Chelsea Transfers

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Nail on head. But you cant argue with stupidity it would seem.

People have definitely got their head in the sand when it comes to this ownership & sporting directors.

Cannot wait to these cunts sell up.

Nail on the head in your opinion, and arguing with stupidity? Why? Because people have a different opinion to your self so they are stupid? do you have any idea how arrogant that is? What makes your opinion right and others wrong especially when all opinions are based on feelings, stupidity would be expecting every one to agree with u at all times and not thinking the way you think must make them stupid? 

[robsblubot 3,595]

2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

CL knockout run aside (which is just 7 games) I don't see much difference. 

 

Also, just for historical accuracy, in the 21/22 PL he had 11 goals and 10 assists in 32 matches.
So, the narrative that he "only" had those 7 CL games is pretty much incorrect.

On the other hand, if his current form and fitness are his norm, then the club was right in not making the effort to renew his deal.

Conor hasn't really done a whole lot for the club any way you look at it.

Edited August 1, 2024 by robsblubot

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

49 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Nail on the head in your opinion, and arguing with stupidity? Why? Because people have a different opinion to your self so they are stupid? do you have any idea how arrogant that is? What makes your opinion right and others wrong especially when all opinions are based on feelings, stupidity would be expecting every one to agree with u at all times and not thinking the way you think must make them stupid? 

Maybe comes across as arrogant but regarding the Gallagher situation, how people cannot or will not see that the whole saga this past 12 months and more so this 2+1 contract offer is a ploy to strengthen the clubs position so they can actively try to offload/force the player to leave is beyond me. Like it really is.

And even signing KDH & Tosin also when we have Gallagher & Trev, as King Kante said these aren’t upgrades. These are just needless signings. We already have these calibre of players on the books who in all likelihood would be squad players so whats the need? Theres so many more pressing concerns in the squad that keep being neglected.

But folk have already fallen for enough with these guys so suppose shouldn’t expect any less. As you can see on here, this has already got a lot of folk thinking Gallagher is in the wrong for rejecting what you could say is an embarrassing/disrespectful contract offer with regards to the duration. Or that he should even be grateful in the fucking first place. If this is how academy players were treated at any other clubs, we would be laughing and being hugely critical of those clubs. Club is becoming a laughing stock.

Edited August 1, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

12 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Maybe comes across as arrogant but regarding the Gallagher situation, how people cannot or will not see that the whole saga this past 12 months and more so this 2+1 contract offer is a ploy to strengthen the clubs position so they can actively try to offload/force the player to leave is beyond me. Like it really is.

And even signing KDH & Tosin also when we have Gallagher & Trev, as King Kante said these aren’t upgrades. These are just needless signings. We already have these calibre of players on the books who in all likelihood would be squad players so whats the need? Theres so many more pressing concerns in the squad that keep being neglected.

But folk have already fallen for enough with these guys so suppose shouldn’t expect any less. As you can see on here, this has already got a lot of folk thinking Gallagher is in the wrong for rejecting what you could say is an embarrassing/disrespectful contract offer with regards to the duration. Or that he should even be grateful in the fucking first place. If this is how academy players were treated at any other clubs, we would be laughing and being hugely critical of those clubs. Club is becoming a laughing stock.

Tbh as far as laughing stock goes, most opposite fans I speak to, and working on building sites is alot of different supports from lots of clubs actually like what we are doing and see us as a huge threat.

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

1 hour ago, King Kante said:

or are they saying they don't see him being much worse than those that we are buying and the contract he has been given shows the club do not value him? Big difference.

People keep referencing the contract offered as 'not valuing him' but they offered to make him one of the highest paid midfielders at the club and these are reports coming from Ornstein, Romano. 

There's every chance they could have offered him a nice 5 year deal (as most of the people here are mentioning) but there's no guarantee that they would have given those sorts of wages.  

[Mário César 1,278]

2 years plus 1 option it is a very fair deal, tbh

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

23 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

People keep referencing the contract offered as 'not valuing him' but they offered to make him one of the highest paid midfielders at the club and these are reports coming from Ornstein, Romano. 

There's every chance they could have offered him a nice 5 year deal (as most of the people here are mentioning) but there's no guarantee that they would have given those sorts of wages.  

Yes but do people actually think he’s rejected the deals due to the money? 😳😂

Lets be frank, clubs don’t normally offer someone a long term deal then accept a £50m bid from a club for them weeks later. Not if they really want to keep the player.

