Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 The Morata money has paid for this, let that sink in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Fernando and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 46 minutes ago, killer1257 said: I also forgot to tell that he is no world class finisher either. Yeah right, Chelsea fans are famous for their patience and give young players the room for improvement. Chelsea fans slaughter Tammy (22 years old) every week for missing chances in PL, especially headers which is a weakness of Werner too, even when he plays injured he gets slaughtered. Why should it be different with Werner who has a lot to work on? At least get a player like Havertz or Lautaro Martinez that have higher chances of making it in Pl and are near World class and in my opinion, Lautaro is world class. I really do not want us to play 4-4-2. Hate that system and if we play that, we need to sell 3 out of Kova RLC Barkley Billy Kante Jorgi Mount. I also do not think that Lamps is a master of 4-4-2 either. I am not negative. I am realistic about Werner and I asked my German Chelsea friends if they agree and they seem to see the same weaknesses as I see it. I would love to be wrong though. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk I'm not pretending to know but this seems a realistic assessment to me. It also fits with the claim that we have a good chance of getting him, whereas I see no hope that we might get players such as Havertz or Lautaro. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I think it is more credible that Jan reports about the Chelsea signing. Many journalists would hope it was wrong when they have been saying he is going to Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 People need to realise that Ziyech is Willian's replacement and Werner is Pedro's. Probably means no Sancho but I do not think he is moving this summer anyway. Next important areas to sort are: CB, LB, GK and a strong No.6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I suppose Liverpool can still hijack this but if Werner's camp are making progress with us on a deal, then it suggests Liverpool have decided against buying him (unless they suddenly change their mind). Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILeoniBlu 37 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 49 minutes ago, killer1257 said: I don't rate him and my German Chelsea fans that I talked to do not rate him either. Not a good CF and only works as a winger or second striker. We do not play 4-4-2 and I do not think Lamps likes this formation either. Werner is a small, very weak, technicaly not a World class Player with average passing. You can be a small CF, but you need World class technical abilities like Aguero. He is no Aguero. But hope I am wrong. Reece James great crosses will be useless for Werner Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk You took away my enthusiasm. Joking aside, you certainly know him better than me. Hope it goes well killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 You criticize Werner for being weak anf small (when he is average kn both size and strength) and you list Lautaro who isn’t a midget weakling and not cut for PL as world class. Werner is the way better, more affordable and feasible deal here.Read some posts ago where I clarified it.But I will tell you it again. In my opinion, you can be physically weak as a CF and still be a top class CF in Pl, but you need to have world class technical abilities like Aguero. Lautaro Martinez clearly has that and I see in Havertz that he has that in him too. Werner does not have that. Or there is a second type of striker that can make it in PL. Tall and physically strong. An example would be Diego Costa. Tall and strong, but has very bad technical abilities. Werner is 180 cm. Reece James world class crosses will be useless for him. Tammy at least reaches those crosses and then misses.Everything in between of those two striker types is Batshuayi level. Batsman is good at everything, but a master of nothing. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 OMG!!! I JUMPED WHEN I HEARD THE NEWS!!! SO EXCITING!!! WELCOME!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 The thing with Liverpool is they have three outstanding front players, all content it seems the club, there has to be an element of caution of breaking up that trio from their point of view. Werner will not want to play second fiddle to any of them, especially with the EURO's coming up. ulsterchelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Rapkun said: If Liverpool decides to make a move now that we're in a more advanced stage, the situation could change completely . I still remember the Ox deal. Reported they don’t want to pay the fee. He’s ours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 You took away my enthusiasm. [emoji20] Joking aside, you certainly know him better than me. Hope it goes well [emoji185]I hope I am wrong though. Would love a German player to perform for us.Last good German player was Ballack Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk ILeoniBlu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, killer1257 said: I also forgot to tell that he is no world class finisher either. Yeah right, Chelsea fans are famous for their patience and give young players the room for improvement. Chelsea fans slaughter Tammy (22 years old) every week for missing chances in PL, especially headers which is a weakness of Werner too, even when he plays injured he gets slaughtered. Why should it be different with Werner who has a lot to work on? At least get a player like Havertz or Lautaro Martinez that have higher chances of making it in Pl and are near World class and in my opinion, Lautaro is world class. I really do not want us to play 4-4-2. Hate that system and if we play that, we need to sell 3 out of Kova RLC Barkley Billy Kante Jorgi Mount. I also do not think that Lamps is a master of 4-4-2 either. I am not negative. I am realistic about Werner and I asked my German Chelsea friends if they agree and they seem to see the same weaknesses as I see it. I would love to be wrong though. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk And you haven't slaughtered other young Chelsea players this season? I guess we'll agree to disagree and see how it all pans out but I'm sure you or your friends aren't the only ones who have seen Werner on a regular basis. Others do and can probably see that he is not perfect at this point but they are far more optimistic over the signing, especially in the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Batsman is good at everything You're being generous there. Superblue, NikkiCFC and ulsterchelsea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Reported they don’t want to pay the fee. He’s ours It could still blow up in our face if Liverpool suddenly change their mind and say "fuck it, go sign him!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,914 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Two of the best attacking talents in Europe potentially sealed and delivered before the transfer window even opens. 😂😂😂 Before qualification for next season's CL is even assured. 😂😂😂 Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 This from Liverpool's usual reliable source... Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 49 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Funny that we Germans do not rate him highly while international fans go nuts over him Hahaha it is the same here with Jovic. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 And you haven't slaughtered other young Chelsea players this season? I guess we'll agree to disagree and see how it all pans out but I'm sure you or your friends aren't the only ones who have seen Werner on a regular basis. Others do and can probably see that he is not perfect at this point but they are far more optimistic over the signing, especially in the long term. I hope I am wrong and you are right. I am usually very good at judging players; regardless if it is youth or Chelsea first team. The only time I was wrong regarding Chelsea transfers , Chelsea Youth players or our first team was that I thought Bakoyoko would be an amazing signing for us.I also thought Filipe Luis would be better but he never got a fair chance, so I would not count him in that list. I just hope we did not fuck up the Morata moneyGesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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