to be decent again, but failed after all.

He partially answers it, but still, the interview is done for a reason and he probably aimed to come out with certain image there.

 

9 minutes ago, Jype said:

Baba Rahman

Gotta love it. I remember I was rather young lad playing Fifa, when Baba Rahman was in Chelsea and now I'm old prick and he's still here for next 1,5 years. And one could probably count his Chelsea games on fingers during this time. It's like he is an eternal being here, I don't think we should ever let him go.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Vegetable

[LAM09 7,056]

26 minutes ago, Jype said:

Permanent move for Batshuayi. Some Turkish media reports saying they even paid a 3,5M€ fee for him. 

Great clear out of the deadwood this summer. Barkley, Kenedy, Drinkwater, Miazga, Musonda, Clarke-Salter, Emerson, Alonso and Batshuayi all gone for good. Only Bakayoko, Baba Rahman and Sarr still remain.

Monaco will probably snap Sarr up permanently.    

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

25 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Gotta love it. I remember I was rather young lad playing Fifa, when Baba Rahman was in Chelsea and now I'm old prick and he's still here for next 1,5 years. And one could probably count his Chelsea games on fingers during this time. It's like he is an eternal being here, I don't think we should ever let him go.

When he was linked I watched video of him in Augsburg and was dead set against us signing him. Sadly, I was already an old git long before then. 😞

[Pizy 18,928]

Looking at the window as a whole with both in’s and out’s it’s honestly astounding. 

And this is the very first window this new ownership group have ever participated in. Boehly had to establish relationships and get the whole operation set up in the span of a couple of months and was still able to pull off this transfer window.

Imagine what we’ll be like once we appoint a proper DoF with world class scouts beneath him. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

12 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Looking at the window as a whole with both in’s and out’s it’s honestly astounding. 

And this is the very first window this new ownership group have ever participated in. Boehly had to establish relationships and get the whole operation set up in the span of a couple of months and was still able to pull off this transfer window.

Imagine what we’ll be like once we appoint a proper DoF with world class scouts beneath him. 

It's a good start.

[Jype 6,398]

33 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Monaco will probably snap Sarr up permanently.    

We'll see. There's an obligatory buy clause included in the loan but it will only get triggered if he plays a lot of games for them. If he doesn't perform they could easily just bury him in the stands like Milan did with Bakayoko to avoid paying a fee for the permanent transfer.

In his first start he got hooked at half time even though another one of their CBs had just gotten sent off with two yellowsso early signs aren't so great.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

I hope we get the best from him. Seems like a nice guy that is very happy to be with the club.

 

 

[Thor 2,716]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Looking at the window as a whole with both in’s and out’s it’s honestly astounding. 

And this is the very first window this new ownership group have ever participated in. Boehly had to establish relationships and get the whole operation set up in the span of a couple of months and was still able to pull off this transfer window.

Imagine what we’ll be like once we appoint a proper DoF with world class scouts beneath him. 

Agreed. 

I've loved what I have read after the fact. Management seem to be infatuated with success and share a love for the game. 

From my perspective as well, they seem to be much better at cutting ties and making these cut throat decisions to just move on instead of attempting to wait and squeeze money out of what we have. Sometimes it is better to let go, cut the wage bill and move on. That is the reality in sports. You aren't always going to make the right decision signing a player.

I think some needed to temper expectations on here as far as what we could and did achieve, since we had all these holds and bans put on us with the sanctions. The fact we have had the transfer window we had I think is spectacular. Results have been frustrating, but given all that has gone on the last 12 months, we were always going to be in for a rough ride. Time to build for the next 3 years here and create something big. It is a marathon, not a sprint. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

9 hours ago, Jype said:

In his first season Klopp took over Liverpool after GW8 with the team in 10th place. They finished 8th, gaining 48 points in 30 matches. In the following season they barely made top4, finishing only one point ahead of Arsenal and also fourth again in 17/18 with the exact same points total. They also struggled badly in 20/21, even though they just about made top4 in the end.  Would they have sacked him if they finished a couple points worse off in some of those seasons? I don't think so.

Klopp's a wonderful manager but this idea it's always been smooth sailing for him is simply not true. Especially early on there were times where they struggled just as much if not more than Tuchel has at certain points but they stuck by him and let him build up his squad in peace.

Tuchel's league form leaves a lot to be desired but in cup competitions he's worked wonders and for my money has earned himself a lot of good will in the bank. The window's just over and he's got in good players that he personally wished for but now the hard work begins. If we start falling down the table like we did under Lampard he'll eventually find himself in a position where he's under pressure to start delivering but for many reasons the start of the season (and the second half of last season) hasn't been easy. Some key injuries in midfield and some important signings being left so late in the window has definitely affected our league start but of course he can't keep riding on that excuse forever and things have to improve.

Last season Tuchel didn't yet have many of his 'own' players in the team but I'm definitely willing to give him a chance to build something of his own at the club and then see how it goes. This transfer window was a very good start going in that direction: he got in a couple of quality CBs of his own choosing, a new wing-back option, an upgrade over Werner and a striker he'll very likely prefer to Lukaku who I don't think was ever his top pick. There are still some issues to be resolved, especially the long-term midfield replacements for Kante, Jorginho as well as getting rid of Pulisic and Ziyech so a lot of work to be done but as long as we start seeing some developments in the play I'm more than willing to give Tuchel as long as he needs to complete the squad and hopefully then start competing for the EPL title. This season we just need to aim for a top-4 finish, a couple of decent cup runs and then go all-in for next season.

We had no choice but to sign 2 CB's due to the fact that the previous management allowed two quality defenders to stay at the club without signing some sort of extension on their contract (especially in Christensen's case where a 5 year and 4 year contract was tabled by the club and he outright refused to sign). 

As for the Lukaku deal, it's a bit of a head scratcher as to why that deal went ahead if the player was not Tuchel's top pick.  Surely the club wouldn't just go out and spend 97 million on an attacker without the manager's seal of approval.   

I hope for Tuchel's case that he starts delivering results sooner or later because with the amount of money spent in this window, the media will slaughter him if we're not capable of retaining our top 4 spot in the league.   Looks like it's going to be a proper fight with all of the traditional top 6 in the mix...

[Vesper 30,195]

3 hours ago, Jype said:

Only Bakayoko, Baba Rahman and Sarr still remain.

plus Lukaku, Kepa, Azpi, Ziyech, Jorginho, Pulisic (unless he steps up fast), Ampadu, Maatsen, Juan Castillo, Sam McClelland, and probably CHO

none of those are good enough to keep post summer 2023

and likely you can add Dujon Sterling (I so wish we had sold Azpi and kept him as a backup option) and Tino Anjorin (rotten luck that he got hurt right before Ralf Rangnick, then at Lokomotiv Moscow, was going to active his loan-included £17m buy option, plus then Rangnick then left for Manure) 

Edited September 2, 2022 by Vesper