NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 13 hours ago, Vesper said: Send Guiu there on loan. In January impossible. Already played for 2 clubs. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,836 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 16 hours ago, Vesper said: We Germans who know Germany and France know better what is good for the Alsatians than the unfortunates themselves. In the perversion of their French life they have no exact idea of what concerns Germany. — Heinrich von Treitschke, German nationalist historian and politician, 1871 The Franco-Prussian War, which started in July 1870, saw France defeated in May 1871 by the Kingdom of Prussia and other German states. The end of the war led to the unification of Germany. Otto von Bismarck annexed Alsace and northern Lorraine to the new German Empire in 1871. France ceded more than 90% of Alsace and one-fourth of Lorraine, as stipulated in the treaty of Frankfurt; Belfort, the largest Alsatian town south of Mulhouse, remained French. Unlike other member states of the German federation, which had governments of their own, the new Imperial territory of Alsace–Lorraine was under the sole authority of the Kaiser, administered directly by the imperial government in Berlin. Between 100,000 and 130,000 Alsatians (of a total population of about a million and a half) chose to remain French citizens and leave Reichsland Elsaß–Lothringen, many of them resettling in French Algeria as Pieds-Noirs. Only in 1911 was Alsace–Lorraine granted some measure of autonomy, which was manifested also in a flag and an anthem (Elsässisches Fahnenlied). In 1913, however, the Saverne Affair (French: Incident de Saverne) showed the limits of this new tolerance of the Alsatian identity. During the First World War, to avoid ground fights between brothers, many Alsatians served as sailors in the Kaiserliche Marine and took part in the Naval mutinies that led to the abdication of the Kaiser in November 1918, which left Alsace–Lorraine without a nominal head of state. The sailors returned home and tried to found an independent republic. While Jacques Peirotes, at this time deputy at the Landrat Elsass–Lothringen and just elected mayor of Strasbourg, proclaimed the forfeiture of the German Empire and the advent of the French Republic, a self-proclaimed government of Alsace–Lorraine declared its independence as the "Republic of Alsace–Lorraine". French troops entered Alsace less than two weeks later to quash the worker strikes and remove the newly established Soviets and revolutionaries from power. With the arrival of the French soldiers, many Alsatians and local Prussian/German administrators and bureaucrats cheered the re-establishment of order.[28] Although U.S. President Woodrow Wilson had insisted that the région was self-ruling by legal status, as its constitution had stated it was bound to the sole authority of the Kaiser and not to the German state, France would allow no plebiscite, as granted by the League of Nations to some eastern German territories at this time, because the French regarded the Alsatians as Frenchmen liberated from German rule. Germany ceded the region to France under the Treaty of Versailles. Policies forbidding the use of German and requiring French were promptly introduced.[29] In order not to antagonize the Alsatians, the region was not subjected to some legal changes that had occurred in the rest of France between 1871 and 1919, such as the 1905 French law on the separation of Church and State. Alsace–Lorraine was occupied by Germany in June 1940 during the Second World War. Although never formally annexed, Alsace and Lorraine were incorporated into the Greater German Reich. Each was placed under a Chief of Civil Administration (CdZ), who was the Nazi Party Gauleiter and Reichsstatthalter (Reich Governor) of the adjacent German territory. Alsace was administered as part of Gau Baden under Robert Heinrich Wagner and his deputy, Hermann Röhn. Lorraine was administered as part of the Gau Saarpfalz, (later Gau Westmark) under Josef Bürckel and his deputy, Ernst Ludwig Leyser [de].[30] During the war, 130,000 young men from Alsace and Lorraine were conscripted into the German armies against their will (malgré-nous). There were some volunteers for the Waffen SS.,[31] although they were outnumbered by conscripts of the 1926–1927 classes. Thirty of said Waffen SS were involved in the Oradour-sur-Glane massacre (29 conscripts, one volunteer). A third of the malgré-nous perished on the Eastern front. In July 1944, 1500 malgré-nous were released from Soviet captivity and sent to Algiers, where they joined the Free French Forces. I understand this(was a fascinating reading btw), but it's a 20 years old Dutch-Nigerian football player, maybe shouldn't have taken that seriously what he said.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 In the style of Moisés Caicedo: Chelsea and Liverpool fight for the same Ecuadorian player Liverpool has not yet decided on Joel Ordóñez, and a new team is reportedly looking to sign him. https://bolavip.com/futbol-ecuador/al-estilo-moises-caicedo-Chelsea-y-liverpool-pelean-por-el-mismo-jugador-ecuatoriano Joel Ordóñez is a player everyone in Europe likes, and several big teams have expressed interest in signing him in recent weeks . It was revealed that Liverpool sent scouts to continue watching the Ecuadorian, but another team has now joined the race. Chelsea is reportedly interested in entering another race against Liverpool for an Ecuadorian player . The London club knows they need a new defender and recently showed interest in Joel Ordóñez. Therefore, the Ecuadorian center-back has clubs like Liverpool, Chelsea, and Inter Milan closely monitoring his future. However, a decision won't be made until