Kai Havertz

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Probably just a celebration video, but seems a coincidence to me.  Something to do with 10 yrs at Bayer
 
 

Oi oii.

Looks like I was a day short.



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[Tomo 21,751]

38 minutes ago, Ryan Fong said:

A Leverkusen fan wrote the followings at Redcafe’s Havertz thread: (he replied someone said something like EPL has tighter space than Bundesliga blah blah blah)


“I disagree completely. The EPL used to have higher pace but that was primarily due to most English teams kept playing football that was tactically outdated. Bottom and mid table teams are still doing that while the top teams have finally made their homework and adjusted their playing styles to modern approaches (high pressing, counterpressing, fast transitions, controlled build up instead of rushed box to box action and longballs, etc.). The main reason for that is that foreign top coaches joined the league (Klopp, Guardiola, Sarri, Conte, Hasenhüttl, etc.) while some of the old guard finally left (Wenger).

Still, teams in the Bundesliga press much more ferociously than their English counterparts which means that there's significantly less space for midfielders. Fabregas exemplarily said that when Özil signed for Arsenal. And no, I'm not comparing him with de Bruyne, I explicitly said that he would be the best CAM in the EPL if it wasn't for the Belgian. But that's also because currently, there's not really an abundance of great attacking midfielders in England.

However, I think you underrate him because his playing style is rather subtle than spectacular - his type of player usually gets more love from Spanish/Italian fans than British ones. You need to watch closely to understand why he's so good. His movement, timing and problem solution in tight spaces is outstanding. I don't think there's another midfielder currently in world football who's so pressing resistant and confident in his passing while simultaneously posing such a goal threat. His finishing in the box is downright exceptional. He outperforms his xG by quite a margin which usually only few players with high goal output accomplish. All the while maintaining 85% passing accuracy although he played almost a third of his matches as a striker. De Bruyne exemplarily is at 81% passing accuracy and significantly underperforms in terms of xG, suggesting that Havertz chance conversion is already better than his.”

Oh god, so we're in for the usual "what does he do" nonsense by social media experts whenever he doesn't score or assist.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

36 minutes ago, Ryan Fong said:

A Leverkusen fan wrote the followings at Redcafe’s Havertz thread: (he replied someone said something like EPL has tighter space than Bundesliga blah blah blah)


“I disagree completely. The EPL used to have higher pace but that was primarily due to most English teams kept playing football that was tactically outdated. Bottom and mid table teams are still doing that while the top teams have finally made their homework and adjusted their playing styles to modern approaches (high pressing, counterpressing, fast transitions, controlled build up instead of rushed box to box action and longballs, etc.). The main reason for that is that foreign top coaches joined the league (Klopp, Guardiola, Sarri, Conte, Hasenhüttl, etc.) while some of the old guard finally left (Wenger).

Still, teams in the Bundesliga press much more ferociously than their English counterparts which means that there's significantly less space for midfielders. Fabregas exemplarily said that when Özil signed for Arsenal. And no, I'm not comparing him with de Bruyne, I explicitly said that he would be the best CAM in the EPL if it wasn't for the Belgian. But that's also because currently, there's not really an abundance of great attacking midfielders in England.

However, I think you underrate him because his playing style is rather subtle than spectacular - his type of player usually gets more love from Spanish/Italian fans than British ones. You need to watch closely to understand why he's so good. His movement, timing and problem solution in tight spaces is outstanding. I don't think there's another midfielder currently in world football who's so pressing resistant and confident in his passing while simultaneously posing such a goal threat. His finishing in the box is downright exceptional. He outperforms his xG by quite a margin which usually only few players with high goal output accomplish. All the while maintaining 85% passing accuracy although he played almost a third of his matches as a striker. De Bruyne exemplarily is at 81% passing accuracy and significantly underperforms in terms of xG, suggesting that Havertz chance conversion is already better than his.”

That sounds reassuring. I was wondering how press resistant he is because his height makes him look lanky sometimes. Hopefully if he is used to escaping pressing and counter press teams in the bundesliga, then he will translate  the experience into the EPL. His finishing is so good, and his vision for passing is very good too. But I still don't know how someone with his passing and vision didn't get more than 10 assists in 34-40 games this season.

