Chelsea Transfers

[shrenshah 186]

Knock knock brighton

Hpw much for evan ferguson

[robsblubot 3,595]

Just now, shrenshah said:

Knock knock brighton

Hpw much for evan ferguson

I'm sure we can find someone.... younger! He's already 18yo and way too old for 2028's Olympics. 

[Vesper 30,151]

1 minute ago, shrenshah said:

Knock knock brighton

Hpw much for evan ferguson

£120m WAS his price this window, but.............

dog knows what it will be if he bangs in 25 or 30 or more goals all comps

[Thor 2,693]

All throughout last season it was constantly "once we get this guy, we'll be back amongst the top". 

Same thing is happening now that we've had a few injuries. 

I'm sorry - but winning games against bottom of the ladder teams being dependent on Nkunku playing or not is not the signs of a top team. 

 

We have the talent. We do. People think these players are suddenly shit or not good enough... No. We suffer from a lethargy/confidence issue. That will take time. It isn't about "just one more player". 

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Forest inbounds this summer  
     
Ibrahim Sangaré     Defensive Midfield
Anthony Elanga    Left Winger
Chris Wood    Centre-Forward
Andrew Omobamidele    Centre-Back
Murillo  Centre-Back
Nicolás Domínguez   Central Midfield
Odysseas Vlachodimos  Goalkeeper
Matt Turner          Goalkeeper
Callum Hudson-Odoi   Left Winger
Nuno Tavares Left-Back
Ola Aina  Right-Back
Andrey Santos   Defensive Midfield
Gonzalo Montiel    Right-Back
Divock Origi  Centre-Forward

 

plus they already had these MFers

Cheikhou Kouyaté   
Danilo    
Orel Mangala    
Ryan Yates  
Jonjo Shelvey  
Harry Arter  
Morgan Gibbs-White  
Brandon Aguilera 

tell me again WHY we loaned Santos there?

ffs

[NikkiCFC 8,315]

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to loan him to better team if he cannot even play here. We should loan him to team below our level if you can find one. 

[Blue Armour 4,438]

2 hours ago, Thor said:

All throughout last season it was constantly "once we get this guy, we'll be back amongst the top". 

Same thing is happening now that we've had a few injuries. 

I'm sorry - but winning games against bottom of the ladder teams being dependent on Nkunku playing or not is not the signs of a top team. 

 

We have the talent. We do. People think these players are suddenly shit or not good enough... No. We suffer from a lethargy/confidence issue. That will take time. It isn't about "just one more player". 

It's not just about talent. It's about experience.

Because of the lack of it, a team like this will blow hot and cold. When it clicks, it can be fantastic, but it can also easily churn up embarrassing results like this.

Then there's the mentality. If the team goes on a losing run, we could be in for a repeat of last season., because there aren't enough leaders on the pitch to take control of the game.

Ironically in today's game, one of the few leaders we have in Silva was also embarrassed for the goal we conceded. 

Hopefully Poch can arrest this slide after the international break., with a couple of more players potentially returning from injury.

[Blue Armour 4,438]

Lifted this off another forum, but can't help but feel it's applicable here.Their cavalier approach to tearing down and rebuilding the squad (and the club for that matter), is what has led us here. Maybe given more time, it will pay off, but who knows what that means for success on the pitch.

My suspicion is that they are trying to run Chelsea the same way they ran the Dodgers. In the first couple of years under Boehly, the Dodgers invested wildly and unsustainably into their team, were hit with financial penalties, paid them, and won the World Series. Move fast and break things.

In baseball, a much more individualistic sport than football, high levels of squad churn doesn't really matter if you're fielding better pitchers and better hitters than you had last year. Team chemistry and tactics are much less important than the raw ability of the players. In football, not so much.

 

 

 

Edited September 3, 2023 by Blue Armour

[Thor 2,693]

29 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

It's not just about talent. It's about experience.

Because of the lack of it, a team like this will blow hot and cold. When it clicks, it can be fantastic, but it can also easily churn up embarrassing results like this.

