Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 (edited) 36 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Tbh, the champions league win under TT kinda masks the fact we was in decline well before these owners took over Sadly that’s true. We have not won any domestic title since 2018 (lost I think 7 domestic finals in a row). But we also did not have any elite coach in that time apart from Tuchel. I believe an experienced manager would be able to get a bit more out of this squad which clearly is talented but lacks guidance even now but that is apparently not on the cards either. The Nkunku signing and the maignan pursuit have shown that the owners are willing to at least look at players over 25 if they think it is still good value. But clearly their bias for youth is void of any footballing knowledge behind it and purely an economic consideration. All we can do is hope that by chance they sign some 24 yo who indeed is exceptionally mature for his age and able to provide leadership. what I find just as odd is that we have a manager who prefers slow possession based football, whereas almost all our past and prospective attacking signings are athletic speed demons who are best suited to a counter attacking style which we witnessed to have great effect during the first few months of last season. Edited June 16, 2025 by Magic Lamps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 5 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: That last link should say "former Real Madrid youth defender" https://metro.co.uk/2025/06/15/Chelsea-make-30m-transfer-bid-former-real-madrid-defender-23420752/ Chelsea have made a 35m euros (£30m) bid for former Real Madrid defender Mario Gila, according to reports in Italy. Gila, 24, spent three years in Real Madrid’s reserve team before making his first-team debut for Los Blancos during the 2021-22 campaign. The former Spain U21 star only made one more appearance for Real Madrid, however, before being sold to Lazio in the summer of 2022. Lazio spent £5m to sign Gila from Real Madrid and the centre-back has been a mainstay in the team over the past two seasons. Gila made over 40 appearances last season as Lazio finished seventh in Serie A and reached the quarter-finals of the Europa League. Lazio boss Maurizio Sarri, who previously managed Chelsea, does not want to lose the Spaniard this summer but a number of clubs are interested in a deal. Italian outlet Il Messaggero say Chelsea, Tottenham, Bournemouth and PSG have all expressed interest in signing Gila. They also claim that Chelsea have already made an offer worth £30m, which was quickly rejected by Lazio. Lazio are also believed to have rejected a £35m bid from Bournemouth but will be prepared to sell if they receive an offer in the region of £50m. Gila is yet to represent Spain but was included in the senior squad for their Nations League quarter-final against Netherlands earlier in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 EXCLUSIVE..... Bayern Munich make enquiry to sign Chelsea defender Chelsea could listen... https://siphillipstalkschelsea.substack.com/p/exclusive-bayern-munich-make-enquiry snip SPTC sources understand Bayern have made an enquiry to Chelsea regarding right back Malo Gusto for a potential move to the Bundesliga this summer. We have not heard what Chelsea’s official stance on Gusto is yet, but there is a belief from sources that they are likely to at least listen to the approach that is coming in and it wouldn’t be a phone down situation immediately. Chelsea have Gusto as Reece James’ main backup right now but there is a lot of belief in academy graduate Josh Acheampong, and this is why the club could be willing to sell Gusto and put their faith in the 19-year-old rising star. Acheampong would then step in as James’ main backup at right back and Gusto would be allowed to move on. I do believe it would have to be a pretty decent offer though for Chelsea to allow Gusto to move, but certainly not far-fetched at all. If Gusto is not sold, then we are also hearing that there are now a few Premier League clubs enquiring about taking Acheampong on loan this season, something that is very likely to happen in this scenario. We’ve also heard that it’s the same situation for Tyrique George, who when Chelsea sign more wingers/attackers, he is most likely going to go out on loan and has serious interest coming in. snip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 top 15 CB valuations updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 748 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 BREAKING: Chelsea officials have called Lyon for Malick Fofana. The 20-year-old Belgian winger is valued at around €50m by the French club. (@lequipe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,249 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 Who the fuck is Malick Fofana? Stats and Reddish-Blue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,085 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 6 minutes ago, Pizy said: