Chelsea Transfers

[ZAPHOD2319 4,942]

54 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

I think he is quite the talent, and would love to see it.... but how can we afford all of this plus a striker?

[ZAPHOD2319 4,942]

He would be a free transfer. The following is a google translate of the Spanish article, so some of the phrasing might seem clunky.

 

Gavi's reasons for considering signing for Chelsea

New contacts between the English club and the player's entourage are planned in the coming days to try to continue advancing. Barça is his first option, but…

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Chelsea have taken the first step to sign Gavi, but it won't be the last. As AS announced this Tuesday, the English club met three weeks ago, in Madrid, with the player's agent, Iván De la Peña, to convey to him the desire to sign his representative. After that first contact in the capital of Spain, a second meeting that will have a greater depth is scheduled soon. The owners of the English club will be at that meeting, led by Todd Boehly, and it is expected that the soccer player's parents will also attend, accompanied by Iván de la Peña. The Chelsea owners want to convey to Gavi's parents the importance of the player in his ambitious project, as well as answer any questions they might have.The leak of the news given this Tuesday by AS about the start of contacts between Chelsea and Gavi's entourage has not changed the roadmap set by the English club to get the signing of the current Golden Boy and Kopa Award winner. The operation continues...

Gavi, for his part, is calm. He does not close doors, although his initial desire is to continue at the Camp Nou. For this reason, on September 15 , he renewed as a professional footballer with Barcelona until 2026. However, the bizarre contractual situation that he is experiencing and that is derived from the economic problems of the Barça club, is what has opened the way for Chelsea. And it is that if Barcelona does not manage to release 200 million of his salary limit before June 30 , his current professional contract would not be valid and he would be free, being able to sign for the blue team at zero cost. Chelsea, just in case, continues with his strategy. So,while Barcelona is unable to sign him up and he has had to see how he 'loses' the number '6' to put on the '30' again, the London team is willing to make him one of the highest paid players on the team, surpassing highly the salary signed in Barcelona.

In the strategy designed by Chelsea, not only the economic trick is played, but the signing of Luis Enrique for the next season is also being considered. The presence of the Asturian coach at Stamford Bridge would be one more incentive for the midfielder to take the step of leaving Barcelona and heading towards the Premier League. Not in vain, Luis Enrique is the coach who has bet the most on him, taking him to the National Team when he had still made very few merits in the First Division and in the face of widespread criticism from public opinion. Among the various controversial decisions made by Luis Enrique as head of the National Team, the commitment to Gavi was possibly the most successful. Both could meet again at Chelsea next season.

 

https://as.com/futbol/primera/las-razones-de-gavi-para-plantearse-fichar-por-el-Chelsea-n/?ssm=TW_CC

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20 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I think he is quite the talent, and would love to see it.... but how can we afford all of this plus a striker?

maybe they are just going to say fuck FFP, lolololol

Super League here we come

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[DDA 10,208]

38 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I think he is quite the talent, and would love to see it.... but how can we afford all of this plus a striker?

I really think we should consider getting Hojlund... he would suit Enrique more that Osimhen??

Edited April 14, 2023 by DDA

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we still desperately need a world class CF, a world class GK, and a true DMF (unless we are going to pull a massive surprise and roll with Zakaria, who I so wish was given more playing time, he has look quite decent when he has played)

this is out of left field, BUT I would love to see Noni tried at LB/LWB, I said that before we even bought him

he is a superb athlete, is quite large and strong, great pace, and surely cannot be worse than CuCu

plus he is HG

the only LB we do not have who remotely interests me is Nuno Mendes 

I say that if we do not even try Noni there, and we (very likely) do not drop insane money on Nuno, we just roll with Maatsen and take the big loss on CuCu-shite 

what a disaterclass but he was

same for KK 

Muddy can still turn it around, and Sterling needs a proper manager to get him a system that works for him

DonkeyKaku needs to be shipped

hopefully (if we lose to Real) he leads Inter to the CL title and we can get a nice chunk of change for the plonker, LOLOLOL

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15 minutes ago, DDA said:

I really think we should consider getting Hojlund... he would suit Enrique more that Osimhen??

THIS!!!!!

Viking time!

