Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted July 23, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted July 23, 2020 Was just thinking this yesterday, having Rice in the starting XI would give us the flexibility of switching from a back 3 to a back 4 and vice versa in matches. He can drop deeper to go with the other 2 CBs and make it a 3 or play slightly further up as a DM screening the back 4. shrenshah, King Kante, Fernando and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Was just thinking this yesterday, having Rice in the starting XI would give us the flexibility of switching from a back 3 to a back 4 and vice versa in matches. He can drop deeper to go with the other 2 CBs and make it a 3 or play slightly further up as a DM screening the back 4. Exactly. And it doesn't have to be instructions shouted from the sideline to all change from a 433 to a 343. It can happen during, when circumstances call for it by players intelligent enough to know how to handle the game. So he'll need to new cbs alongside lol Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Jason said: Was just thinking this yesterday, having Rice in the starting XI would give us the flexibility of switching from a back 3 to a back 4 and vice versa in matches. He can drop deeper to go with the other 2 CBs and make it a 3 or play slightly further up as a DM screening the back 4. Depends. If we start him as DM with two number 8s him moving to CB would leave as with no players able to play double pivot in MF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I'd rather we continue to develop him as a DM. killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 The problem with signing Rice is that it is pretty complicated. For me, with Harvetz coming in, we already need to get shot of Barkley (which should be possible), however when you get to Rice it means Jorgi. However, with Jorgi is he a very specific sort of player and would require a move back to Italy. However, in Italy the funds are not really there except for Juve (who do not really need him) and Inter (he is not a Conte type player.) Then we get to the issue that WHU do not need/want to sell and he had 4 years left. For that reason, I am not sure it will be possible this Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Jason said: Was just thinking this yesterday, having Rice in the starting XI would give us the flexibility of switching from a back 3 to a back 4 and vice versa in matches. He can drop deeper to go with the other 2 CBs and make it a 3 or play slightly further up as a DM screening the back 4. Most possession orientated teams do this anyway when playing 433 or 4231 anyway. The deepest midfielder sits infront and the fullbacks push on. They drop in if they lose possession. I tend to remember Mikel doing it here. And Romeu. When Ramires played in MF with Mikel in a 4231 and we had possession he would push further up and it would be more of a 4123/433 whatever. Or 343 when we were really pushing the fullbacks up. All of Pep’s team have done this since Barcelona. kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 1:25 PM, Vesper said: Tonali only wants to go to one club, Inter, and I will be shocked if ends up costing half of Rice, I expect Brescia to extract a lot of cash for Sandro. They are saying €50m at a bare minimum. https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/calciomercato/2020/07/18-71889002/inter_avanti_per_tonali_ed_emerson/ https://www.football-italia.net/156603/report-inter-and-brescia-agree-tonali Report: Inter and Brescia agree on Tonali Corriere di Brescia claims the two clubs have agreed on an expensive loan deal with an obligation to buy the player for a total amount of €35m in 2021. Are you shocked? Rice will be at least 65m pounds so half the price. This English players tax has to stop and come back to reality. Atomiswave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,215 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: https://www.football-italia.net/156603/report-inter-and-brescia-agree-tonali Report: Inter and Brescia agree on Tonali Corriere di Brescia claims the two clubs have agreed on an expensive loan deal with an obligation to buy the player for a total amount of €35m in 2021. Are you shocked? Rice will be at least 65m pounds so half the price. This English players tax has to stop and come back to reality. What is the loan cost? That has to be figured in. Your article says it is an expensive loan. You cannot just take the obligated buy fee from next year and claim that as the total price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Vesper said: What is the loan cost? That has to be figured in. Your article says it is an expensive loan. You cannot just take the obligated buy fee from next year and claim that as the total price. 