coolhead23 1,147 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, Jason said: If we somehow sign a GK, LB, CB, Havertz and even Rice on top of Werner and Ziyech this summer, am gonna expect some form of title challenge next season. At worst, we better finish in the Top 4 COMFORTABLY and not get embroiled in another stupid scramble for it! Top 4 should be bare minimum, Top 3 should be the target for next season. Anything over that would be magic, anything under would be thrash with this revamp Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 17 hours ago, Jype said: Gosens' stats this season are insane, 9 goals and 8 assists in Serie A. But positionally he's a lot like Alonso, way more comfortable playing as a wing-back rather than a traditional full-back in a four man backline. Not convinced by his defensive abilities. I'd also be wary of buying anyone from Atalanta. They've been an amazing team this season but I think not many individuals from that squad could replicate the same level of performances for another team. Kind of like Monaco 2017, could be some real gems in there (Mbappe, Bernardo Silva, Fabinho) but just as easily also total duds (Lemar, Bakayoko etc.) Monaco 2016/17 was indeed a crapshoot gems 2 Brazil DF Fabinho 8 Portugal MF João Moutinho one of the most underrated players in the last 20 years, he is a god in Portugal, he has well over 800 games for club and country, 15 trophies, including Euro 2016, Europa League, and UEFA Nations League 2019, if Wolves make it to the EL final, he will have 61 games played this season around 5000 minutes, at age 33, baller 9 Colombia FW Radamel Falcao (Captain) (he was only a bust when he was playing in a still injured state in the EPL) 320 goals for club and country , From 2009-13 he was a monster, 142 goals in 4 seasons (34, 38, 36, 34), then again on that Monaco Mbappe team (30 goals) and was the striker on FIFA World XI in 2012 10 Portugal MF Bernardo Silva 29 France FW Kylian Mbappé 34 France DF Abdou Diallo — France FW Allan Saint-Maximin (was on loan at Bastia) busts (big money only) 14 France MF Tiémoué Bakayoko 19 France DF Djibril Sidibé 23 France DF Benjamin Mendy (so far I say bust) 27 France MF Thomas Lemar still to be determined or decent not great 5 Brazil DF Jemerson decent, not anything great CB 18 France FW Valère Germain (he did have 5 good to very good topflight seasons, and will end up with over 100 topflight goals) 24 Italy DF Andrea Raggi (over 400 topflight career games) 25 Poland DF Kamil Glik (close to 400 topflight games and will get there, as is 32yo) 38 Mali DF Almamy Touré TBD just turned 24, still may end up being a decent, but not great RB — Portugal MF Rony Lopes (was on loan at Lille) TBD as after a superb 2017/18 season (17 goals, 12 assists) injuries have fucked him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted July 21, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted July 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, Puliiszola said: This is based on exactly what? Rudiger is horrid defensively. Has no positional awareness. Gets bullied by literally every physical striker. Makes Antonio look like Drogba. The first CB out should be rudiger. Already 27 (so he is in his "Prime"), injury-prone and just not good enough. Rudiger should be kept around to be our agent for German football players. Johnnyeye, Puliiszola, killer1257 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jason said: Rudiger should be kept around to be our agent for German football players. This I agree. 😂😂 killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, Puliiszola said: This is based on exactly what? Rudiger is horrid defensively. Has no positional awareness. Gets bullied by literally every physical striker. Makes Antonio look like Drogba. The first CB out should be rudiger. Already 27 (so he is in his "Prime"), injury-prone and just not good enough. not going to argue this with you you have your option, I most definitely have mine Zouma will never be a good enough player to be a top Chels player, he is too limited, he will never reach the level Rudiger was the first 2 years here (and hopefully soon gets back too) Zouma is simply not good enough on the ball, it FAR outstrips any other weakness Rudiger has, and is is just silly to say Rudiger gets bullied by every physical striker, he has been a bully boy plenty of times in the past 3 years. To say he has not is just a flat out gaslight. there are people on here (like you apparently) with massive agendas I bashed Alonso for ages, but long ago backed off when he upped his game as best he could, I bashed Willian (mainly because of that £65m turndown and then how he slowed down play under Sarri) BUT he also has a shedload of intangibles and I REALLY want him to renew unless we but a winger (which is not going to happen if we buy Havertz, and then, thank fuck, Havertz can play RW if needed as well) I defended AC for ages, but he is just shit, same for Kepa BUT the people who are Mount and Rudiger haters here NEVER relent, never give up, almost never give any credit so no not going to play sorry ulsterchelsea and 1chelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, Vesper said: not going to argue this with you you have your option, I most definitely have mine Zouma will never be a good enough player to be a top Chels player, he is too limited, he will never reach the level Rudiger was the first 2 years here (and hopefully soon gets back too) Zouma is simply not good enough on the ball, it FAR outstrips any other weakness Rudiger has, and is is just silly to say Rudiger gets bullied by every physical striker, he has been a bully boy plenty of times in the past 3 years. To say he has not is just a flat out gaslight. there are people on here (like you apparently) with massive agendas I bashed Alonso for ages, but long ago backed off when he upped his game as best he could, I bashed Willian (mainly because of that £65m turndown and then how he slowed down play under Sarri) BUT he also has a shedload of intangibles and I REALLY want him to renew unless we but a winger (which is not going to happen if we buy Havertz, and then, thank fuck, Havertz can play RW if needed as well) I defended AC for ages, but he is just shit, same for Kepa BUT the people who are Mount and Rudiger haters here NEVER