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[Pizy 19,255]

Still don’t buy the Gavi stuff at all. Not unless Luis Enrique has told the board that he is an absolute priority that he NEEDS in order to implement his style. Even then I can’t see Barca allowing a teenaged “wonderkid” walk on a free. They’ll pressure him, promise him the moon, and have all the Spanish media on him. Players that come through their youth system and become stars in the first team just don’t leave. Not when the club actually badly want to keep him. That fan base would riot if he walked.

And as for the reports on the Chelsea side, they’re pretty outlandish as well. Talk of us paying an 18 year old hundreds of thousands a week sounds like bullshit. 

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7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Still don’t buy the Gavi stuff at all. Not unless Luis Enrique has told the board that he is an absolute priority that he NEEDS in order to implement his style. Even then I can’t see Barca allowing a teenaged “wonderkid” walk on a free. They’ll pressure him, promise him the moon, and have all the Spanish media on him. Players that come through their youth system and become stars in the first team just don’t leave. Not when the club actually badly want to keep him. That fan base would riot if he walked.

And as for the reports on the Chelsea side, they’re pretty outlandish as well. Talk of us paying an 18 year old hundreds of thousands a week sounds like bullshit. 

Just another De Jong saga. Expect United to be all over him as well 😅

[Clockwork 1,794]

I don’t get the hype over Cecideo, what makes him better than spuds flop Yves Bissouma?

[LAM09 7,085]

4 hours ago, DDA said:

I really think we should consider getting Hojlund... he would suit Enrique more that Osimhen??

We don't need another "project".

[OneMoSalah 9,093]

1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

We don't need another "project".

Yep regardless of his potential, we need somebody who is able to come in, lead the line and deliver consistently right now because we have been lacking a regular top goalscoring CF for years now.

After January, I hope we don’t seem intent on buying/wanting every second u23 player in the world again. I mean if this is the strategy this summer, questions have to be asked again of the football strategy, especially considering the doubts or concerns around Mendy, Kepa, Aubamayang, Koulibaly, Kovacic’s futures amongst others.

Squad building needs to be done carefully. Personally I feel you need to have groups of players in different age brackets so you have a mix of lesser experienced, young guys breaking through/trying to establish themselves say under 23s. Then more established players who are proven and experienced in that bracket from say 24 to 29 and then some more senior pros say guys 30 and above. These last two groups, you need to retain a certain number of these guys just as much as anything else. 

If we just keep signing kids and don’t retain or maintain a good mix of established/experienced persons then you don’t really get continuity in the culture and standards around the club.  Or so I feel.

I get Arsenal are maybe showing that theory isn’t necessarily true but for me, I look at City under Pep and they’ve always had great squad building.

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12 hours ago, LAM09 said:

We don't need another "project".

same excuse was given by some here for not signing Håland and Osimhen

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crazy that Inter are 3 wins away from lifting the CL again with Lautaro Martínez having scored only ONE goal in the entire competition in around 700 minutes

Lukaku has 3 CL goals in only 86 minutes played, lol, so a 90 minute game time hat trick

 

[LAM09 7,085]

11 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Yep regardless of his potential, we need somebody who is able to come in, lead the line and deliver consistently right now because we have been lacking a regular top goalscoring CF for years now.

After January, I hope we don’t seem intent on buying/wanting every second u23 player in the world again. I mean if this is the strategy this summer, questions have to be asked again of the football strategy, especially considering the doubts or concerns around Mendy, Kepa, Aubamayang, Koulibaly, Kovacic’s futures amongst others.

Squad building needs to be done carefully. Personally I feel you need to have groups of players in different age brackets so you have a mix of lesser experienced, young guys breaking through/trying to establish themselves say under 23s. Then more established players who are proven and experienced in that bracket from say 24 to 29 and then some more senior pros say guys 30 and above. These last two groups, you need to retain a certain number of these guys just as much as anything else. 

If we just keep signing kids and don’t retain or maintain a good mix of established/experienced persons then you don’t really get continuity in the culture and standards around the club.  Or so I feel.

I get Arsenal are maybe showing that theory isn’t necessarily true but for me, I look at City under Pep and they’ve always had great squad building.

You've summed up my thoughts exactly.

We need certified starters going forward. I'm all for the direction the club has gone in by going after exciting talents, but we need a squad that will be able to compete now rather than one that pins its hopes on those individuals flourishing in years to come.

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

same excuse was given by some here for not signing Håland and Osimhen

If we didn't have someone (Broja) in whom I still hope will deliver, Hojlund would seem like a reasonable choice.