[Artandur 939]

10 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

That sounds reassuring. I was wondering how press resistant he is because his height makes him look lanky sometimes. Hopefully if he is used to escaping pressing and counter press teams in the bundesliga, then he will translate  the experience into the EPL. His finishing is so good, and his vision for passing is very good too. But I still don't know how someone with his passing and vision didn't get more than 10 assists in 34-40 games this season.

Himself being the only consistent goalscorer in the team for most of the season might have something to do with that last bit. 

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

These guys love Havertz and I know they watch the Bundesliga regularly.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Oh god, so we're in for the usual "what does he do" nonsense by social media experts whenever he doesn't score or assist.

Hey don’t shoot the messenger

[Artandur 939]

Völler reiterated that he will finish the europa league 100%

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, Artandur said:

Völler reiterated that he will finish the europa league 100%

Gotta put a brave face on. 

[Pizy 18,866]

Pretty familiar pattern emerging. Every couple of days we get a news dump suggesting everything is close. Then we get news saying not so fast and it isn't that close.

If he's as keen to come here as many journalists have reported I don't know why he is agreeing to play in the EL. He should be telling Bayer that he wants everything sorted ASAP and leave like Werner did.

[Jase 43,479]

 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

3 hours ago, Ryan Fong said:

A Leverkusen fan wrote the followings at Redcafe’s Havertz thread: (he replied someone said something like EPL has tighter space than Bundesliga blah blah blah)


“I disagree completely. The EPL used to have higher pace but that was primarily due to most English teams kept playing football that was tactically outdated. Bottom and mid table teams are still doing that while the top teams have finally made their homework and adjusted their playing styles to modern approaches (high pressing, counterpressing, fast transitions, controlled build up instead of rushed box to box action and longballs, etc.). The main reason for that is that foreign top coaches joined the league (Klopp, Guardiola, Sarri, Conte, Hasenhüttl, etc.) while some of the old guard finally left (Wenger).

Still, teams in the Bundesliga press much more ferociously than their English counterparts which means that there's significantly less space for midfielders. Fabregas exemplarily said that when Özil signed for Arsenal. And no, I'm not comparing him with de Bruyne, I explicitly said that he would be the best CAM in the EPL if it wasn't for the Belgian. But that's also because currently, there's not really an abundance of great attacking midfielders in England.

However, I think you underrate him because his playing style is rather subtle than spectacular - his type of player usually gets more love from Spanish/Italian fans than British ones. You need to watch closely to understand why he's so good. His movement, timing and problem solution in tight spaces is outstanding. I don't think there's another midfielder currently in world football who's so pressing resistant and confident in his passing while simultaneously posing such a goal threat. His finishing in the box is downright exceptional. He outperforms his xG by quite a margin which usually only few players with high goal output accomplish. All the while maintaining 85% passing accuracy although he played almost a third of his matches as a striker. De Bruyne exemplarily is at 81% passing accuracy and significantly underperforms in terms of xG, suggesting that Havertz chance conversion is already better than his.”

German league has some of the worst defending in top leagues. There is so much space its just funny. Sounds to me whoever wrote this is big fan of Buli and made this quite subjective.

There is never ever a player gonna get this much space in England, Spain or Italy as they get in Buli.

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25 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Ugh, I was hoping this would be done soon.

[NikkiCFC 8,294]

Relax...

It was the same with Werner.

No £54m Chelsea deal in place for Werner, claims RB Leipzig director

“We haven't had an exchange yet,” he told Sky Sports Deutschland on the 24-year-old. “Accordingly, we have nothing to report. Timo Werner is a player for RB Leipzig. He signalled a few weeks ago that he was busy with a transfer. Until now nothing is done.

“We are concentrating on the final sprint in the league. We want to qualify for the Champions League. That is the only thing we are currently discussing with Timo. 

12 days later.

OFFICIAL: Chelsea sign Werner

Chelsea have announced the signing of 24-year-old RB Leipzig forward Timo Werner on a 5-year deal. The club note that he will join the Blues in July and is still to pass a medical.

 

[Dimitr 488]

Same words like Werner transfer saga .