Then there's the mentality. If the team goes on a losing run, we could be in for a repeat of last season., because there aren't enough leaders on the pitch to take control of the game.

Ironically in today's game, one of the few leaders we have in Silva was also embarrassed for the goal we conceded. 

Hopefully Poch can arrest this slide after the international break., with a couple of more players potentially returning from injury.

21st of Oct to the 7th of Dec schedule...

Arsenal, Brentford, Spurs, City, Newcastle, Brighton and Man United... 

Poch better figure it out lol... 

[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

4 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Lifted this off another forum, but can't help but feel it's applicable here.Their cavalier approach to tearing down and rebuilding the squad (and the club for that matter), is what has led us here. Maybe given more time, it will pay off, but who knows what that means for success on the pitch.

My suspicion is that they are trying to run Chelsea the same way they ran the Dodgers. In the first couple of years under Boehly, the Dodgers invested wildly and unsustainably into their team, were hit with financial penalties, paid them, and won the World Series. Move fast and break things.

In baseball, a much more individualistic sport than football, high levels of squad churn doesn't really matter if you're fielding better pitchers and better hitters than you had last year. Team chemistry and tactics are much less important than the raw ability of the players. In football, not so much.

 

 

 

Change was definitely needed, it's just a shame that we had to wait until the opening week of the season to sign the midfielders that we wanted so badly. 

Like what happened to getting your business done early and allowing the new players a chance to settle down and integrate with the rest of the first XI?    Caicedo looks like he's going through pre-season now and who knows how long it'll take Lavia, Badiashile, Broja to find their feet in the first team again. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

3 hours ago, Thor said:

21st of Oct to the 7th of Dec schedule...

Arsenal, Brentford, Spurs, City, Newcastle, Brighton and Man United... 

Poch better figure it out lol... 

Let's see how long Poch sticks with the 3 at the back combination.  I see some heavy score lines coming up if he doesn't figure it out as Arsenal, Brentford, City, Brighton and United have the tools to score 3+ goals against us and Spurs under Ange look like they're on fire at the moment with so much energy. 

[Mhsc 1,097]

6 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Let's see how long Poch sticks with the 3 at the back combination.  I see some heavy score lines coming up if he doesn't figure it out as Arsenal, Brentford, City, Brighton and United have the tools to score 3+ goals against us and Spurs under Ange look like they're on fire at the moment with so much energy. 

I don’t know how many more times I can say this but it is NOT 3 at the back, it is 4 at the back with Chilwell playing as a winger. A number of people including Poch and Silva have said this but also, just using your eyes during the game makes it obvious. Colwill has been playing as a leftback.

Edited September 3, 2023 by Mhsc

[lucio 5,418]

1 hour ago, Mhsc said:

I don’t know how many more times I can say this but it is NOT 3 at the back, it is 4 at the back with Chilwell playing as a winger. A number of people including Poch and Silva have said this but also, just using your eyes during the game makes it obvious. Colwill has been playing as a leftback.

Still playing with extra defenders , it’s embarrassing . Pick a proper lineup or get another job 

[Mhsc 1,097]

1 hour ago, lucio said:

Still playing with extra defenders , it’s embarrassing . Pick a proper lineup or get another job 

Yes I agree the personnel selection is poor, but I don't think the problem is the formation / system or that he's changed it. He's just been putting loads of square pegs in round holes which he didn't do in preseason, except for maybe Maatsen who he kept playing anywhere except for LB and Gallagher as a CM but we always thought that was because he didn't have options.

[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

2 hours ago, Mhsc said:

I don’t know how many more times I can say this but it is NOT 3 at the back, it is 4 at the back with Chilwell playing as a winger. A number of people including Poch and Silva have said this but also, just using your eyes during the game makes it obvious. Colwill has been playing as a leftback.

And that's the biggest problem with the lineup. 

When has Colwill played "LB" during his young career?    He's a ball playing CB, not a LB. 

No point in having 3 CB's on the pitch as well as a LB playing as a winger against the bottom sides.