And then when the player rejects their proposal and the player doesn’t want to move, they don’t go from talking about renewing the player on a long term deal to making another offer of a 2 year fixed deal with an optional 3rd year…. The guys 24 years old not 32.

The financial package, that story was coincidentally mentioned by various journalists with close links to the club at the same time as the Atletico story broke. Have the club put this info out and trying to make it look like they’ve done all they can to save face when he inevitably leaves? I think so.

Edited August 1, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Club trying to make it look like they’ve done all they can to save face? I think so.

Or clubs offered him the contract he said no, so they accepted a bid........

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Just now, YorkshireBlue said:

Or clubs offered him the contract he said no, so they accepted a bid........

Yes sure because a 2 year deal is a serious and respectable offer to make to a 24 year old player who was ever present last season captaining the side on multiple occasions. Nothing to do with he is someone they’ve been actively trying to sell… 

Although maybe thats Clownlakes new policy now? Going from offering 5-7 year deals with the option of another year, to 2 year deals with the option of another year.

[Wise Old Man 38]

Just now, OneMoSalah said:

Yes sure because a 2 year deal is a serious and respectable offer to make to a 24 year old player who was ever present last season captaining the side on multiple occasions. Nothing to do with he is someone they’ve been actively trying to sell… 

Although maybe thats Clownlakes new policy now? Going from offering 5-7 year deals with the option of another year, to 2 year deals with the option of another year.

He’s not very good and is a poor fit for the new system , why should he get a massive deal ?

[Pizy 18,928]

If Gallagher had the exact same season he just had for West Ham or Everton or Bournemouth and we were linked with him for £50m or even £35m our entire fanbase would be in Chernobyl level meltdown. And if one of our rivals were doing the same we’d be laughing at them for buying him instead of a truly elite level midfielder. 
 

 

[NikkiCFC 8,327]

5 minutes ago, Wise Old Man said:

He’s not very good and is a poor fit for the new system , why should he get a massive deal ?

I admit Gallagher is not suited for new system but he has beautiful hair so it's worth keeping. There's a sentiment involved with him. 

[NikkiCFC 8,327]

1 hour ago, robsblubot said:

Also, just for historical accuracy, in the 21/22 PL he had 11 goals and 10 assists in 32 matches.
So, the narrative that he "only" had those 7 CL games is pretty much incorrect.

On the other hand, if his current form and fitness are his norm, then the club was right in not making the effort to renew his deal.

Conor hasn't really done a whole lot for the club any way you look at it.

10 of those 11 goals came against teams from 16th place to 20th. 4 against worst team Norwich. I spoke a lot about Mount first 3 seasons and narrative was always he scores rarely and only against worst teams and majority assists come from set pieces. Always believed he was Championship player but uncle Frank made him a career although he is exposed last couple of years. 

Also find it surprising that you are rating him considering you are Brazilian who traditionally are all about Joga Bonito 🤙 He is the opposite, without talent and just industrial work horse which when said about attacker is horrible. If born in Brazil he wouldn't be allowed to play beach football. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

30 minutes ago, Wise Old Man said:

He’s not very good and is a poor fit for the new system , why should he get a massive deal ?

Maybe he will be a poor fit - don’t necessarily think that as such - but regardless there is a way of doing things. Sends the wrong message dicking him about with this daft 2 year contract offer that realistically no professional footballer of his age with an ounce of self respect would sign.

Was the same shit with Mason in February 2023 with that 200k p/week 1 year extension offer - although was a bit different as he’d made it clear he wouldn’t resign for wages on offer. The club tried to spin it as a way to take pressure off of contract negotiations and said they would renegotiate further down the line which was bull, they just wanted more leverage to demand a higher fee when it came to selling him. 

Its blatantly obvious what they are trying to do with Conor and looks like they will finally get what they want - although not for £50m - as Atletico move sounds like it may happen. Lets just hope that it works out but the club are more than likely trying to save face by informing the media about how it was a top financial packages in line with other high earning players at the club etc. I mean why else would details like that miraculously make it to the press 👍?

30 minutes ago, Pizy said:

If Gallagher had the exact same season he just had for West Ham or Everton or Bournemouth and we were linked with him for £50m or even £35m our entire fanbase would be in Chernobyl level meltdown. And if one of our rivals were doing them same we’d be laughing at them for buying him instead of a truly elite level midfielder. 

Again missing the point….

And even then, Conor was one of our best players last season so not sure what you’re trying to prove here with such a statement?

Could say if anyone of our players (barring a handful) had the same season they had last season for another club ie. WHU or Bournemouth, we wouldn’t consider signing them for £35m or £50m…. and some of these guys cost a lot more than that!

