Chelsea Transfers

[Mário César 1,483]

 

Good thing we won't spend that much on Oshimen. 

He is a good player, but I believe he will stay this season at Napoli.

No club will spend 150M€ on him. It's a lot of money.

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3 hours ago, Superblue said:

I know there seems to be a lot of posturing on the Mount deal from different camps, etc but for some reason, I have a gut feeling that if a move to United did break down and he stayed here, that any issues would be resolved between him and the club and a new contract would be signed during next season.

I think the two big things within this are (1) it's been widely reported Poch would prefer to keep him, so if he did stay he's going to be utilised, and (2) from Mount's perspective he'll want a strong season before the Euros as it's no longer just a starting place for him now, if he has a similar season to the one just gone, he'll be doing well to make the Euros squad at all. He's not in a position to just be able to coast.

There's been similar situations of players seemingly on the brink of leaving before only for the situation to be turned around. I can remember Gerrard back in 2005 being essentially a done deal and being discussed in the media, etc as such and then suddenly a couple of days later the goalposts have shifted. That's why I think the club are more prepared to push a hard line with this deal, because I think there's a confidence there that something could be recovered if we went into next season with him in the squad.

I would also add JT to City in 2009 also to that list.

Not sure how true the rumors were, but they dragged on for the entire summer window. 

And also Lamps to Inter in 2008.

Edited June 26, 2023 by Blue Armour

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6 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

£12.5m is a shit price for RLC

surely there are EPL clubs that would pay a lot more, based off a tonne of £20m+ deals they do for players who are worse

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2 hours ago, Mário César said:

Well im reading that we dont want to lay 80m pounds for caicedo

If this is the case, its better focus in other targets

links? evidence?

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3 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

jfc

Mamar can be had for only £21.5m

smdh

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2 hours ago, Pizy said:

I and a few others here agree. Osimhen is a great finisher within the box and is a powerful, classic #9 that would do well in the PL. But he’s not a £100m+ player for me. Not even close. He’s average with the ball at his feet and doesn’t offer enough besides goal scoring to be worth mega money.

For a striker to be worth that sort of money they need a world class all around game like Kane or Benzema. And if they don’t they need to have alien like production every season like Haaland. Osimhen is no Haaland.

agree, he is NOT worth £154.4m (€180m)

€100-110m (£85.5 to £94m), then sure, we can discuss that

Edited June 26, 2023 by Vesper

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1 hour ago, Mário César said:

 

Good thing we won't spend that much on Oshimen. 

He is a good player, but I believe he will stay this season at Napoli.

No club will spend 150M€ on him. It's a lot of money.

the poison dwarf is demanding €180m (£154.4m), not €150m

Napoli place €180m price tag on Osimhen

https://punchng.com/napoli-place-e180m-price-tag-on-osimhen/

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11 minutes ago, Vesper said:

£12.5m is a shit price for RLC

surely there are EPL clubs that would pay a lot more, based off a tonne of £20m+ deals they do for players who are worse

Is it? Much like KK and others simply getting him the hell off our books with those huge wages is a massive win. I don’t see some small PL club being able to offer him well over 100k per week. He’s a one in every 10 games sort of player.

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Teun Koopmeiners Is such a good midfielder, De Zarbi is also after him to replace Caicedo. Won’t surprise me a year from now this deal looks like another Brighton swindle.

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Sell now!

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1 minute ago, Clockwork said:

Teun Koopmeiners Is such a good midfielder, De Zarbi is also after him to replace Caicedo. Won’t surprise me a year from now this deal looks like another Brighton swindle.

I have mentioned him a lot over the past year or so

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for a while I have have said £60m

but if its £5m less or blow the deal, fuck it, SELL

Edited June 26, 2023 by Vesper

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I have mentioned him a lot over the past year or so

Perfect midfielder, a true 6 that will allow Enzo more freedom, very tidy in tight places, and physical.

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13 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Is it? Much like KK and others simply getting him the hell off our books with those huge wages is a massive win. I don’t see some small PL club being able to offer him well over 100k per week. He’s a one in every 10 games sort of player.

I think it is shit

we owe him around £12.5m in wages total for the next 2 years (IF we exercise his 1 year option until June 2025)

a £12.5m transfer fee only equals that, with zero net profit (FFP amortisation aside)

He is a double-digit capped England player, and is 27yo, fully recovered from his bad injury years ago

AC Milan are talking about him being a key player to replace Tonali

Edited June 26, 2023 by Vesper

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Lmao is this Mount deal is being held up over 5m, how broke is United? You guys worried about them going after Caicedo.

My feeling on Mount is I have seen enough to know what he is capable of, a very good player but not a player like Salah or KDB where I am like what could have been. 
 

Mount has been better than Havertz, still feel Havertz potentially could be a special player.

We keep talking about KDB and Salah, we already let that type of player go already he is at Bayern.

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2 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Lmao is this Mount deal is being held up over 5m, how broke is United? You guys worried about them going after Caicedo.

