Chelsea Transfers

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

So we are essentially allowing ourselves to be a training center for Felix for 6 months since there’s no buy option. If he does super well here Atleti (having just now extended his contract) can demand £100m or more for him in the summer. Or just not consider selling him at all.

I mean, with Boehly in charge I have no doubt that he would pay what Atleti ask for if he wants to stay, but with the previous regime in charge we would’ve insisted and likely succeeded in agreeing a buy option for something reasonable.

Injuries made us desperate, clearly. We agreed to a pretty shit deal out of desperation.

We've had our pants pulled down if I am honest. Despite the fact he could be a good signing. If he does well and we get up the table wont mind as much but wouldn't think he will be coming here next season. 

Full wages for 6 months which are 250k per week, a €11m loan fee and no option to buy. Plus he’s renewed his contract there to protect Atletico’s investment in him there also. Not even a mention of an option like the Kovacic loan either.

Some places even speculating now that they aren’t sure Potter specifically wanted him either. Apparently consulted but thats as far as it goes as they see him as “head coach” more than the manager. Although his job title is head coach, going on this info, the signings from now I would imagine will be targets chosen more by a recruitment team. Similar to how Salzburg and Leipzig do it. 

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9 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

We've had our pants pulled down if I am honest. Despite the fact he could be a good signing. If he does well and we get up the table wont mind as much but wouldn't think he will be coming here next season. 

Full wages for 6 months which are 250k per week, a €11m loan fee and no option to buy. Plus he’s renewed his contract there to protect Atletico’s investment in him there also. Not even a mention of an option like the Kovacic loan either.

Some places even speculating now that they aren’t sure Potter specifically wanted him either. Apparently consulted but thats as far as it goes as they see him as “head coach” more than the manager. Although his job title is head coach, going on this info, the signings from now I would imagine will be targets chosen more by a recruitment team. Similar to how Salzburg and Leipzig do it. 

Kovacic had no buy option either from what I remember, Odegaard also had no option and still ended up staying.

[Pizy 18,897]

13 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Kovacic had no buy option either from what I remember, Odegaard also had no option and still ended up staying.

Think you’re right about Odegaard but I think Kovacic did have one at around 40m, didn’t he?

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

21 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Kovacic had no buy option either from what I remember, Odegaard also had no option and still ended up staying.

I don’t know.

I would of thought if he didn't have some sort of option/clause, we wouldn’t of been able to buy him due to the transfer ban. 

Could be wrong but don’t see how we managed to get him otherwise.

[Hamilton 2,120]

12 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I don’t know.

I would of thought if he didn't have some sort of option/clause, we wouldn’t of been able to buy him due to the transfer ban. 

Could be wrong but don’t see how we managed to get him otherwise.

I think you are right, it was buy him or buy nothing no?

[YorkshireBlue 3,275]

Wasn't it more because we already had him on the book and registered, that's why we could buy him 

[TheHulk 2,437]

26 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I don’t know.

I would of thought if he didn't have some sort of option/clause, we wouldn’t of been able to buy him due to the transfer ban. 

Could be wrong but don’t see how we managed to get him otherwise.

We we're banned from registering players but since Kovacic was already registered on loan we could buy him but I don't think he had any buy option.

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Chelsea join the race for right back Pedro Porro, who has a €45m release clause.

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[OneMoSalah 8,886]

1 hour ago, Hamilton said:

I think you are right, it was buy him or buy nothing no?

Not sure. Seen something about the already registered things too so maybe more that.

[NikkiCFC 8,318]

4 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Yeah, giving 30m signing fee to 18 years old who achieved nothing so far is very smart. I can already see how his career will go. 

[Mário César 1,252]

enzo celebrates its goal with a gesture that seems "I will stay"

well he will not come to Chelsea

tbh don't bother me because lets face the true, 130M€ is a insane fee of money

Im happy that Chelsea will not go forward with this madness deal 

[MoroccanBlue 5,381]

Felix will take us from 10th to 10th. 
 

