Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 31,037]

9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Badiashile played RCB for a large portion at Monaco with Jonathan Panzo at LCB. 

do you even do the slightest amount of research before posting?

Panzo only played THREE topflight games ever for Monaco

Two Ligue 1 games in 2019/20, one as starter where Badi never came in, and then a 16 minute late defensive LMF/LW sub (for Henry Onyekuru), and a game where Badi (as an 18 yo) was the starting LEFT CB

and one Coupe de la Ligue game in 2018/2019, where Badi (17 years old then) was the LEFT CB and Panzo was the LB

 

 

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,399]

24 minutes ago, Vesper said:

do you even do the slightest amount of research before posting?

Panzo only played THREE topflight games ever for Monaco

Two Ligue 1 games in 2019/20, one as starter where Badi never came in, and then a 16 minute late defensive LMF/LW sub (for Henry Onyekuru), and a game where Badi (as an 18 yo) was the starting LEFT CB

and one Coupe de la Ligue game in 2018/2019, where Badi (17 years old then) was the LEFT CB and Panzo was the LB

 

 

 

Should of added at youth level. 

Pretty good in depth analysis on when Badiashile played RCB when being partnered with Panzo/Serrano. 

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Because he was probably the better player of the two central defenders (both left footed), Benoît Badiashile was playing RCB and Julien Serrano LCB. (Transfermarkt wrongly logged the CB pairing). 

What didn’t look to cause him much trouble for yet another psychic interception and drive with the ball + masked pass.

(Apologies for the accidental Kehlani soundtrack for the screen capture)

Badiashile also captained the first three games of the Youth League 2019 against Atletico, Dortmund and Brugge. 

Former Chelsea defender Jonathan Panzo joined Monaco (Michael Emenalo was Monaco’s Sporting Director) and formed a CB partership with Badiashile.

Guess who played at RCB once again considering both are left footed? 

Yes, that is correct, Benoît Badiashile did.

When players are said to “not being able to play anywhere else than their designed tailor made position” (say, a LCB position for a team holding out for oxygen and conceding 17 shots to Leicester City), I really hate to break the mood but that usually means that the player isn’t really good in the first place. 

The same applies to the echo chamber that left footed centre backs can’t play at right centre back.
It’s a matter of habit, but guess what, good players are usually skilfull and intelligent enough to adapt.
Rüdiger’s left foot is shocking, he is also the reigning Emperor of Toe Pokes.
And yet signed a mega money deal for Real Madrid at 29.

Badiashile was doing Badiashile things, regardless if he was featuring at LCB or RCB. His trademark switch was already there.

Being situationally inside the pitch for a dominant team wasn’t something he wasn’t comfortable with either, playing as iNvErTeD cEnTrE bAcK.

https://seb4stien.substack.com/p/chelseas-big-ben-benoit-badiashile

 

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[Pizy 19,250]

4 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

 

Spending money on a striker that we won’t even use anytime soon when we desperately need a ready made striker NOW. 

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[Gundalf 806]

Just now, Pizy said:

Spending money on a striker that we won’t even use anytime soon when we desperately need a ready made striker NOW. 

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I mean, there is no ready made striker out there atm that we could affort tbh. Best we can do is to buy cheaper talents and hope they become the star strikers we need. His stats are pretty impressive, scoring for fun in Ligue 1 (way more than Muani in his last year). Only thing I dont like about that Wahi guy is his background.  

[Gundalf 806]

One thing Im curious about: we always needed to buy a CB next year anyway since Thiago will be gone and Chalobah is not really valued. So maybe we try to sign our main target for next year (if we have one?) already this year, let him settle in with Thiago. Idk if the budget allows that or we even have a target to replace Thiago with but thats maybe discussed rn. 
But ig we wont sign anyone since we dont have international football. 