5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Only way we get Rice for anything that resembles a reasonable fee is if he has picked up the Payet/Arnautovic play book and is prepared to go through with the antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Rice isn't worth for the money West Ham want. Zakaria is cheaper than Rice and available for €50m. killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,215 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: 5m. actually I am shocked as the loan fee is €10m and the buy fee next year is only €25m €35m is the total cost, £32m https://sempreinter.com/2020/07/31/inter-closing-in-on-signing-of-brescias-sandro-tonali-player-will-be-in-milan-on-monday/ that whole thing stinks so often there are hyper dodgy low-ball priced deal between Italian teams for Italian players it is literally the opposite of the EPL, where English teams RAPE each other over English players it makes zero sense for Brescia to sell their best young academy-developed player of the past multiple decades for such a low price other than they got relegated so I have to assume that played a large part but it still faces up as highly suspicious especially as Cellino was saying this last fall.... Man City, PSG and Atleti interested in Tonali, says Brescia owner Cellino https://www.fotmob.com/news/1tizhtgrf0fwo1x0x7kgyvjk4d-man-city,-psg-and-atleti-interested-in-tonali,-says-brescia-owner-cellino Brescia owner Massimo Cellino says it would take an offer of €300million for the club to part with prized asset Sandro Tonali. Manchester City, Paris Saint-Germain and Atletico Madrid are among a host of major clubs interested in signing Brescia midfielder Sandro Tonali, according to the club's owner and president Massimo Cellino. Tonali, 19, is one of Italy's brightest prospects, having broken into Brescia's first-team picture at the age of 17. A technically gifted deep-lying playmaker who is often likened to Azzurri great Andrea Pirlo, Tonali made his first appearance for Italy in the Euro 2020 qualifying win over Liechtenstein on October 15. He played 34 league games last season as Brescia were crowned Serie B champions and earned promotion back to the top flight, with many expecting the midfielder to be snapped up by a bigger club. Brescia have managed to hold onto him, though, with Cellino suggesting it would take an eye-watering €300million for the club to part with him. Asked by La Gazzetta dello Sport who was interested in Tonali, Cellino said: "All the big Italian clubs. Abroad there's Atletico Madrid, Paris Saint-Germain and Manchester City, but in my view, he'd be better off remaining a key player with Brescia. "His agent and his parents were telling me about this €50million evaluation. I replied that for me he is worth €300million, which means I don't want to sell. "I have a dream. If Sandro accepts, I am ready to make a big financial sacrifice to extend his contract. It's up to him to decide. He can stay here and enjoy his football or go to a big club and risk being left on the bench." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liuxas 125 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I have a feeling that mafia and corruption still involved in Italian football. There no sense to sell Tonali for such low price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Liuxas said: I have a feeling that mafia and corruption still involved in Italian football. There no sense to sell Tonali for such low price. Tbh I think Italian prices are more realistic than English. Tonali 35m, Barella 37m... This should be the price for Chilwell and Rice in normal world. Atomiswave, kc_blue and killer1257 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Tbh I think Italian prices are more realistic than English. Tonali 35m, Barella 37m... This should be the price for Chilwell and Rice in normal world.The good thing is that we also have some English players and I am pretty sure Mount is worth 70 million Euros too [emoji23]Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 We wont get DR, Westham will rinse us big time if we go for him and it only hurts that he is Eng, that Eng tax is mighty strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: We wont get DR, Westham will rinse us big time if we go for him and it only hurts that he is Eng, that Eng tax is mighty strong. Yeah, it is a shame he did not stay with Ireland. If he had, we could've got him for about £35m and paid him in potatoes. Vesper, BlueLyon and Atomiswave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,215 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Atomiswave said: We wont get DR, Westham will rinse us big time if we go for him and it only hurts that he is Eng, that Eng tax is mighty strong. I so wish those pikey fuckers had went down, which they would have if we had beaten them twice Atomiswave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: I so wish those pikey fuckers had went down, which they would have if we had beaten them twice Oh mate dont remind us....they also somewhat helped us win the title when they beat spuds in 16-17 but still to gift them 6pts is not ideal. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,215 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Oh mate dont remind us....they also somewhat helped us win the title when they beat spuds in 16-17 but still to gift them 6pts is not ideal. Rice kicked our arse in both those games too take him off their squad we would have won Atomiswave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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