King Kante 1,643 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I honestly don't see why everyone is so keen on Dembele. He has been incredibly underwhelming and injury prone since going to Barca bar these last 9 months. His attitude to training and diet is also very questionable. Then we come to the fact he hasn't ever really performed to a great level in a big match. The cynic in me think the only reason he has recently raised his effort levels in the past 9 months is due to him needing a new contract. Only hope I have here is he a TT have some kind bond so he keeps his level up if he moves here. Also, not a massive fan of Sterling but would prefer him to Dembele. I question a little how much Sterling has in the tank and I am not sure he is what I call elite. Raphina is the AM I would go for personally as he has a great attitude and has carried Leeds on his back at times this season. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Superblue_1986 said: It'll be interesting to see how PSG deal with Neymar. They surely cannot keep him, Mbappe and Messi on the mega wages they're all on, and move for other big names on very well paid contracts this summer like Dembele. Like others have suggested, I can't see where he goes this summer. I think there's a very real possibility that if PSG want him out (at the request of appeasing Mbappe) they might have to let him leave on loan and cover some of his wages. If anyone was in for him I think they would hold the negotiating power. A season on loan under our terms I wouldn't be against, especially if we can't get Dembele. There were rumors a couple of years ago that he could go to Real Madrid. I could only see them as a possible destination. The only other clubs that could afford his wages are the Manchester clubs but City have zero need for him since they’re loaded in that area and United have (probably) learned their lesson about going for flashy names rather than players who fit their team. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Tchouameni has an agreement with Real Madrid and prefers them over other clubs but there is no agreement with Monaco yet. PSG are able to make big offer for Tchouameni, hence the transfer is being delayed. Monaco are now asking Real Madrid for more than the €80m originally requested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Strike said: But will he press? I'd rather get Dembele or even Raphinha, Gnabry, anyone in their prime, approaching their prime, over 30 year old Neymar. I would agree but you would probably look at accommodating that in the same way we always did with hazard. He's obviously supremely talented and could justify a more free role if he's creating and scoring. Unfortunately for Lukaku he's just not a good enough footballer to justify that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I would agree but you would probably look at accommodating that in the same way we always did with hazard. He's obviously supremely talented and could justify a more free role if he's creating and scoring. Unfortunately for Lukaku he's just not a good enough footballer to justify that. The difference with Hazard is we had plenty of resale value. If Neymar flops, we are stuck with an alexis sanchez. A loan would be ideal but again, it isn't addressing the issue and most of the loan would be spent adapting to the league. That being said, the wingers on offer this year do not really entice me. I do not want Dembele or Gnabry anywhere near Chelsea. Raphinha may be a shout, but for the right price as he has only proven himself in Leeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hashishi said: The difference with Hazard is we had plenty of resale value. If Neymar flops, we are stuck with an alexis sanchez. A loan would be ideal but again, it isn't addressing the issue and most of the loan would be spent adapting to the league. That being said, the wingers on offer this year do not really entice me. I do not want Dembele or Gnabry anywhere near Chelsea. Raphinha may be a shout, but for the right price as he has only proven himself in Leeds. Neymar will always have resale value. He’s one of the 3 most famous footballers on the planet. He could come here and lose a leg and you’d still have clubs lining up to take him off our hands because he’d sell millions of shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hashishi said: The difference with Hazard is we had plenty of resale value. If Neymar flops, we are stuck with an alexis sanchez. A loan would be ideal but again, it isn't addressing the issue and most of the loan would be spent adapting to the league. That being said, the wingers on offer this year do not really entice me. I do not want Dembele or Gnabry anywhere near Chelsea. Raphinha may be a shout, but for the right price as he has only proven himself in Leeds. I definitely wouldn't look beyond a loan right now. In the same way that we've been stuck in positions before with high earners we no longer want and teams have been able to pull our pants down with loan deals in their favour. If a similar opportunity presented itself with Neymar I wouldn't be against taking a punt with it because he is a much more naturally gifted talent than all of our other attackers. Any bigger/longer commitment than that in my opinion wouldn't be a good idea