relent, never give up, almost never give any credit so no not going to play sorry LOL. I came on here less than a month ago, so please dont play the victim card with me. I have seen enough of your posts to understand that you love to explain your points either with stats or figures. If you are having trouble defending Rudiger, it should be quite explanatory of how poor he has been. As for Mount, love the dude. Show me one post of mine where I have critized him. Gives his all for the shirt. Also, I am not a rudiger agenda-ist. I am simply going on meritocracy. He has been absymal this season while ZOUMA has been our best CB with no doubt. You put in an article showing that "RUdiger has not been as bad" and go on and want zouma to be sold, yet are calling other people to have an agenda. LOL. So agree to disagree but stop with all this nonsense about agendas and stop potraying rudiger as some scapegoat. His performances merit criticism and to even think about selling zouma before him is laughing and actual gas lighting. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, coolhead23 said: Instead of Rajkovic (who i havent seen to be honest) why not Onana ... he is available and decent, believe he mentioned it was his last season at Ajax. For LB, I know it is an overkill but lets get Telles and Tagliafico, sell both Alonso & Emerson ... Theo wouldnt happen for me. For RB, have hope for Reece, he has the potential. Wait and watch CB is what we really need to sort ... not well verse who is good there so cant comment Will keep CHO/Tammy because we have the new rule and would love to see if these players are fighting it out. Can't say I have seen Rajkovic but I am now against a Onana signing, whereas before I was open to it. My reasons for this are: 1) He hasn't got the greatest hands. He saves a lot of stuff but he doesn't really ever catch it or palm it away properly, this results in the ball going straight back into dangerous areas. I have a friend who supports Ajax that I recently spoke to and he said, they call him a teflon GK as nothing sticks. 2) ACoN commitments are too much. Yes, there is not one this year but it is a bi-annual event. We cannot afford to have a GK1 missing for 6 weeks in the most important part of the season every two years. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOIRO 64 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Emerson 22m → Tagliafico 22m Alonso 25m → Gosens 25m? I hope these two transfers !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandomi10 82 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Chelsea have enquired to #Inter Milan about Skriniar. More to come in the next days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, Puliiszola said: LOL. I came on here less than a month ago, so please dont play the victim card with me. I have seen enough of your posts to understand that you love to explain your points either with stats or figures. If you are having trouble defending Rudiger, it should be quite explanatory of how poor he has been. As for Mount, love the dude. Show me one post of mine where I have critized him. Gives his all for the shirt. Also, I am not a rudiger agenda-ist. I am simply going on meritocracy. He has been absymal this season while ZOUMA has been our best CB with no doubt. You put in an article showing that "RUdiger has not been as bad" and go on and want zouma to be sold, yet are calling other people to have an agenda. LOL. So agree to disagree but stop with all this nonsense about agendas and stop potraying rudiger as some scapegoat. His performances merit criticism and to even think about selling zouma before him is laughing and actual gas lighting. I was making a general statement on the hate, but if the shoe fits.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 This is a timely tweet about CHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jason said: To get Rice, it will be likely we would need him to put in a transfer request. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,944 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, King Kante said: To get Rice, it will be likely we would need him to put in a transfer request. Yep. Was just coming here to say this. It'll take him really pushing for the move + a mega transfer fee (because he's English and their best player) for us to secure this one. And I'm not sure the club will sanction mega money on Rice if we do so on Havertz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, Vesper said: I was making a general statement on the hate, but if the shoe fits.................... Whatever floats your boat. 😂 killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Nice try Chelsea hahahaGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jason said: Course they have. They'd be fucking mental not to Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Westham are not stupid after all. Barkley and Batshuayi would not massively imrpove Westham tho. They are packed with players of comparable quality in midfield and attack and they know they can get mega bucks for them. Still I can imagine Rice ending up here even though I doubt he will go anywhere this summer. He still has ages left on his contract. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Chelsea are prepared to more than double Dean Henderson's wages in an attempt to prise him away from Manchester United. Chelsea have made contact with Henderson's representatives over a move. - Manchester Evening News killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,944 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I actually do think Batshuayi would do quite well at WH. Barkley, too, since he'd be playing much more consistently. But yeah, WH have this delusion that they're above signings like these two. Even though nearly every big money signing they've made recently has been a massive bust. As for Skriniar, have a look at his YouTube compilations. I just watched and was smiling/laughing for much of it. He's like a wild, out of control animal. Runs around all over the pitch and bulldozes everyone. He's so damn aggressive. I'm really not sure he's the CB we need at all. We need a calm, steady, disciplined CB. Bosnian Blue and Supermonkey92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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