Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, Special Juan said: And now noises about Poch being frustrated at lack of activity and experience in midfield. Knew this fucking coming, good start to pre season but these fucking idiots in charge cannot get deals done. Absolute wankers they are Not their fault if the other club keeps moving the goalposts and insisting on a certain youngster in return. The opportunity to get Ugarte was there but PSG beat us out with massive wages. whats happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, Reddish-Blue said: Not their fault if the other club keeps moving the goalposts and insisting on a certain youngster in return. The opportunity to get Ugarte was there but PSG beat us out with massive wages. Then there is a straight up choice, pay what they want or walk the fuck away, it ain't difficult. Instead we are suppposedly still locked in talks for 2 nearly 3 months and still no further on, go figure it Vegetable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 All goes back to how PSG pulled our pants down and slid it home on Ugarte which we did not see coming. That was the cock up that has led to all other cockups so far, I think. Hopefully we just get something done this week or mostly done, I know everyone has somehow formed into a Caicedo or bust policy (sunk cost fallacy) but I myself just want us to get Enzo a good partner that frees him up and covers his weaknesses. Someone athletic, strong, tall, who can slot into the backline if needed and is a high level tackler / interceptor while being a capable passer would bring us enough team balance and quality to at least give us a real shot against Liverpool in our first game of the season. I think there are a bunch of sensible options and we should just fucking get one. We can go for Caicedo later or never if the price will never become sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mhsc said: All goes back to how PSG pulled our pants down and slid it home on Ugarte which we did not see coming. That was the cock up that has led to all other cockups so far, I think. Hopefully we just get something done this week or mostly done, I know everyone has somehow formed into a Caicedo or bust policy (sunk cost fallacy) but I myself just want us to get Enzo a good partner that frees him up and covers his weaknesses. Someone athletic, strong, tall, who can slot into the backline if needed and is a high level tackler / interceptor while being a capable passer would bring us enough team balance and quality to at least give us a real shot against Liverpool in our first game of the season. I think there are a bunch of sensible options and we should just fucking get one. We can go for Caicedo later or never if the price will never become sensible. Kephren Thuram would be a good option? 1.92 cm and strong like a bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,584 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I think the club only see Caicedo being better than Santos will be soon so if not Caicedo then will go for cheaper option be that an experienced player for a few years or even a loan move,not sure of the market there,but have considered how Zakaria would have been a better option this season instead of last. Think the earlier in the offseason comments about another aswell as Ugarte have changed since Poch has had a closer look at our young players.i also think atleast one of our 2 CC's will play deeper than they have in pre-season and if we get Kudus,then Conor can be sold,he is a decent player but not a natural fit when we aren't playing a 4-3-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Special Juan said: Then there is a straight up choice, pay what they want or walk the fuck away, it ain't difficult. Instead we are suppposedly still locked in talks for 2 nearly 3 months and still no further on, go figure it We did that with Cucurella and ended up paying an extra 20 million for no reason whatsoever. No point overpaying for another player. I would hope the club just goes and meets them face to face, puts up the 80 million (with say 5 million in add-ons) and that's the final offer. United didn't mess around when they wanted Mount, they asked for a face to face meeting and agreed the deal, don't see why we can't do the same with Brighton. If they feel he is worth the same as Rice, good luck to them as no-one is touching Caicedo for 100 million at this stage of his career. Fernando and Norfolkblue1961 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Miguel Delaney saying we are ahead in the race for Kudus as the financial package we have put together is better than Arsenal's Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: We did that with Cucurella and ended up paying an extra 20 million for no reason whatsoever. No point overpaying for another player. I would hope the club just goes and meets them face to face, puts up the 80 million (with say 5 million in add-ons) and that's the final offer. United didn't mess around when they wanted Mount, they asked for a face to face meeting and agreed the deal, don't see why we can't do the same with Brighton. If they feel he is worth the same as Rice, good luck to them as no-one is touching Caicedo for 100 million at this stage of his career. Then you have the answer, simply walk away! I said days ago it should be no more difficult than renewing the offer with a simple take it or leave it- No more going back if they refuse, slap the price down and stand up with arms folded. We need to stop fucking about now Vegetable and enzoforever 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Miguel Delaney saying we are ahead in the race for Kudus as the financial package we have put together is better than Arsenal's Wish we could at least push this one through whilst we’re dragging the Caicedo chase on and on. With Lavia looking Liverpool bound Arse may decide to make a real push for Kudus. I think they’re only going to make 1 more splashy signing at either deeper midfield or as a rotation option for Saka which is what Kudus would be for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: Wish we could at least push this one through whilst we’re dragging the Caicedo chase on and on. With Lavia looking Liverpool bound Arse may decide to make a real push for Kudus. I think they’re only going to make 1 more splashy signing at either deeper midfield or as a rotation option for Saka which is what Kudus would be for them. I don't think they are capable of doing anything else away from Caicedo as they have their heads firmly planted up their arses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Liverpool have upped their bid for Lavia to 42M plus 2M in addons as apparently Joe Shields had approached Southampton so this has got Liverpool moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Liverpool have upped their bid for Lavia to 42M plus 2M in addons as apparently Joe Shields had approached Southampton so this has got Liverpool moving if Chelsea are interested, as fabrizio says, why have we not tried to sign him for so long? and let him go to liverpool? Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mário César said: if Chelsea are interested, as fabrizio says, why have we not tried to sign him for so long? and let him go to liverpool? We are very good and chasing others on and upping the pressure but we are struggling to get our own deals done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Special Juan said: We are very good and chasing others on and upping the pressure but we are struggling to get our own deals done Would be nice to let another club do the ground work for a change, then we swoop in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 kexik and DH1988 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Whats your take on that? Would it be so much different than Enzo - Caicedo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,745 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 The longer Caicedo saga goes on the more pressure on the player if we get him, people need to shit or get of the pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Would be nice to let another club do the ground work for a change, then we swoop in Not on this one, he's 100% Liverpool bound, it's too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Lavia was Liverpool bound since last season if u ask me. This guy loves these cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 the issue is not even the quality of lavia. the problem is that Chelsea have been looking at him for so many weeks and why haven't they put in a bid? we had more than enough time for that don't make any sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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