Enzo on the other hand can rejuvenate the squad. Miracles genuinely happen when you vastly improve the midfield. Just look at United. 

[laura90 556]

23 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Felix will take us from 10th to 10th. 
 

Enzo on the other hand can rejuvenate the squad. Miracles genuinely happen when you vastly improve the midfield. Just look at United. 

From 10th to 16th if we are lucky.

Losing against Fulham will send us to relegation battle, but nothing better can't be expected from this clowns.

Enzo would have been revelation, just like Tchouameni back then, but we like our useless signings instead. Pretty face and that's about it with Felix. Brought for cheering up fans purposes only. 

Edited January 10, 2023 by laura90

[Superblue 6,372]

24 minutes ago, laura90 said:

From 10th to 16th if we are lucky.

Pathetic

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Inter Milan President Steven Zhang Wanted To Sign Paulo Dybala But Simone Inzaghi Asked For Romelu Lukaku

https://sempreinter.com/2023/01/11/inter-milan-president-steven-zhang-wanted-to-sign-paulo-dybala-but-simone-inzaghi-asked-for-romelu-lukaku-italian-media-claim/

Inter President Steven Zhang had wanted to sign Paulo Dybala on a free transfer this summer, but coach Simone Inzaghi asked the club to sign Romelu Lukaku instead.

This according to Italian news outlet Calciomercato.com, who claim that it had been the coach’s insistence that Lukaku’s characteristics were the better fit for the team than Dybala’s which led the Nerazzurri to prioritize bringing the Belgian back on loan from Chelsea.

Inter were involved in prominent transfer sagas with both Lukaku and Dybala during the summer, but only the former ended up signing.

It had been reported that once Lukaku was signed to reinforce the attack, the Nerazzurri’s interest in signing Dybala cooled significantly, as there were by that point already four senior forwards in the squad.

According to Calciomercato, Dybala had been the dream target for Zhang, once the Argentine became available on a free transfer from Serie A rivals Juventus.

However, the report claims, Nerazzurri coach Inzaghi felt that as far as the attacking style of play that he wanted to institute in the team, Lukaku would be the better fit.

In the end, the coach got what he wanted, as Lukaku made a high-profile return to Inter just one season after making a massive money move to Chelsea. According to Calciomercato, however, the club’s President Zhang had always seen Dybala as the preferable target of the two.

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6 hours ago, TheHulk said:

Kovacic had no buy option either from what I remember, Odegaard also had no option and still ended up staying.

Kova did have a buy option (despite what the Sun and Marca falsely claimed a year before we bought him).

It is how we were able to perma buy Kova despite the transfer ban.

Chelsea have agreed to buy midfielder Mateo Kovacic from Real Madrid for £40.3million.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/Chelsea-agree-to-buy-mateo-kovacic-for-ps40-3m-from-real-madrid-a4177091.html

The Blues are able to make the transfer despite being banned from signing players by Fifa for two windows due to breaching rules over the acquisition of foreign minors.

Kovacic spent last season on loan at Stamford Bridge so as long as the switch is finalised by June 30, the Croatia international won’t count as a new player because he is already registered as a member of Chelsea’s squad.

As Standard Sport reported last summer when they first acquired the 25-year-old, there was an option in place to negotiate a permanent switch.

Chelsea were having second thoughts about doing so with Kovacic struggling to make much of an impression last term, creating just two assists and failing to find the net.

 

How did Chelsea sign Kovacic when they have a transfer ban?

https://www.goal.com/en/news/how-did-Chelsea-sign-kovacic-when-they-have-a-transfer-ban/1rg32e770efg31mbkg9yc6aw15

How did Chelsea sign Kovacic?

Despite being banned by FIFA from signing players for the next 12 months until the 2020 summer window, Chelsea managed to acquire Kovacic permanently because of a loophole in their transfer suspension.

The Croatian joined the club on loan for the duration of last season and the agreement between Chelsea and Real Madrid stipulated the Blues had the option to purchase Kovacic for €45m (£40m/$51m) before June 30, 2019.

