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31 minutes ago, milka said:

6 finals 3 big trophy , easy  top 4 in two season nobody want to play agains us  i want that bad time again . The only thing they had to do was to support him, not to interfere with his work and to get him a elite striker  and DM.

Impossible to compare then vs now. He had a squad full of experienced talent many of whom could be considered to be amongst the best in the world in their position, with the experience to deliver results and manage games: Kante, Kovacic, Mendy, Azpi, Thiago, Rudiger, Jorgi, etc, and he got top 4 with 67 and then 74 pts, before Arsenal improved a lot and Newcastle, Brighton etc emerged. The league has been getting harder every year and is brutally hard now, everyone in the top 10 is pretty excellent.

Tuchel has now lost the league in Germany despite gaining Harry Kane who has chipped in 32 goals in 28 appearances.

Calling for him back is like calling for Mourinho back. Sure, they did special things here, with the squads and the state of football at the time, and the trophies they got were very impressive. But the situation at the club now and in the league now is just not the same and they do not have the patience to build something over time. Poch is pretty meh but he's much better suited to our situation than either of them would be, frankly continuing with Graham Potter would have been better than a move for Tuchel, Mou or Conte type managers. They are all phenomenal beasts in the right situation but this situation is not the one they excel in.

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1 hour ago, milka said:

6 finals 3 big trophy , easy  top 4 in two season nobody want to play agains us  i want that bad time again . The only thing they had to do was to support him, not to interfere with his work and to get him a elite striker  and DM.

We supported him with Lukaku, Auba, Sterling... how that ended?

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23 hours ago, Mhsc said:

Impossible to compare then vs now. He had a squad full of experienced talent many of whom could be considered to be amongst the best in the world in their position, with the experience to deliver results and manage games: Kante, Kovacic, Mendy, Azpi, Thiago, Rudiger, Jorgi, etc, and he got top 4 with 67 and then 74 pts, before Arsenal improved a lot and Newcastle, Brighton etc emerged. The league has been getting harder every year and is brutally hard now, everyone in the top 10 is pretty excellent.

Tuchel has now lost the league in Germany despite gaining Harry Kane who has chipped in 32 goals in 28 appearances.

Calling for him back is like calling for Mourinho back. Sure, they did special things here, with the squads and the state of football at the time, and the trophies they got were very impressive. But the situation at the club now and in the league now is just not the same and they do not have the patience to build something over time. Poch is pretty meh but he's much better suited to our situation than either of them would be, frankly continuing with Graham Potter would have been better than a move for Tuchel, Mou or Conte type managers. They are all phenomenal beasts in the right situation but this situation is not the one they excel in.

We were in the title race at the same level with citeh and pool until James and Chilwell's injuries until then we were playing pure football and even beating teams like Juventus 4-0.The team was assembled and needed slight improvements as a DM and someone to score the thousands of chances that Werner missed even people like CHO and RLC was class that season .

 

 

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3 hours ago, milka said:

We were in the title race at the same level with citeh and pool until James and Chilwell's injuries until then we were playing pure football and even beating teams like Juventus 4-0.The team was assembled and needed slight improvements as a DM and someone to score the thousands of chances that Werner missed even people like CHO and RLC was class that season .

 

 

That is all true but it doesn't change anything that I said...

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