at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Pizy said: Neymar will always have resale value. He’s one of the 3 most famous footballers on the planet. He could come here and lose a leg and you’d still have clubs lining up to take him off our hands because he’d sell millions of shirts. If that's the case, how come no one's queuing up to buy him this summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Pizy said: Neymar will always have resale value. He’s one of the 3 most famous footballers on the planet. He could come here and lose a leg and you’d still have clubs lining up to take him off our hands because he’d sell millions of shirts. Let's see how easy PSG find it to offload him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, Strike said: If that's the case, how come no one's queuing up to buy him this summer? Because he’s on obscene wages. What I’m saying is that if he had reasonable wage demands there would be a queue a mile long for him. He’s not impossible for PSG to get rid of because of his declining ability, it’s because nobody else wants to pay him a million € a month or whatever insane salary he’s earning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) Jules Kounde is expected to be #Chelsea's first signing this summer. Josko Gvardiol is a target, while the Blues are 'huge admirers' of Gleison Bremer. Pau Torres and Jose Gimenez also shortlisted. Edited May 26, 2022 by milka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Just saw Romano tweet that things are moving quickly with Villa and Diego Carlos. Are they really going to agree to let both of their best CB’s go at once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Is the "Inter Milan need to sell to balance the books" story true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pizy said: Just saw Romano tweet that things are moving quickly with Villa and Diego Carlos. Are they really going to agree to let both of their best CB’s go at once? They probably want to sell Carlos so under less pressure to sell Kounde being the more valuable of the two and that way they can try to hold out for his release clause knowing we need centre backs. If they try that I'd move on to target number two at the back and get them first instead. They won't want to keep Kounde next season unhappy with his deal running down further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said: Is the "Inter Milan need to sell to balance the books" story true? Yes, they need to raise €60m profit before June 30. Marotta pretty much confirmed they will sacrifice 1 high profile player (Bastoni, Skriniar, or Barella). Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Now confirmed, Villa sign Diego Carlos. That surely can’t be goo for our Koundé pursuit. They get that deal done seemingly instantly yet Sevilla act like total cunts when we’ve been working in signing Koundé… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Yes, they need to raise €60m profit before June 30. Marotta pretty much confirmed they will sacrifice 1 high profile player (Bastoni, Skriniar, or Barella). Thanks! We should REALLY pounce on this. Just now, Pizy said: Now confirmed, Billa sign Diego Carlos. That surely can’t be goo for our Koundé pursuit. They get that deal done seemingly instantly yet Sevilla act like total cunts when we’ve been working in signing Koundé… Koundè wont be happy if he has to stay another season, i think he would definitely push hard for a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Pizy said: Sell Werner and one of Ziyech or Pulisic, buy Nkunku, and sign Dembele on a free. Much as I’d love to move Lukaku I don’t think there’s a chance of that. So yes, he’ll still be here. Between he, Nkunku, and Havertz that should be plenty of goals. I wouldn't put my hopes on Nkunku. Have you forgotten Werner's numbers at the same team prior to joining us? I believe you should never buy someone coming off their first notable season unless it's something extraordinary. 20 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Yes, they need to raise €60m profit before June 30. Marotta pretty much confirmed they will sacrifice 1 high profile player (Bastoni, Skriniar, or Barella). We should be all over Bastoni or Barella if they are even remotely available. Edited May 26, 2022 by LAM09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Blues Forever said: Yes, they need to raise €60m profit before June 30. Marotta pretty much confirmed they will sacrifice 1 high profile player (Bastoni, Skriniar, or Barella). We should be going all out for Barella. Gvardiol and Bremer should be our CBs. Perisic on a free. Leaves room in the budget for one attacker like Raphinha. Kepa should go to Newcastle. They can have Lukaku too if they like. AC and Rudi leaving, probably Ziyech following them out. Wish Jorginho would go back to Italy. Alonso and Azpi are past their prime. We should keep the latter for CB and WB cover. Team next year GK- Mendy, Back up, Youngster CB - Silva, Azpi, Trev, Gvardiol, Bremer, Colwill WB- James, Chilwell, Perisic, Azpi CM- Kova, Gallagher, Kante, Barella, RLC AM - Puli, Werner, CHO, Raphinha, Mount ST - Havertz, Lukaku, Broja This team still isn't getting the league but will get us top 4 at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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