Chelsea Transfers

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

4 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Get this over the line. Please. 

So much more optimism and a lot to look forward to for next season with Enzo and Nkunku here are confirmed already. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Why is Nizaar Kinsella reporting that the club will look at Caicedo, Alvarez, and Mac Allister as alternatives? None of them are the same profile as Enzo Fernandez?

[mkh 601]

EXCLUSIVE! - Chelsea have opened talks with Dion Rankine over a new contract as multiple clubs race to sign him. - Sides from England, France, Holland & Belgium are monitoring Rankine's situation this month – with his current contract set to expire in June.

Via @footyinsider247

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

 

[Vegetable 830]

Can't make the stuff up, piecing together this BS, TB had "disrespected" and offended Benfica on at least three occasions, negotiations broke multiple times, some people went crying to media how offended they are, we should get on our knees to even ask for opportunity to overpay for Enzo, YET offended and disrespected Benfica, who has zero intent to sell, and "don't need to" are still open for negotiation (lol) and are pulling the player from squad to talk further?

Yeah, so either people there are lunatics or people believing this are lunatics, as apparently big chunk of our fans is way more butthurt and offended by fact of holding negotiations, than actual Benfica. That's what Twitter buzz is worth.

And just chill, the 120 million asking price already includes good 40 million of overpay, so don't worry for those guys… Don't know what kind of group madness is working here and who started it, but somehow every analysis, more or less professional portrays Enzo with tame enthusiasm, saying he is interesting in Portugese league and worth to watch, but lacking and still far from done, however somehow TalkChelsea board has zero doubts it's an unquestionable football god, worth every sum of money. Like seriously, there is a very high horse to fall from.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Vegetable

[Vegetable 830]

3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

He's 18 and has an upward trajectory. 

We need a player at RB that is good defensively, technical, and can play some progressive passes. 

If only we had someone like Tariq Lamptey on the books… Oh wait.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

11 hours ago, TheHulk said:

Slowly but surely were reaching Arsenal level of pettiness, yesterday I saw people come up with gymnastics about what it means to be a businessman which reminds me of Ty from AFTV who was so far down his club's ass he couldn't comprehend the idea his club could ever be in the wrong.

We fucked up this deal, fucked up in some possible deals from here on and probably bought us the Rice ticket from next season, which makes me sick and angry.

Are you referring to the situation where Arsenal bid a certain amount + £1 because they believed that was the requirement of a buy out clause? I've never understood what it is they were supposed to have done wrong there. If they were told, presumably by the player's agent, that their bid would meet all the conditions to trigger the clause, then why on Earth would they bid more? It's not Arsenal's fault that the agent hadn't negotiated as solid a buy out as they thought. Although, since that situation, I'm sure clubs are less likely to just take an agent's word on such matters.

Edited January 6, 2023 by OhForAGreavsie

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

10 hours ago, Vesper said:

I am deffo pulling Dembele off any 'even remotely available'-based lists

 

Dembele was not shopping around for the best deal he could get from the market last summer, as was speculated. Instead, he was using the speculation to help him secure the best deal he could get from Barcelona. He never really wanted to leave. I initially bit on the hope of getting a player I've always liked since first watching him when I was trying to check how Boga was progressing at Reims. It soon occurred to me however what Dembele was really doing.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

9 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

ou mean the same Marina that led us to signing a rubbish striker for 95 million from Inter Milan who then proceeded to go back to Inter Milan after 1 season on a loan.

No she didn't. I firmly believe that Roman drove that deal.

[Vegetable 830]

Again a lot of revisionism around Rom - yeah, easy to judge now, but then… He may not be the brightest egg in the basket, but let's remember we were in as situation where getting an efficient striker was vital for our functioning and ending 5 years long suffering. Tuchel prioritized getting one to go any further perhaps. Problem was, there literally wasn't any available. Board could shrug this off or go all in. Lakakka was banging one after another in Inter, seemed motivated, got himself ripped, seemed to improve work ethics… on paper, it was not cheap, but not a ridiculous move. He turned out knobhead, that's a different story. However let's not forget the only other options was to get Icardi for the same money, or try to get Lewy or Benzema, yeah, good luck

Edited January 6, 2023 by Vegetable

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

9 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

I'm quite satisfied that we aren't going to pay the release clause for Enzo.  The kid is good but he's not worth 120 million, far from it.

Have to admit that I don't see €120m worth in the highlight videos but I'm biting my tongue because I didn't see the World Cup. When assessing a player though, it is necessary to judge the input, not the output. Just because a player does extraordinarily well, does not mean it's always an indication of extraordinary ability. Sometimes it really is just your day, your month, or your year.

Last season people were telling me that my prediction from five or six years ago that Connor did not look to be a Chelsea level player was wrong. Now, his name regularly appears on sell lists. I'm not saying that I have been proven right, Connor may still show that I missed something when he was a youth team player. It is clear however that some are now concluding last season may just have been great 'moment' for him, and not an indicator that he is a great player.

I think what I'm saying boils down to form is temporary, class is permanent. The €120m question is which is the case with Enzo, but I'm not in a position to answer that question.

Edited January 6, 2023 by OhForAGreavsie

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

9 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Again a lot of revisionism around Rom - yeah, easy to judge now, but then

Not from me. I have been consistent since autumn 2011, not a typo 2011, that Rom would never be the answer for Chelsea.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

16 hours ago, Vesper said:

Should be a lion on crutches. 🙂 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

27 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Have to admit that I don't see €120m worth in the highlight videos but I'm biting my tongue because I didn't see the World Cup. When assessing a player though, it is necessary to judge the input, not the output. Just because a player does extraordinarily well, does not mean it's always an indication of extraordinary ability. Sometimes it really is just your day, your month, or your year.