Who the fuck is Malick Fofana? A WF who joined Lyon last summer. I guess we really aren't going for proven attacking players again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 748 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 Malick Fofana Europa League numbers this season (amongst wingers in the competition) 🔹1.25 goals per 90 (1st) 🔹2.29 shots per 90 🔹1.88 shots on target per 90 (2nd) 🔹81% shot accuracy 🔹0.45 xG per 90 (4th) 🔹3.96 take-ons attempted 🔹1.67 take-one completed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 748 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 M.Fofana seems to be the alternative for Gittens. they have an almost identical data profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 48 minutes ago, Pizy said: Who the fuck is Malick Fofana? Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,249 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 Gittens, Garnacho, and Malick Fofana. Not exactly confidence inspiring choices, imo. I honestly feel like we’re just going to replace Sancho whose production was really disappointing with another winger who will put up disappointing numbers. But also cost tens of millions more than Sancho would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 Chelsea still in for Premier League defender This one isn't over... https://siphillipstalkschelsea.substack.com/p/sources-Chelsea-still-in-for-premier There are a few transfer situations that are far from over yet, but you’d be forgiven for thinking that they are. It’s been a confusing summer so far in the transfer market purely because of the transfer window pointlessly being split in two. The first window was open for just 10 days, closed for 6, and is now open again until September the 1st. So clubs can now go ahead and buy and sell players once again. But what it did was it made clubs become very tough with their players and refused to sell them for lower prices because they knew they had strength in negotiations with buying clubs trying to get the players in for the Club World Cup. It wasn’t a smart idea to do these two windows really. But it’s open properly now and expect some business and a long old summer of speculation and drama! Chelsea want a number of new positions in the door still, and one of those is centre back. We all heard about the story on Jarrad Branthwaite, as we reported it exclusively on this site. The mainstream media soon played this one down and made it seem like Chelsea were not pursuing him. Well, they were, and they still are. SPTC sources have heard that Chelsea are still in for Branthwaite and it may well be one that sparks back up again in the latter part of the window. After Dean Huijsen, Chelsea looked at Branthwaite as a priority. They approached Everton but were quoted a fee that they believed to be too high of around £80m-£85m. But during these talks they sensed that something could be done here for Branthwaite and feel that there’s a deal there that they could get done. So there’s a feeling that Chelsea might return here. Enzo Maresca backs any move for Branthwaite as well. Of course, The Blues have many other centre back targets, and the noise on Tomas Aruajo of Benfica is all true, as we have reported here many times now. Marc Guehi is still of interest, and the Jorrel Hato stuff is still there. It’s unclear whether Chelsea see him as more of a Marc Cucurella backup or a centre back, although the aforementioned is most likely for now. I heard last night on Hato that Chelsea will hold more talks for him a bit later in the window now. So this is one situation that has not gone anywhere but as reported, Chelsea have just put it a bit on the back burner for now as they prioritise the attack upon Maresca’s request. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 25 minutes ago, Pizy said: Gittens, Garnacho, and Malick Fofana. Not exactly confidence inspiring choices, imo. I honestly feel like we’re just going to replace Sancho whose production was really disappointing with another winger who will put up disappointing numbers. But also cost tens of millions more than Sancho would have. Who was you hoping for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,249 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 25 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Who was you hoping for If we’re dead set on signing only young talents why not throw everything at Morgan Rogers? At least he’s PL proven and is right in line with our obsession with former City youth. And for me he’s actually got top tier potential unlike some of these other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 6 minutes ago, Pizy said: If we’re dead set on signing only young talents why not throw everything at Morgan Rogers? At least he’s PL proven and is right in line with our obsession with former City youth. And for me he’s actually got top tier potential unlike some of these other guys. What makes you think Roger’s would want to come here for a start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,249 