The Tuchel Thread

[Mhsc 1,098]

I miss his passion and the way he grabbed Conte's hand and stared him in the eyes... But not much else.

[Fernando 6,585]

I don't want him back. Under him we made really bad buys. 

[milka 3,393]

6 finals 3 big trophy , easy  top 4 in two season nobody want to play agains us  i want that bad time again . The only thing they had to do was to support him, not to interfere with his work and to get him a elite striker  and DM.

[Mhsc 1,098]

31 minutes ago, milka said:

6 finals 3 big trophy , easy  top 4 in two season nobody want to play agains us  i want that bad time again . The only thing they had to do was to support him, not to interfere with his work and to get him a elite striker  and DM.

Impossible to compare then vs now. He had a squad full of experienced talent many of whom could be considered to be amongst the best in the world in their position, with the experience to deliver results and manage games: Kante, Kovacic, Mendy, Azpi, Thiago, Rudiger, Jorgi, etc, and he got top 4 with 67 and then 74 pts, before Arsenal improved a lot and Newcastle, Brighton etc emerged. The league has been getting harder every year and is brutally hard now, everyone in the top 10 is pretty excellent.

Tuchel has now lost the league in Germany despite gaining Harry Kane who has chipped in 32 goals in 28 appearances.

Calling for him back is like calling for Mourinho back. Sure, they did special things here, with the squads and the state of football at the time, and the trophies they got were very impressive. But the situation at the club now and in the league now is just not the same and they do not have the patience to build something over time. Poch is pretty meh but he's much better suited to our situation than either of them would be, frankly continuing with Graham Potter would have been better than a move for Tuchel, Mou or Conte type managers. They are all phenomenal beasts in the right situation but this situation is not the one they excel in.

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

1 hour ago, milka said:

6 finals 3 big trophy , easy  top 4 in two season nobody want to play agains us  i want that bad time again . The only thing they had to do was to support him, not to interfere with his work and to get him a elite striker  and DM.

We supported him with Lukaku, Auba, Sterling... how that ended?

[milka 3,393]

23 hours ago, Mhsc said:

Impossible to compare then vs now. He had a squad full of experienced talent many of whom could be considered to be amongst the best in the world in their position, with the experience to deliver results and manage games: Kante, Kovacic, Mendy, Azpi, Thiago, Rudiger, Jorgi, etc, and he got top 4 with 67 and then 74 pts, before Arsenal improved a lot and Newcastle, Brighton etc emerged. The league has been getting harder every year and is brutally hard now, everyone in the top 10 is pretty excellent.

Tuchel has now lost the league in Germany despite gaining Harry Kane who has chipped in 32 goals in 28 appearances.

Calling for him back is like calling for Mourinho back. Sure, they did special things here, with the squads and the state of football at the time, and the trophies they got were very impressive. But the situation at the club now and in the league now is just not the same and they do not have the patience to build something over time. Poch is pretty meh but he's much better suited to our situation than either of them would be, frankly continuing with Graham Potter would have been better than a move for Tuchel, Mou or Conte type managers. They are all phenomenal beasts in the right situation but this situation is not the one they excel in.

We were in the title race at the same level with citeh and pool until James and Chilwell's injuries until then we were playing pure football and even beating teams like Juventus 4-0.The team was assembled and needed slight improvements as a DM and someone to score the thousands of chances that Werner missed even people like CHO and RLC was class that season .

 

 

Edited April 8, 2024 by milka

[Mhsc 1,098]

3 hours ago, milka said:

We were in the title race at the same level with citeh and pool until James and Chilwell's injuries until then we were playing pure football and even beating teams like Juventus 4-0.The team was assembled and needed slight improvements as a DM and someone to score the thousands of chances that Werner missed even people like CHO and RLC was class that season .

 

 

That is all true but it doesn't change anything that I said...

[Fernando 6,585]

Is it possible that Tuchel wins another CL? 

Bayern vs Real Madrid...

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

Tommy T won't become the second manager to take three different sides to the Champions League final. Shame, I d have liked him to complete that achievement.