My feeling on Mount is I have seen enough to know what he is capable of, a very good player but not a player like Salah or KDB where I am like what could have been. 
 

Mount has been better than Havertz, still feel Havertz potentially could be a special player.

We keep talking about KDB and Salah, we already let that type of player go already he is at Bayern.

if possible, maybe just do the £50m tras fee plus £10m in add-ons instead of £5m

surely we can work something out

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4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I think it is shit

we owe him around £12.5m in wages total for the next 2 years (IF we exercise his 1 year option until June 2025)

a £12.5m transfer fee only equals that, with zero net profit (FFP amortisation aside)

He is a double-digit capped England player, and is 27yo, fully recovered from his bad injury years ago

AC Milan are talking about him being a key player to replace Tonali

Whatever it takes for me to never see yet another manager think to themselves “hey, maybe RLC is good enough for Chelsea” again for the 15th time. I just want him gone. 

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Man Utd have Mason Mount alternatives but transfer face-off with Chelsea continues

 

The position of Manchester United on Mason Mount remains very clear - the interest is still there, the idea to sign him is still there. Their final bid of £50m plus £5m add-ons is still valid, still on the table. United consider it their final bid, and even though Chelsea have rejected it for now, United consider it still valid, so if Chelsea change their minds, United are prepared to complete the deal.

Chelsea’s stance is still that they have asked for a package worth £65m, add-ons included. For United, the intention is clear - they have no intention to arrive at that fee, they want to pay £55m.

Of course Man United have alternatives in case this move doesn’t work out, but I’m still told the focus now is on the Mount deal. They want to get it done at their conditions, the situation will be discussed again this week; in or out, for sure. Man United don’t want any extra-tax just because they spent big money on players recently; fair price or nothing.

But it’s also worth saying that Man United feel Mount will not sign new deal at Chelsea and only wants to join them. Chelsea will look to clarify the situation in conversations with Mount, but for now, my understanding is that the player’s position is clear - he leaves now, or he moves on a free transfer next year. He’s not going to extend his contract, so this is the situation Chelsea are facing.

Despite reports, I’m not aware of Bayern Munich working to hijack this deal. Thomas Tuchel is a big fan, but they have different priorities, including centre-back and a striker. At the moment, there is also no signal from Liverpool in terms of joining the race, as they’re busy with other midfielders, and also Mount is focused on United. He’s really focused on Manchester United as next step for his career; and one of the reasons why Man Utd insist a lot is that they feel Mount only wants them.

Declan Rice’s future still open, plus interest in Eddie Nketiah

 

We heard a lot about an official Manchester City bid for Declan Rice, and it could still happen, but also Arsenal plan to submit a third proposal for the West Ham United captain this week. The race remains open between Man City and Arsenal, waiting for the bids and also for West Ham position. Payment terms will also be important, West Ham want big money paid now and not in four or five instalments.

 

As I revealed a couple of days ago, contacts have taken place between City and Rice on the player side. Mikel Arteta has been trying his best to sign Rice for Arsenal, but City are still there as well. Nothing is decided yet, but we could have a crucial few days ahead.

Reminder: Arsenal will also bid again for Jurrien Timber. Personal terms are no issue, they’ve already been agreed with the Ajax defender.

Finally, on another Arsenal rumour, I’m honestly not convinced about reports that Eddie Nketiah could be sold this summer. He signed a new deal last year, and he’s always been highly rated at Arsenal. For sure there are many clubs who have been tracking Nketiah for a long time but nothing is concrete in terms of chances to leave the club now.

Other players to keep an eye on…

 

Mohammed Kudus - At the moment, Brighton are really pushing for the Ajax star. Let’s see if other clubs enter the race but it’s not something concrete at this stage. Brighton will try, they know it’s a very difficult deal due to asking price and more factors, but they are in talks. The precise price tag is not clear yet, I will update on that later this week.

Jeremie Frimpong - Formally he has not changed agent; his agent Jeffrey Lemmert has partnered with new agency to work together on Frimpong’s future. His agent met Bayern, Barcelona and Man United in April but nothing is advanced at this stage for the fullbacks market in general, same for Joao Cancelo and Denzel Dumfries. I think his asking price could be around £30-35m.

 

 

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• Mason Mount’s message to Chelsea is clear - full details here.

• My understanding is Nicolas Jackson’s contract at Chelsea will be valid until June 2031 — it’s an eight year deal! His medical was completed over two days. Chelsea will pay €37m to Villarreal, which is a bit more than his release clause but with better payment terms.

• After Kalidou Koulibaly’s departure was made official, Edouard Mendy will be the next Chelsea player to travel to Saudi for medicals today.

• Chelsea and Al Nassr are also confident to get documents signed for Hakim Ziyech between Monday and Tuesday. He is another Chelsea player expected to complete a move to Saudi Arabia.

• I understand Athletic Bilbao is not a concrete option for Cesar Azpilicueta. the Chelsea defender has agreed personal terms with Inter and has no intention to consider other proposals, as of now. A two year deal in place but it all depends on Chelsea’s green light to let him go as a free agent.