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 6 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: What makes you think Roger’s would want to come here for a start? Best mates with Palmer, good mates with a bunch of our players, UCL football, much higher profile club. If we made an effort there’s no way he’d turn us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 4 minutes ago, Pizy said: Gittens, Garnacho, and Malick Fofana. Not exactly confidence inspiring choices, imo. I honestly feel like we’re just going to replace Sancho whose production was really disappointing with another winger who will put up disappointing numbers. But also cost tens of millions more than Sancho would have. right footed or ambipedal wingers still technically available in order of my prefernce some are pipe dreams Jamal Musiala Rodrygo Xavi Simons Morgan Rogers Kenan Yildiz Antoine Semenyo Nico Williams Rafael Leão Jamie Gittens Malick Fofana Jesus Rodriguez no to Garnacho Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: Sadly that’s true. We have not won any domestic title since 2018 (lost I think 7 domestic finals in a row). But we also did not have any elite coach in that time apart from Tuchel. I believe an experienced manager would be able to get a bit more out of this squad which clearly is talented but lacks guidance even now but that is apparently not on the cards either. The Nkunku signing and the maignan pursuit have shown that the owners are willing to at least look at players over 25 if they think it is still good value. But clearly their bias for youth is void of any footballing knowledge behind it and purely an economic consideration. All we can do is hope that by chance they sign some 24 yo who indeed is exceptionally mature for his age and able to provide leadership. what I find just as odd is that we have a manager who prefers slow possession based football, whereas almost all our past and prospective attacking signings are athletic speed demons who are best suited to a counter attacking style which we witnessed to have great effect during the first few months of last season. 100%. Maresca is one of those managers so welded to his philosophy that he cannot adapt. Every game with him it is the same repetitions with the idea that if you do the same thing over and over you'll become elite as if you dominate possesion you technically cannot lose. Instead the truth of the matter is that he was essentially a Pep minion who was tasked with training his teams to work on possession and as a result cannot see the shifts in games or how you adapt to your opponent - hence why we always play down to the level of whoever we are playing but just try to 'keep possession' better. Overall strategy isn't his thing as he just cares about possession above all else, not only is it absolutely mind numbing it is also incredibly inhibiting. Edited June 16, 2025 by King Kante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted June 16, 2025 Share Posted June 16, 2025 3 hours ago, Vesper said: right footed or ambipedal wingers still technically available in order of my prefernce some are pipe dreams Jamal Musiala Rodrygo Xavi Simons Morgan Rogers Kenan Yildiz Antoine Semenyo Nico Williams Rafael Leão Jamie Gittens Malick Fofana Jesus Rodriguez no to Garnacho I'll get blasted for this, but I'm a big fan of both Semenyo and Fofana. Fofana, not in terms of quality right now, but looks much like a young Salah - although his finishing and decision making even now is really, really good. Always impressed with him when he plays. Semenyo and Rogers would be great - but I do wonder if Rogers is impactful down the left? He's always seemed to thrive in the middle role more so? Rogers would be a dream signing, but is it us trying to fit him in without taking into account his best position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted June 17, 2025 Share Posted June 17, 2025 10 hours ago, DDA said: Done really well with the attacking talent??? Who are you referring to exactly? Bar Cole Palmer, who have these guys brought in that is truly Chelsea level? I’m struggling to think of one player…. When i say Chelsea level, I’m talking about the level Roman built us up to.. not this bang average mentality being installed by the new owners who have fans like yourself willing subscribing to. Let's not pretend under Roman signings were always spot on. Especially in attack. Drogba, Costa were great and Giroud was solid buy. How many flops? Way much more. Kezman, Shevchenko, Torres, Morata, Lukaku, Havertz, Werner... Hazard was world class winger but after that who was most played there? Malouda, Kalou, Willian... Neto is more ambitious and expensive signing. Estevao highly rated teen just like Quenda. This board loaned Sancho for 5m but under Roman we almost bought him for over 100m and majority fans wanted that. Hopefully this summer we catch good LW because we lack there. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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