Chelsea Transfers

[ZAPHOD2319 4,943]

 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

So now apparently after left footed wingers, gks in the 20m range are clownlake‘s favourite toy of the month

what‘s next, which other position are we already stacked  ? Another young rightback now? No that would make too much sense. Let’s dump another 100m on an average 21 yo DM  

[OneMoSalah 9,096]

3 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Maybe KDH and Maresca were actually close at Leicester and he was keen on following his manager... it's not like we are short on midfielders, guys like Santos, Ugo, Carney were like 20+ million transfers. 

We aren’t short on midfielders - exactly! You said it. So why have we signed a player who isn’t a real upgrade on anyone who played regularly in that position last year? For all the moaning about Gallagher, he’s already here and a better player… its not like we signed a top midfielder, its some guy from Leicester who looked very average playing in the PL under Brendan Rodgers. 

3 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Reece, Cucurella, Gusto, Colwill, Enzo, Caicedo, Lavia, Palmer could easily go elsewhere. 

The problem is, the rest of the squad is one of the weakest I've seen at Chelsea in a long long time, particularly in key positions such as GK, CB, ST.   We really went from Cudicini/Cech/Courtois to Kepa then to reserve team GK's in Sanchez/Petrovic.   

A huge % of people (and users here) were saying we should sell Cucurella and that he wasn’t good enough to play here. Now after winning the Euros he is good enough? Maybe not you in particular but there was a huge huge disdain that he was signed for that fee and that he wasn’t good enough. 

There is maybe a handful of quality players in this squad, who have shown it regularly/consistently. Palmer and James really are the only ones who have a realistic chance of playing at most of those teams. And Palmer couldn’t get in the City team…. which is why he left. Levi will be elite for sure one day too but not yet. 

Not having it that Enzo, Caicedo or Lavia in particular would play at those teams. Not on what they’ve done here. For the best part of £300m they have been so average/blown hot and cold (or in Lavia’s case injured) it’s unbelievable. I mean Palmer looked outstanding in one of the worst Chelsea sides of the past 10 years. Why hasn’t Enzo or Caicedo? For me its because they haven’t been anywhere near good enough. 

Not to say that they won’t come very good players who will be at this elite standard (although I doubt Lavia ever will as was always skeptical on hin) but to say that they’d be playing at the level of the likes of Rodri, Vitinha, Rice, Tchouameni, Camavinga, Modric etc to play at these clubs in the other post is for me, a bit laughable.

I agree - GK, CB, CF is still huge issues and will continue to be based on our recent history with signings under Clownlake. Without shadow of a doubt. But 60-65% of our probable 25 squad aren’t gonna be up to the level to be playing at elite clubs in any capacity. And this is with the ownership/directors that believe a 6th place finish wasn’t good enough because “this is a CL level squad”…

 

Edited July 31, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[chelsea_4_eva 1,186]

It seems like we spent almost 1B for players but our squad looks far from 1B in value...

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

2 hours ago, Hamilton said:

Loan back I guess?

Yes

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

9 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

We aren’t short on midfielders - exactly! You said it. So why have we signed a player who isn’t a real upgrade on anyone who played regularly in that position last year? For all the moaning about Gallagher, he’s already here and a better player… its not like we signed a top midfielder, its some guy from Leicester who looked very average playing in the PL under Brendan Rodgers. 

A huge % of people (and users here) were saying we should sell Cucurella and that he wasn’t good enough to play here. Now after winning the Euros he is good enough? Maybe not you in particular but there was a huge huge disdain that he was signed for that fee and that he wasn’t good enough. 

There is maybe a handful of quality players in this squad, who have shown it regularly/consistently. Palmer and James really are the only ones who have a realistic chance of playing at most of those teams. And Palmer couldn’t get in the City team…. which is why he left. Levi will be elite for sure one day too but not yet. 

Not having it that Enzo, Caicedo or Lavia in particular would play at those teams. Not on what they’ve done here. For the best part of £300m they have been so average/blown hot and cold (or in Lavia’s case injured) it’s unbelievable. I mean Palmer looked outstanding in one of the worst Chelsea sides of the past 10 years. Why hasn’t Enzo or Caicedo? For me its because they haven’t been anywhere near good enough. 

Not to say that they won’t come very good players who will be at this elite standard (although I doubt Lavia ever will as was always skeptical on hin) but to say that they’d be playing at the level of the likes of Rodri, Vitinha, Rice, Tchouameni, Camavinga, Modric etc to play at these clubs in the other post is for me, a bit laughable.

I agree - GK, CB, CF is still huge issues and will continue to be based on our recent history with signings under Clownlake. Without shadow of a doubt. But 60-65% of our probable 25 squad aren’t gonna be up to the level to be playing at elite clubs in any capacity. And this is with the ownership/directors that believe a 6th place finish wasn’t good enough because “this is a CL level squad”…

 

How can GKs be an issue? Chelsea just bought two 20M+ GKs in the last 24 hours. Jörgensen & Penders

[Thor 2,819]

You almost forget we were a shitty call against Villa away from top 4 on here. 

[LAM09 7,087]

8 hours ago, Strike said:

Smith Rowe had 2 years left on his deal. Gallagher has 1.

I can see Villa or Spurs matching Atletico's offer this week though. 35m pounds 

EMR played 13 league games last season and did not score a goal. Gallagher, on the other hand, played 37 league games, scored five goals, and is an English INT player.