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Håland has the same amount of goals in 4 recent games

6 in his last 2 CL games

3 in his last FA Cup game

and 2 in his last EPL game

so 11 goals in only 285 minutes played

that Vlahovic has had all season in almost 2400 minutes (2388) played

Håland has 51 total goals produced (45 goals + 6 assists) in only 3030 minutes played

he is tracking to 78 club goals if he played the same number of minutes that Messi played in his crazy 73 club goal season in 2011-12

Messi obviously crushes him in assists

that 2011-12 season he also had 32 assists

105 club total goals produced in ONE season!

Deffo the best single season ever for a footballer, plus he had a decent chunk of national team goals and assists (11 goals, 9 assists for the Argies from the end of the 2010-11 club season to the beginning of the 2012-13 club season)

so a 125 total goals (84 goals, 41 assists) produced for club and country from the end of all club games for the 2010-11 season to the beginning of all club games for the 2012-13 season

utter madness

that will NEVER be touched 

the mind reels at those numbers

today, if you were an EPL player who produced (as a winger/MFer) 125 total goals all comps in a 10 year career on a decent money-paying side, you would earn £50m at least, likey much more (that £50m career total is less than £100K PW on balance)

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4 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

You've summed up my thoughts exactly.

We need certified starters going forward. I'm all for the direction the club has gone in by going after exciting talents, but we need a squad that will be able to compete now rather than one that pins its hopes on those individuals flourishing in years to come.

If we didn't have someone (Broja) in whom I still hope will deliver, Hojlund would seem like a reasonable choice.

I am going out on a limb and making a binding prediction

IF we do not get Osimhen (odds are iffy we get him)

and then do not buy Rasmus Højlund

we will regret it massively the next 10 years

I think the lad is going to be insanely good

Victor Osimhen
Rasmus Højlund  

Dusan Vlahovic    
Jonathan David  
Ivan Toney  (as long as the betting shit is sorted)
Randal Kolo Muani
Gonçalo Ramos 
Marcus Thuram  
Hugo Ekitiké (doubt PSG will sell him though)
Evanilson
Benjamin Sesko 
Aleksandar Mitrović 

youth

Vitor Roque  
Marcos Leonardo
 

[Clockwork 1,794]

 

This is my preference for holding midfielder. If we want to push Enzo a little more forward.

Edited April 15, 2023 by Clockwork

[chelsea_4_eva 1,186]

Sell half the team. 50% off, everything must go! lol

[OneMoSalah 9,093]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

same excuse was given by some here for not signing Håland and Osimhen

Not really. The complete opposite as Haaland was different. Haaland was certain to become a world class player. Even at Salzburg you could see it. But again, he the player himself, he made the decision to go to Dortmund and not Man United, here or the countless other clubs who proposed offers for him. It certainly paid off because he has only shown time and time again, like Jude Bellingham & Jadon Sancho to lesser extents, that at that age, playing regularly for a few seasons at a developing club is maybe more important than going from an obscure level to the top in the quickest way possible and maybe not having credit in the bank if things don’t go too well. Even now when he goes on a barren run you just know that Pep, his teams mates, their fans etc, they aren’t worried because they know he’s proven time and time again he will deliver and find the net again. Hes proven it already everywhere he’s gone. I’m not saying the kid at Atalanta doesn't look talented but Haaland is a once in a generational talent. So comparing them is pointless. Its like comparing say Timo Werner a few seasons ago to Kylian Mbappe. They are completely different levels.

Plus Napoli paid like €70m for Osimhen IIRC, which I think after seeing how Pepe got on at Arsenal for £72m (the season before?) probably and rightfully, scared a lot of PL clubs into taking that risk. And Osimhen had only had one good season in European football at a competitive level prior to that move. He’s now at an excellent age where he’s got the confidence, the credit in the bank and experience behind him to make the next step I think. So even if things didn’t start particularly well he’d back himself because he has scored X amount of goals in the past 4 seasons. 

Also the chances are if he came here earlier he would of been loaned or sold off by now, like every other CF we’ve had since Diego Costa. I mean its ok to say yeah we should of signed him 2 or 3 years ago but no other top PL or European club took the gamble Napoli did, so I wouldn’t exactly say it was a bad move at the time.

Edited April 15, 2023 by OneMoSalah