January or after the World Cup . Buying him in the next transfer window could be key to avoiding paying even more for him. Club Brugge wouldn't make it easy for the Ecuadorian player to leave either, as Ordóñez is a key part of their starting eleven. However, unlike last summer's transfer window, Club Brugge is now facing clubs that do have the financial resources to pay more than 40 million euros. On the other hand, Chelsea already beat Liverpool to the punch for an Ecuadorian player, securing Moisés Caicedo in 2023 and thus acquiring a player who is defining an era for his team. This move could now be repeated. Club Brugge recently renewed Joel Ordóñez's contract, giving them a significant advantage for his future sale. The Ecuadorian center-back has a long-term contract in Europe, which is always important when negotiating a transfer. Joel Ordóñez's statistics this season So far this season, Joel Ordóñez has already accumulated over 1,000 minutes on the pitch. Therefore, the Ecuadorian center-back is also on track to become one of the most consistent players for any team he joins. He has already featured in 17 matches. In summary: Chelsea joins the fight to sign Joel Ordóñez, competing with Liverpool and Inter Club Brugge would not facilitate the departure of Joel Ordóñez , whose value could exceed 40 million . Ecuadorian centre-back Joel Ordóñez has played over 1,000 minutes in 17 games this season. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,725 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 @Vesper good article, but is a ball playing defender? He might come cheap but I'm not sure if he is what we need for Maresca style of play. I would have prefer Hincapie which we did not went when he was available.... Unless I see Murillo or Bastoni I don't think no CB will take us to the next step up we need. And thus we will continue being soft in defense for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 1 minute ago, Fernando said: @Vesper good article, but is a ball playing defender? He might come cheap but I'm not sure if he is what we need for Maresca style of play. I would have prefer Hincapie which we did not went when he was available.... Unless I see Murillo or Bastoni I don't think no CB will take us to the next step up we need. And thus we will continue being soft in defense for a while. he is right-footed (Bastoni and Murillo are lefties) and is very good on the ball we need a right-footed AND a left-footed CB both need to be class Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,244 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 No briefings today about how The Club are ultimately pleased with Marescas progress? How the squad is perfect and how we will continue to buy school boys to develop into a shiny new toy for other clubs to buy? No? What’s going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,666 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 yes lets sack maresca, that would be a really good move now 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime adriano 27 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 56 minutes ago, whats happening said: yes lets sack maresca, that would be a really good move now 😒 Want to give him 5 more years to prove he isn't a championship manager ? It's clear he's awful kexik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 1 hour ago, prime adriano said: Want to give him 5 more years to prove he isn't a championship manager ? It's clear he's awful Lol just last 10 days he outplayed 2 arguably best teams on the planet. Plus is World Champion and is delivered more than asked by the board. 'We are ahead of schedule'. kexik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,775 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 Rotating 5 players is completely inexcusable, I do not care what anyone says I can take one or two but 5 is taking the piss, not only taking the piss but he is totally under estimating the opposition and has a real knack of doing so Last night was all on him for me, Chalobah RB, playing the worst CB at the club and probably in the league alongside Badshit who has hardly kicked a ball It's this simple, you pick your best 11-14 players, you destroyed Barca, you gave Arsenal the run around and then you make 5 changes to then roll out the 'protecting' and 'resting' bullshit mkh, bigbluewillie, Laylabelle and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,734 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 1 hour ago, Special Juan said: Rotating 5 players is completely inexcusable, I do not care what anyone says I can take one or two but 5 is taking the piss, not only taking the piss but he is totally under estimating the opposition and has a real knack of doing so Last night was all on him for me, Chalobah RB, playing the worst CB at the club and probably in the league alongside Badshit who has hardly kicked a ball It's this simple, you pick your best 11-14 players, you destroyed Barca, you gave Arsenal the run around and then you make 5 changes to then roll out the 'protecting' and 'resting' bullshit Exactly you play to your strengths or get found out which we have time and time again when mess things round Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 760 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 (edited) 🔵Chelsea are now leading the race to sign RB Leipzig centre-back Castello Lukeba ahead of Liverpool, Manchester United and Newcastle. Lukeba's €90M release clause initially scared off suitors - but Leipzig could now sell for around €60M in this January. (@MarkBrus) 🟢Chelsea are working on a deal for highly-rated Burkina Faso youngster Mohamed Zongo (16) ahead of competition from Manchester City and Manchester United. (@SimonJones) 🟡Chelsea are