Are you telling me that one year puts them on par in terms of value?

Also, our asking price is €35m~. Crazy!

Edited July 31, 2024 by LAM09

[Pizy 19,270]

The massive overrating of Gallagher and complete dismissal of KDH before he’s even kicked a ball for us in the PL is crazy.

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,399]

8 hours ago, Strike said:

Smith Rowe had 2 years left on his deal. Gallagher has 1.

I can see Villa or Spurs matching Atletico's offer this week though. 35m pounds 

35m likely exclusive only to clubs outside the Premier League. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,344]

58 minutes ago, Pizy said:

The massive overrating of Gallagher and complete dismissal of KDH before he’s even kicked a ball for us in the PL is crazy.

 

It's the kids kicking off for not getting the fancy new toys they want mentality.

Edited July 31, 2024 by YorkshireBlue

[Pizy 19,270]

If we were still playing Pochball with no discernible playing style but instead just ran around like headless chickens then I could understand really wanting Gallagher to stay because he thrived in that system. But if we want to eventually get to a place where we play the sort of football like City & Arse do (which obviously we do because we now have a coach from the same family tree) then he is unsuited to that style.

[YorkshireBlue 3,344]

25 minutes ago, Pizy said:

If we were still playing Pochball with no discernible playing style but instead just ran around like headless chickens then I could understand really wanting Gallagher to stay because he thrived in that system. But if we want to eventually get to a place where we play the sort of football like City & Arse do (which obviously we do because we now have a coach from the same family tree) then he is unsuited to that style.

It amazes me the amount of times last season we heard, "he's not technical enough, all he does is run" now we are playing a system that requires technical skill, people want him to stay! This is why I'm convinced some on here either just moan for the sake of it, are just miserable irl or trolling, because you cant moan he's not technical enough then want to keep him for a role that requires him to be technical 🤯

[robsblubot 3,595]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

The massive overrating of Gallagher and complete dismissal of KDH before he’s even kicked a ball for us in the PL is crazy.

 

Agreed.
The caveat being that I fully expect KDH to needing some time to adapt given that he's now playing against better players, who would provide far less time on the ball than what he was enjoying before.

I keep hearing better/same when talking about KDH and Conor, but I think it's more about characteristics than anything else. Had we hired a different manager, with a different philosophy, and he might have asked for Conor to stay and become an important player for him (Poch?).

Maresca clearly needs a different type in midfielder, which is why KDH is here. 

Edited July 31, 2024 by robsblubot

[YorkshireBlue 3,344]

1 minute ago, robsblubot said:

Agreed.
The caveat being that I fully expect KDH to needing some time to adapt given that he's now playing against better players, who would provide far less time on the ball than what he was enjoying before.

I keep hearing better/same when talking about KDH and Conor, but I think it's more about characteristics than anything else. Had we hired a different manager, with a different philosophy, and he might have asked for Conor to stay and become an important player for him (Poch?).

Maresca clearly needs a different type in midfielder, which is why KDH is here. 

Yeah, one that can do all the things people on here moaned about Connor not been able to do last season 🤣

[robsblubot 3,595]

47 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Yeah, one that can do all the things people on here moaned about Connor not been able to do last season 🤣

hah true.

I think the most vocal about that was Lucio (I sense his wisdom nearby 😅), but I don't think many of us would consider Conor a super skillful player or a "passing machine."
I'm hopeful for KDH, with the caveat already stated (bit of patience).

Edited July 31, 2024 by robsblubot

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51 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

hah true.

I think the most vocal about that was Lucio (I sense his wisdom nearby 😅), but I don't think many of us would consider Conor a super skillful player or a "passing machine."
I'm hopeful for KDH, with the caveat already stated (bit of patience).

I watched a highlights video on YouTube (not ideal) but his passing range and through balls were excellent, something Connor lacks in abundance 

[Pizy 19,270]

59 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Agreed.
The caveat being that I fully expect KDH to needing some time to adapt given that he's now playing against better players, who would provide far less time on the ball than what he was enjoying before.

I keep hearing better/same when talking about KDH and Conor, but I think it's more about characteristics than anything else. Had we hired a different manager, with a different philosophy, and he might have asked for Conor to stay and become an important player for him (Poch?).

Maresca clearly needs a different type in midfielder, which is why KDH is here. 

Of all the players we have or will bring in I’m most confident that KDH won’t need too long to settle in. True, he’s playing against much better players now than he was last season but he’ll also be playing with much better players which should hopefully let him show his levels sooner.

The thing from watching footage of KDH you can immediately see he’s vastly superior to Conor at is both receiving and carry the ball between the lines. He’s super tidy and technical. Whereas Conor isn’t a quick thinking player on the ball. He isn’t the sort of guy with that silky technical ability and needs a couple of seconds on the ball and some space to operate effectively. If you press him touch tight you can get him to turn the ball over.

If we still employed a Poch/Conte/Mourinho who prioritizes athleticism and work rate then Gallagher is your guy. There’s a reason why he is Simeone’s #1 priority target now. He’s tailor made for an aggressive, physical side. He is NOT suited to a team that wants to play Pep/Arteta football.

[DDA 10,215]

Thought we were going all in for Alvarez 👀

[robsblubot 3,595]

14 minutes ago, DDA said:

Thought we were going all in for Alvarez 👀

If we don't get him, he must NOT go to Arsenal. 😓

Hopefully Guardiola/City would think the same way.

Edited July 31, 2024 by robsblubot