Because Kovacic's loan deal between the two clubs was signed off on before Chelsea's transfer ban was implemented in February, they can sign the player permanently without flouting the rules.

Last season at the club under Sarri, Kovacic made 51 appearances in all competitions as he helped the club to the Europa League title and a Premier League top-four finish.

Kovacic was technically purchased by Chelsea while they are without a manager, with club legend Frank Lampard set to be appointed in the role imminently.

 

Edited January 11, 2023 by Vesper

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

7 hours ago, Strike said:

Newcastle's thinking in the market has been great. Some good pickups

Not sure. Trippier, Burn, Targett and Woods are absolute pants and not exaclty young either. Imagine we had signed those players, the meltdown here would be unreal. They only struck gold with Guimaraes

On paper they are still way worse than us when everyone is fit, their squad is worth about half of ours.

But they somehow built a real team spirit and great buzz around them, so everyone plays out of their skin. They also did not lose their pace and their leaders in one window

[Pizy 18,897]

4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Not sure. Trippier, Burn, Targett and Woods are absolute pants and not exaclty young either. Imagine we had signed those players, the meltdown here would be unreal. They only struck gold with Guimaraes

On paper they are still way worse than us when everyone is fit, their squad is worth about half of ours.

But they somehow built a real team spirit and great buzz around them, so everyone plays out of their skin. They also did not lose their pace and their leaders in one window

Yeah, you look at that Newcastle squad and there is still maybe 1 player of theirs I’d have at Chelsea and that’s Bruno. They really don’t have that much quality. Just extremely well drilled and everyone who was shocking last season is now somehow in the form of their lives. Basically the opposite of us.

They would comfortably be the least talented club to ever finish in the CL places if they do so this season. 

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1 hour ago, Mário César said:

enzo celebrates its goal with a gesture that seems "I will stay"

well he will not come to Chelsea

tbh don't bother me because lets face the true, 130M€ is a insane fee of money

Im happy that Chelsea will not go forward with this madness deal 

absolute, unmitigated bollocks

Enzo is a rare transformative type of player who can systematically impact the entire warp and weft of a side

he is easily worth £75 to £85m (few but the most dull of knives in the drawer would be up in arms at that price range)

so NOW you are going to label the act of dropping £20 to £30m over that range in order to beat other massive clubs to him as insanity?

We overspent £30m or so ON JUST CUCURELLA ffs

We just shit away £95m on KK (salary + fee)

just in transfer fees since 2015, we have shit away around £750m, and that could rise to 1 BILLION QUID if the Boehly buys who still can go either way go into the bin/bust category:

 

yet you are going bonkers over 20 or 30 million pounds extra spend (if it even is, but I am being generous) in regards to Enzo??? (who also would have been paid a wage FAR below what Bellingham or Rice will command, btw)

this TC board just kills me sometimes

LOLOLOL

 

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57 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Not sure. Trippier, Burn, Targett and Woods are absolute pants and not exaclty young either. Imagine we had signed those players, the meltdown here would be unreal. They only struck gold with Guimaraes

On paper they are still way worse than us when everyone is fit, their squad is worth about half of ours.

But they somehow built a real team spirit and great buzz around them, so everyone plays out of their skin. They also did not lose their pace and their leaders in one window

you are being far too harsh on NUFC

they are better than us at multiple positions:

GK, one of the CB slots (for now, let's see what Badiashile does), RB when we have no Reece (Trippier is a better fullback than Azpi is now), DMF, AMF/RWer (depending on the formastion), and CF (they have two who are better than anything we have atm)

(we do blow them away in depth though)

their best starting players

Nick Pope
Sven Botman 
Dan Burn
Matt Targett  
Kieran Trippier
Bruno Guimarães (world class)
Joelinton (reborn as a MFer)
Miguel Almirón (on fire, tracking to 20 or so league goals)
Allan Saint-Maximin
Alexander Isak 
Callum Wilson