Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 hours ago, TheHulk said: Newcastle interested in McTominay, watch us keep RLC. Individually RLC>McTominay Both have developed 0 and are still the player they were 5 years ago but RLC at least has skill and flair. McTominay is just a bore of a DM. Granted, for a team in dire need of a DM, McTominay is more inciting. RLC could wish for Mctominay's durability and tenacity but put RLC. Put Mctominay in a lower-midtable team and he will not stand out. 3 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said: Rice is a far better player than he's given credit for on this forum. 2 hours ago, ulsterchelsea said: Take him in a heartbeat. Sort of player any top side needs I'd sure take Rice but not for 100m. 2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: Good player but he's not the player you build your team around, that's someone like Enzo. Arsenal would suit him as they are looking to top-up their settled midfield....unlike us where we are in midfield rebuild mode. Depends upon the system being played, he'd be a good addition but Declan Rice alone wouldn't fix our midfield issues. He is a great player, definite upgrade on Jorginho.But more importantly he is a natural leader, something this team lacks. Rice - Enzo would be one of the best double pivots on the planet. But not convinced we will shed 250m on that notion. As I delineated a few pages back. Enzo without a true creator like Messi in front of him and a shield like de Paul in his back is not effective at transforming a team on his own either. But give him Declan and Felix and he will probably look just as good as for Argentina. bluesman2610, dimmas, MoroccanBlue and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,326 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 More footage I watch of Caicedo the more I’m coming around on him. Got a bit more about him on the ball than I thought he did. Vesper, mkh and bluesman2610 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,143 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Enzo without a true creator like Messi in front of him and a shield like de Paul in his back Mac Allister too their MF was just crazy better than anyone else De Paul has been so underrated his entire career, I was glad to see him get a huge trophy the only players on France I feel sorry for were Aurelien Tchouameni Olivier Giroud Antoine Griezmann (unbelievable change of role, was probably the 3rd best player at the WC, after Messi and Mbappe, Gvardiol 4th, and Sofyan Amrabat 5th, Enzo 6th) Kylian Mbappe Argentina gets extra points for winning the world cup with Otamendi as a potential nightmare CB every game, lolol minus points for Emi Martinez being a FUCKING CUNT from hell the using the Golden Glove trophy like a dildo, the horrible, classless taunting of Mbappe, and being the main leader of the 'Fuck England' bullshit so was hoping Messi would shut him down, smdh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,503 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) I would sell Mount in the summer, tbh. Edited January 17, 2023 by Mário César Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,524 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Argentina winning Brazil away in Copa America final is more impressive than what they did at WC. Enzo wasn't even part of that team. On WC they basically draw with average Holland team and also draw with France without possibly 5,6 starters out. Lucas, Kimpembe, Kante, Pogba, Nkunku and Benzema. Considing 5 goals in those 2 games. Martinez saved in last minute of OT a loss and also he did the same against Australia in last 16 game and prevented another overtime. They lost against Saudi Arabia and beat horrid Poland and Mexico. Semis against Croatia was their best game. So Enzo or no Enzo, question is, is he really that important for them? dimmas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,271 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Pizy said: More footage I watch of Caicedo the more I’m coming around on him. Got a bit more about him on the ball than I thought he did. Mate, I'm telling you... I know a midfielder when I see one... Caicedo and Mac Alister are class acts. dimmas, Pizy and Fernando 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,113 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 16 hours ago, whats happening said: i would not give up havertz yet. let give him comptetent attacking teammates first. he barely had those here If he needs competent attacking team mates to resemble a half decent footballer then ultimately he cannot be a half decent footballer. He has been abysmal this season. Atrocious. dimmas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,407 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Done with that argument. Heard it so many times. Does Lionel Messi prevent Havertz from dribbling out of the pitch on his own like we saw against Fulham? Does prime Ronaldo prevent Havertz from fluffing that early chance he got after a brilliant piece of skill from Felix against Fulham? Move on. Give me Mudryk, Felix, and Nkunku. Edited January 17, 2023 by MoroccanBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, whats happening said: i would not give up havertz yet. let give him comptetent attacking teammates first. he barely had those here I wouldn't too, but the problem with him is that even if you ignore his output, he seems to have lost a lot of his vision and technique on ball since Bayer/starting here and that's worrying Edited January 17, 2023 by Vegetable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,348 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Done with that argument. Heard it so many times. Does Lionel Messi prevent Havertz from dribbling out of the pitch on his own like we saw against Fulham? Does prime Ronaldo prevent Havertz from fluffing that early chance he got from a brilliant piece of skill from Felix against Fulham? Move on. Playing out of position doesn't help, and having turds round you has an effect, having class around players makes them play better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Flashback.... Memories of last summer when everyone here was moaning after the take over from Boehly and Co over the purchase of players weeks after the transition was completed. The