Meanwhile, Harry Kane will end yet another season without a major trophy. You can take the boy out of Spurs....

[JFKvsNixon 55]

20 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Tommy T won't become the second manager to take three different sides to the Champions League final. Shame, I d have liked him to complete that achievement.

Meanwhile, Harry Kane will end yet another season without a major trophy. You can take the boy out of Spurs....

I've heard that one of the punishments that the Premier League is considering for Man City is forcing them to have Harry Kane in their squad for the next 5 years. I think that 5 years without any silverware would be an appropriate punishment.

Edited May 9, 2024 by JFKvsNixon
Typo as usual

[mkh 601]

💬Breaking News💬

Thomas Tuchel is negotiating for the position as national coach of England @welt @BILD_Sport

[Vytis33 1,276]

Tuchel to England and Southgate to United soon?

 

[Vytis33 1,276]

 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Best appointment the FA could have got in all fairness. We all know what TT can do when it comes to big games and particularly in game management. Plus Tuchel cannot fall out with owners/chairmen/sporting directors regarding transfers like he did here, PSG or Dortmund. So maybe international football will be an excellent fit for him. 

Looks like a lot of outrage and usual talk from the usual has been idiots like Harry Redknapp, Dean Ashton, no doubt that fat nobody Jamie O’Hara and Garth Crooks will be next…. Obviously issue is TT not being English. Fuck me, who was the last great English manager? Sir Bobby Robson? Talking like theres a plethora of good English coaches available. I mean if that was to be the defining criteria that they go for an Englishmen, who would it of been? Sean Dyche, Eddie Howe or Graham Potter? Talk about scraping the barrel. Not only that, would say from the outside looking in, a huge reason why Southgate resigned was due to the discontent from the fans and media over style and manner in which they were getting results….

I mean the best managers to manage in the history of the PL are all anything but English - Pep, Fergie, Jose, Wenger, Klopp. Same with the best players to have played there. Could be the appointment that makes Englan take that next step - although as a Scotsman I hope not 😂

Edited October 16, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Same with the best players to have played there. Could be the appointment that makes Englan take that next step - although as a Scotsman I hope not 😂

There's been some pretty good 'english' players who have starred in the premier league, we used to have a number of those guys in the World XI and other lineups over the years. 

Lamps, Gerrard, Rio, JT, Ashley Cole, Scholes, Beckham, Shearer to name a few...😆

[Vesper 30,219]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Best appointment the FA could have got in all fairness. We all know what TT can do when it comes to big games and particularly in game management. Plus Tuchel cannot fall out with owners/chairmen/sporting directors regarding transfers like he did here, PSG or Dortmund. So maybe international football will be an excellent fit for him. 

Looks like a lot of outrage and usual talk from the usual has been idiots like Harry Redknapp, Dean Ashton, no doubt that fat nobody Jamie O’Hara and Garth Crooks will be next…. Obviously issue is TT not being English. Fuck me, who was the last great English manager? Sir Bobby Robson? Talking like theres a plethora of good English coaches available. I mean if that was to be the defining criteria that they go for an Englishmen, who would it of been? Sean Dyche, Eddie Howe or Graham Potter? Talk about scraping the barrel. Not only that, would say from the outside looking in, a huge reason why Southgate resigned was due to the discontent from the fans and media over style and manner in which they were getting results….

I mean the best managers to manage in the history of the PL are all anything but English - Pep, Fergie, Jose, Wenger, Klopp. Same with the best players to have played there. Could be the appointment that makes Englan take that next step - although as a Scotsman I hope not 😂

no English manager has ever won the EPL

here is every one who won the old First Division starting with the first of Stan Cullis's multiple titles

[Vesper 30,219]

I highly doubt we will see an English manager of the calibre of Clough or Paisley again for ages and they last were at their peaks 40 to 50 years ago

[milka 3,393]

Elite Tommy Tuchel good that United are so blinded and didn't take him because he would have transformed them and they prefer to be with Seven Haag.

[Fernando 6,585]

I'm happy for him, I think this would help England win finally for once in a long time. 

[bluesman2610 1,417]

He’s a great knockout football manager so this could be very intriguing