reportedly closing in on Abduljelil Kamaldeen, a 16 year old Nigerian wonderkid from Kwara Football Academy. Sources claim scouts have been impressed by his U-20 World Cup performances, with Chelsea preparing a scholarship offer to beat West Ham and Belgian clubs to his signature. (@AfricaFoot) Edited December 4, 2025 by mkh Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,666 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 5 hours ago, prime adriano said: Want to give him 5 more years to prove he isn't a championship manager ? It's clear he's awful ye lets change our manager every two seasons, that always worked out. Fernando and kexik 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 54 minutes ago, whats happening said: ye lets change our manager every two seasons, that always worked out. at least we need to give maresca the fulll season and then we need to see what will do but dont make any sense sack him now Strike and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted December 4, 2025 Share Posted December 4, 2025 2 hours ago, mkh said: 🔵Chelsea are now leading the race to sign RB Leipzig centre-back Castello Lukeba ahead of Liverpool, Manchester United and Newcastle. Lukeba's €90M release clause initially scared off suitors - but Leipzig could now sell for around €60M in this January. (@MarkBrus) 🟢Chelsea are working on a deal for highly-rated Burkina Faso youngster Mohamed Zongo (16) ahead of competition from Manchester City and Manchester United. (@SimonJones) there is a chance that we can get him in january? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted December 5, 2025 Share Posted December 5, 2025 31 minutes ago, Mário César said: there is a chance that we can get him in january? not sure if the books would still balance UNLESS we sell players as well In terms of left-footed CBs, here the only ones remotely available (in January or, more likely summer 2026 and some are CRAZY hard pulls, like my number one/number two CB want on the planet, Alessandro Bastoni, the other number one/two want being the now NOT at all available ambipedal Dean Huijsen, who went to Real Madrid and THAT just so fucked us this season, but hey, no club can compete with Real if they WANT a player badly) that I rate: 10 veterans, in 2 tiers , plus a 17 (18yo in February) youth Alessandro Bastoni Murillo Alessandro Buongiorno Jarrad Branthwaite (but is out until the end of January with a bad hamstring injury, so no way we would buy him in January) Castello Lukeba then Gonçalo Inácio Nico Schlotterbeck (will probably either renew with Dortmund or will go to Bayern) Sven Botman Evan Ndicka Konstantinos Koulierakis plus the 17yo: Honest Ahanor (EVERY 'Big 20' or so team on the planet wants him, some more than others, he is the best under 18yo CB prospect playing at Sr team level in Europe atm IMHO) Fernando and mkh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted December 5, 2025 Share Posted December 5, 2025 right-footed CBs same as my left-footed list: 2 tiers of 5 and a teen: Marc Guéhi (often plays at LCB, but he probably does not want to come back here) Leny Yoro (very hard pull) Dayot Upamecano (likely will not come here) Ousmane Diomande Joel Ordóñez then Tomás Araújo Jan Paul van Hecke Giorgio Scalvini (IF fully fit) António Silva Mohamed Simakan then a 19yo (just turned 19 four days ago) Noahkai Banks mkh and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,727 Posted December 5, 2025 Share Posted December 5, 2025 5 hours ago, Vesper said: not sure if the books would still balance UNLESS we sell players as well In terms of left-footed CBs, here the only ones remotely available (in January or, more likely summer 2026 and some are CRAZY hard pulls, like my number one/number two CB want on the planet, Alessandro Bastoni, the other number one/two want being the now NOT at all available ambipedal Dean Huijsen, who went to Real Madrid and THAT just so fucked us this season, but hey, no club can compete with Real if they WANT a player badly) that I rate: 10 veterans, in 2 tiers , plus a 17 (18yo in February) youth Alessandro Bastoni Murillo Alessandro Buongiorno Jarrad Branthwaite (but is out until the end of January with a bad hamstring injury, so no way we would buy him in January) Castello Lukeba then Gonçalo Inácio Nico Schlotterbeck (will probably either renew with Dortmund or will go to Bayern) Sven Botman Evan Ndicka Konstantinos Koulierakis plus the 17yo: Honest Ahanor (EVERY 'Big 20' or so team on the planet wants him, some more than others, he is the best under 18yo CB prospect playing at Sr team level in Europe atm IMHO) The risk of the books not being balanced, would simply mean we can't register them for Europe right? Still would keep someone for the league. Although, if Maresca and the directors gave more chances to Acheampong, we could manage until end of the season (assuming Fofana also stays fit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted December 5, 2025 Share Posted December 5, 2025 1 hour ago, Blue Armour said: The risk of the books not being balanced, would simply mean we can't register them for Europe right? Still would keep someone for the league. Although, if Maresca and the directors gave more chances to Acheampong, we could manage until end of the season (assuming Fofana also stays fit) No, if we run afoul of UEFA FFP we cannot play in any UEFA competition Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 760 Posted December 5, 2025 Share Posted December 5, 2025 Enzo Maresca on Romeo Lavia: "It's a muscle problem. We don't know yet when he can be back. We don't know [whether it's long or short term]." (@BobbyVincentFL) 🔴🔴🤒😣 Vesper and bigbluewillie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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