whole football world was mocking Chelsea that days of expensive player transfer was over...7 months after the whole football fan base now crying over Chelsea excessive spending.... Lol...long may it continue so long we continue to attract top quality players... Edited January 17, 2023 by Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,407 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Playing out of position doesn't help, and having turds round you has an effect, having class around players makes them play better. He's played virtually every position and has looked equally shit. Don't give me that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,348 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: He's played virtually every position and has looked equally shit. Don't give me that. Exactly no consistency, how the fuck you meant to settle and perform at your best when your played out of position constantly? Ever since he came he's been playing every were possible, use you head. His confidence is absolutely shot! It's got to the point now, nobody knows where to play him. Edited January 17, 2023 by YorkshireBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,326 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, DDA said: Mate, I'm telling you... I know a midfielder when I see one... Caicedo and Mac Alister are class acts. The issue we will still have by just replacing Jorginho with Caicedo, though, is we’d still have the same creativity issues from midfield. But I guess perhaps with Caicedo in the team he frees up Kova or whoever is next to him to focus more on getting forward without worrying about helping J5 defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,271 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Pizy said: The issue we will still have by just replacing Jorginho with Caicedo, though, is we’d still have the same creativity issues from midfield. But I guess perhaps with Caicedo in the team he frees up Kova or whoever is next to him to focus more on getting forward without worrying about helping J5 defensively. Caicedo would be a vast improvement for this transfer window but we must get a proper creative mid in the summer if we can't get the Russian lad...... Edited January 17, 2023 by DDA Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,348 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DDA said: Caicedo would be a vast improvement for this transfer window but we must get a proper creative mid in the summer if we can't get the Russian lad...... I just can't see it, just bought a Ukrainian for 80m to then pay 15m for a Russian and place them in the same squad and expect every one to just get along? Might happen sure! But what's mudryk going to think if we had over 15 million to a Russian club? The amount of politics involved is ridiculous. Edited January 17, 2023 by YorkshireBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,407 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Exactly no consistency, how the fuck you meant to settle and perform at your best when your played out of position constantly? Ever since he came he's been playing every were possible, use you head. His confidence is absolutely shot! It's got to the point now, nobody knows where to play him. He has publicly said he can play anywhere in attack. 😂 And for what its worth, he's played at CF and ST this season, arguably his strongest positions and has looked like a pub league player the majority of the time. 1 good game in 5 and this has nothing to do with being played out of position or having average players around him. He can't dribble past opponents, he can't finish with power, he can't create, he has no balance or composure in the final third. He's simply an average player where the majority of his goals have come from being a target man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,348 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: He has publicly said he can play anywhere in attack. 😂 And for what its worth, he's played at CF and ST this season, arguably his strongest positions and has looked like a pub league player the majority of the time. 1 good game in 5 and this has nothing to do with being played out of position or having average players around him. He can't dribble past opponents, he can't finish with power, he can't create, he has no balance or composure in the final third. He's simply an average player where the majority of his goals have come from being a target man. Thanks to this man, our club lifted a second champions league trophy and got the win at the weekend. He's alot better than he's showed and I for one believe with the right players around him, he will come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: I just can't see it, just bought a Ukrainian for 80m to then pay 15m for a Russian and place them in the same squad and expect every one to just get along? Might happen sure! But what's mudryk going to think if we had over 15 million to a Russian club? The amount of politics involved is ridiculous. Yeah, I'll say it once again - people seem to not notice what is going on in the world around them. Not even going into ethics and sanctions, imagine the prominent US Citizen sending 15 millions of dollars to Russia now, just like that. Good luck. The player is of course victim here, but oh well. This is not happening and is utter shitshow if it somehow does. Edited January 17, 2023 by Vegetable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,143 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said: Argentina winning Brazil away in Copa America final is more impressive than what they did at WC. Enzo wasn't even part of that team. On WC they basically draw with average Holland team and also draw with France without possibly 5,6 starters out. Lucas, Kimpembe, Kante, Pogba, Nkunku and Benzema. Considing 5 goals in those 2 games. Martinez saved in last minute of OT a loss and also he did the same against Australia in last 16 game and prevented another overtime. They lost against Saudi Arabia and beat horrid Poland and Mexico. Semis against Croatia was their best game. So Enzo or no Enzo, question is, is he really that important for them? that Copa America field was one of the weakest in the past 50 years I talked about it back when it was happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now