Edited July 18, 2023 by Gundalf

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

3 hours ago, bluesman2610 said:

 I just read that both Goretzka and Kimmich are for sale. One priced at €45m-€55m and the other at €75m. We need experience in the engine room of the midfield I think either of these players would dramatically enhance us

Goretzka surely is for sale but Kimmich I strongly doubt he will leave. Goretzka has always been overrated. He is competent but streaky. Can do everything when on form but rarely ever is. The experience, size and ability from range in midfield could temporarily help tho. Poor man’s Michael Ballack

[Gundalf 806]

For 1 season ladies and gentlemen?? 😎🤣

[Vesper 31,037]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Should of added at youth level. 

Pretty good in depth analysis on when Badiashile played RCB when being partnered with Panzo/Serrano. 

 

youth league football doesn't carry that much weight with me

some, but it is nothing like topflight, let alone the monster EPL

in the first half of last season, he played (league game starts) for Monaco at RCB twice in the league, both times in a back 5 (and in one of those he switched to LCB later on in the game), all his other starts were at LCB (usually in back 4), except for 1 at middle CB

in his 5 Europa league games he was LCB twice and middle CB 3 times, never at RCB

in his 10 starts for us he never played on the right, was mostly (8 times) at LCB, and then twice in the middle CB slot, in the 11th game, he was  late sub at LCB

the season before

6 Europa League games ( 5 starts and then a half game as a sub at LCB), 4 at LCB, 2 in the middle

4 CL games, 4 starts (including one where he played the full 120 minutes), all at LCB

and in 24 league games  all were at LCB except for 2, where he played in the middle CB in back 5

bottom line:

he is NOT a viable RCB, especially for the EPL level of play

Edited July 18, 2023 by Vesper

[Pizy 19,250]

12 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

For 1 season ladies and gentlemen?? 😎🤣

He’d get 8 red cards in a single season in the PL.

[Vesper 31,037]

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

I agree that rushing out and buying a CB this window makes little sense. It isn’t a concerning area at the moment. If this was the usual 60 match Chelsea season then yes. 

Maybe, just maybe we bring someone highly experienced on loan for the season if some opportunity presents itself. Someone who is 30+ and knows ahead of time that they likely won’t see much playing time.

right footed CBs 30yo and over

Edited July 18, 2023 by Vesper

[Vesper 31,037]

 

[OneMoSalah 9,089]

If theres any chance Kimmich is available, go for it. Would say yes he is still someone who has weaknesses particularly phyiscally as he isn’t the quickest per say but his quality, wealth of experience and competitiveness as a player is hard to find.

Barella would be next choice but to utilise him effectively we would have to play 433 and that means Enzo as a pivot which is no good either.

[Vesper 31,037]

 

[Vesper 31,037]

5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

If theres any chance Kimmich is available, go for it. Would say yes he is still someone who has weaknesses particularly phyiscally as he isn’t the quickest per say but his quality, wealth of experience and competitiveness as a player is hard to find.

Barella would be next choice but to utilise him effectively we would have to play 433 and that means Enzo as a pivot which is no good either.

Kimmich will never come here

not unless we are talking years from now, when he is rinsed

he is one of the top footballers on the planet, a serial winner and Bayern just hired the genius Christoph Freund as sporting director, who will turbo-charge them again

Edited July 18, 2023 by Vesper

[whats happening 1,660]

we are not buying kimmich and caicedo. only one.

[Clockwork 1,794]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

summer 2022 buy (speaking NON YOUTH) window may well go down as one of the worst ever for an EPL club, it really looks like may be the case

hopefully Enzo and Muddy and Noni and Badi can save it from that

if Rom had also been bought in 2022 instead of 2021, it would likely have been the worst window in football history

 

 

Weird how every signing under Tuchel was utter flop, Fofana has been the best one and he is quite injury prone. Which we already knew before buying.

[Vesper 31,037]

lol, Fulham are demanding €105m (£90m) for a 28yo DMF, João Palhinha

bonkers

[Clockwork 1,794]

2 hours ago, Gundalf said:

 

Why not have Strasbourg buy him.

[Gundalf 806]

7 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Why not have Strasbourg buy him.

If he performs well this season he would become more expensive.