Last season people were telling me that my prediction from five or six years ago that Connor did not look to be a Chelsea level player was wrong. Now, his name regularly appears on sell lists. I'm not saying that I have been proven right, Connor may still show that I missed something when he was a youth team player. It is clear however that some are now concluding last season may just have been great 'moment' for him, and not an indicator that he is a great player.

I think what I'm saying boils down to form is temporary, class is permanent. The €120m question is which is the case with Enzo, but I'm not in a position to answer that question.

World Cup performances can also be deceiving as we have seen before. Maybe not for him as from what I’ve seen (CL games mainly) and read hes doing well with Benfica so far (only half a season though) but it has also clouded judgement of clubs in the past on certain players. Not going to pretend like some on here will by saying they’ve watched Enzo Fernandez playing for River Plate and Defensa y Justicia but I am sure someone will say they’ve seen him play from there and that it was obvious he would be whatever he will be then. Theres always one 😂

No doubt he is a good young player, 100%, but I really don’t think hes better than Jude Bellingham. If we could get him or Bellingham for €127m or whatever, I would take Bellingham every single day of the week. I still don’t think we will get Fernandez this January, too much bad blood over this deal already. Or get Bellingham at all.

I think TB & co fucked it the minute they went back on their word.

Edited January 6, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[Tomo 21,751]

35 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Again a lot of revisionism around Rom - yeah, easy to judge now, but then… He may not be the brightest egg in the basket, but let's remember we were in as situation where getting an efficient striker was vital for our functioning and ending 5 years long suffering. Tuchel prioritized getting one to go any further perhaps. Problem was, there literally wasn't any available. Board could shrug this off or go all in. Lakakka was banging one after another in Inter, seemed motivated, got himself ripped, seemed to improve work ethics… on paper, it was not cheap, but not a ridiculous move. He turned out knobhead, that's a different story. However let's not forget the only other options was to get Icardi for the same money, or try to get Lewy or Benzema, yeah, good luck

But that's the problem, we just looked at the top line and thought adding a poacher to a team that created loads of chances takes us up a level without realizing we created said chances because of excellent link up play and elite movement and pressing, all of which Lukaku can't perform to even an average level. And he already "turned knobhead" at United and even here once before so we can't play the blindsided card on that one.

No hindsight needed, it was a clear disaster from the get go.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Tomo

[TheHulk 2,479]

2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

 

I have a hard time believing this is not dead unless Costa has a change of heart which I doubt, we won't pay the buyout, if only the American at least lowballed with something closer to what he promised initially maybe Benfica wouldn't be as pissed but now it's likely dead in the water unless some miraculous turn of events.

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[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

16 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

I have a hard time believing this is not dead unless Costa has a change of heart which I doubt, we won't pay the buyout, if only the American at least lowballed with something closer to what he promised initially maybe Benfica wouldn't be as pissed but now it's likely dead in the water unless some miraculous turn of events.

Such a negative nelly you, just because some prick with a blue tick posts something on twitter doesn't mean it's the gospel truth, your problem is you don't like potter or TB, when we sign Enzo you will have another excuse and then another, TB not going anywhere, sure o heard he couldn't see the club for 10 years? Maybe that's bullshit I dunno.

[TheHulk 2,479]

Just now, YorkshireBlue said:

Such a negative nelly you, just because some prick with a blue tick posts something on twitter doesn't mean it's the gospel truth, your problem is you don't like potter or TB, when we sign Enzo you will have another excuse and then another, TB not going anywhere, sure o heard he couldn't see the club for 10 years? Maybe that's bullshit I dunno.

Can you and people alike just stop posting already with this twitter blue tick posts, everyone knows this is true, there is more than enough evidence its just that some of you are completely refusing to accept it and keep defending the clearly idiocy that happened.

 

Ask yourself this why was Benfica willing to negotiate from 1st January to 3rd and after that suddenly out of the moon said we only accept buyout clause or nothing, why did the Benfica coach went on a tirade in his presser and no it wasn't Enzo just skipping training and going to Argentina because that happened on 2nd January and Benfica was still willing to negotiate the next day. It's clear as day the reason negotiations stopped was because of the lowball, they tried changing terms from the moment the got at the table on 1st January and Benfica still gave the American a chance and told him to resolve this in 48h otherwise no deal, and after that was happened still lowballed.

Why would Potter matter I don't even talk about him a lot because there are much more problems than just him, and if we don't sign Enzo (which is pretty likely) you will pretend he wasn't worth it, and of course when we get Mudryc by overpaying more than Arsenal you will say it was a shrewd business by the owner. 

[TheHulk 2,479]

14 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Such a negative nelly you, just because some prick with a blue tick posts something on twitter doesn't mean it's the gospel truth, your problem is you don't like potter or TB, when we sign Enzo you will have another excuse and then another, TB not going anywhere, sure o heard he couldn't see the club for 10 years? Maybe that's bullshit I dunno.

Also way to go by saying I don't like the American as if I'm the problem. Almost everyone here realizes he sucks at this point, there is no denying it, if anything you should ask yourself why you defend him what has he done good since the summer to warrant trust in him.

 

I don't care if he is here for the next 10 or 100 years to be honest, I'm not gonna pat him on his back and tell him great job mister when he gets takes a wrong decision one after another. When he starts taking good decisions, people will show up and start praising him no problem, but don't be surprised people are angry with him and rightfully criticize all his dumb decisions thus far it's how democracy works.