Edited August 1, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

And even then, Conor was one of our best players last season so not sure what you’re trying to prove here with such a statement?

Connor was one of our best players last season because he suited poch, just ran and ran and ran and he was the perfect player for the way poch wants his teams to play, he's also a perfect fit for A Madrid, are you saying you want Connor to stay or are you happy with him leaving? Because if you want him to stay why? If u like him surely you want him to go and actually play for a team he will thrive in rather than sitting on the bench to rot? 

[NikkiCFC 8,327]

Tbh Gallagher should leave because majority of fans still didn't learn his name is with just one 'n'

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

25 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Connor was one of our best players last season because he suited poch, just ran and ran and ran and he was the perfect player for the way poch wants his teams to play, he's also a perfect fit for A Madrid, are you saying you want Connor to stay or are you happy with him leaving? Because if you want him to stay why? If u like him surely you want him to go and actually play for a team he will thrive in rather than sitting on the bench to rot? 

I mean its clear he will be leaving. I think him staying would have saved us needlessly spending £30m on KDH that could have been spent elsewhere. Also just like Chalobah and Disasi last summer. Needless spending on players that don’t make a real improvement on what we already have for whatever reason.

Based on what I saw v Club America from KDH he just looked like a link player between midfield and attack, looked to run beyond the attackers at times and get in to the box. Tell me what role did Conor play last season? More of less the exact same one. I suppose when we sell Broja we will probably spend whatever we get for him on a homegrown CF of the same calibre too? 

The whole way that people are turning this into a Gallagher is being greedy/wrong/should be grateful he even got an offer narrative etc when he’s being actively forced out the door is ludicrous though. I mean if this is how the club are going to continue treating academy players to comply with financial issues due to scattergun spending then they deserve every bit of criticism they have and will continue to get. 

Edited August 1, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[Pizy 18,928]

43 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Maybe he will be a poor fit - don’t necessarily think that as such - but regardless there is a way of doing things. Sends the wrong message dicking him about with this daft 2 year contract offer that realistically no professional footballer of his age with an ounce of self respect would sign.

Was the same shit with Mason in February 2023 with that 200k p/week 1 year extension offer - although was a bit different as he’d made it clear he wouldn’t resign for wages on offer. The club tried to spin it as a way to take pressure off of contract negotiations and said they would renegotiate further down the line which was bull, they just wanted more leverage to demand a higher fee when it came to selling him. 

Its blatantly obvious what they are trying to do with Conor and looks like they will finally get what they want - although not for £50m - as Atletico move sounds like it may happen. Lets just hope that it works out but the club are more than likely trying to save face by informing the media about how it was a top financial packages in line with other high earning players at the club etc. I mean why else would details like that miraculously make it to the press 👍?

Again missing the point….

And even then, Conor was one of our best players last season so not sure what you’re trying to prove here with such a statement?

Could say if anyone of our players (barring a handful) had the same season they had last season for another club ie. WHU or Bournemouth, we wouldn’t consider signing them for £35m or £50m…. and some of these guys cost a lot more than that!

 

36 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Connor was one of our best players last season because he suited poch, just ran and ran and ran and he was the perfect player for the way poch wants his teams to play, he's also a perfect fit for A Madrid, are you saying you want Connor to stay or are you happy with him leaving? Because if you want him to stay why? If u like him surely you want him to go and actually play for a team he will thrive in rather than sitting on the bench to rot? 

Spot on, @YorkshireBlue. Repeatedly saying “he was one of our best players” in a season in which we were dogshit for much of it isn’t some massive achievement. He thrived is a chaotic, system-less team.

Again, he is a good player. He’ll run around nonstop, disrupt play, work his socks off, and chip in with a rare goal or assist. He is a pure “passion player.”  Someone who, if you watched him playing for a lesser team, you’d say “yeah, he’s a solid midtable midfielder.” 

[LAM09 7,056]

17 hours ago, Strike said:

We tried to sell him for a decent price but he didn’t move. Now we sell him this month or risk getting nothing. How are people believing we will get any more money for Connor? There is no market 

We're talking about the present, not the past. I don't know where you are getting the idea that Atletico is the ONLY team interested in him. If Gallagher thinks he's better than the likes of Palace or West Ham, that's a whole different story in itself.

Recent developments mean it's only a matter of time till he leaves regardless of how low the offer might be.

Edited August 2, 2024 by LAM09

[DDA 9,941]

Rejected 2 offers.. the guy has heart but comon lad, chill your beans. Time to run your heart out for Diego.