Mikel John Obi

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Mikel is like the final guest at a party doesn't matter how many hints you give them they just won't leave. When he retires he will probably get a job when the refurbishment of the Bridge starts as a water carrier. 

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  On 10/08/2016 at 08:45, Iggy Doonican said:

Mikel is like the final guest at a party doesn't matter how many hints you give them they just won't leave. When he retires he will probably get a job when the refurbishment of the Bridge starts as a water carrier. 

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Nah. He'll be the old chap sweeping thru the stands then putting up the chains in the parking lot. (On the same wages hes on now tho)

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Now I don't want to keep him but you've gotta be fuckin joking!

Turkish giants offer £2.58m for Chelsea veteran who has played 378 games for club

http://www.turkish-football.com/turkish-giants-besiktas-offer-2-58m-for-chelsea-veteran-mikel-who-has-played-378-games-for-club/

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  On 11/08/2016 at 17:40, Unionjack said:

Now I don't want to keep him but you've gotta be fuckin joking!

Turkish giants offer £2.58m for Chelsea veteran who has played 378 games for club

http://www.turkish-football.com/turkish-giants-besiktas-offer-2-58m-for-chelsea-veteran-mikel-who-has-played-378-games-for-club/

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So you would demand more?

Mikel only has a year left on his contract at the club and not to mention he's on big wages, which I'm pretty sure is a stumbling block for most clubs interested in his services so the transfer fee will need to be pretty small for anyone to pull the trigger on it.

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  On 11/08/2016 at 19:30, Jype said:

So you would demand more?

Mikel only has a year left on his contract at the club and not to mention he's on big wages, which I'm pretty sure is a stumbling block for most clubs interested in his services so the transfer fee will need to be pretty small for anyone to pull the trigger on it.

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Thats 2 good points.

So we either take a ridiculously low bid.

 Tell Mikel hes not going to get time and advise him to take a wage cut,

Let his contract run out and get a freebie and let him train with the youth.

Or we renew his contrtract for 4 years and we guarantee him a starting place,

hmmmm!

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  On 11/08/2016 at 19:30, Jype said:

So you would demand more?

Mikel only has a year left on his contract at the club and not to mention he's on big wages, which I'm pretty sure is a stumbling block for most clubs interested in his services so the transfer fee will need to be pretty small for anyone to pull the trigger on it.

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Ashley Williams cost 11m£ and he's 32.

Big wages ? He signed his contract in 2012, during those 4 years wages went up massively.

If this offer is real they're having a laugh. Mikel is 29, not 35.

Any Premier League team would pay 12-15m£.

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  On 11/08/2016 at 20:31, Blue Colored Sky said:

Ashley Williams cost 11m£ and he's 32.

Big wages ? He signed his contract in 2012, during those 4 years wages went up massively.

If this offer is real they're having a laugh. Mikel is 29, not 35.

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Ashley Williams, who just turned 31 and not 32 by the way, cost £11M cause he was a club captain at Swansea and they didn't want to sell him to begin with, let alone sell to a team within the same league. You can't compare that to a situation where we have Mikel, a player Conte probably doesn't want to keep and who we struggle to find potential suitors for. Also like I said, only one year left on the contract which ALWAYS affects the transfer fee.

Mikel is on big wages as far as a club in Turkey are concerned. Maybe not big wages for a PL club, all of whom have money coming in by the truck load after new TV deals and all that, but still too high for most clubs in the world. If I'm not mistaken Mikel is on around £90K a week and that's a figure not many clubs can afford.

If Conte doesn't see use for Mikel, it's better to take the offer that's available and move on rather than keep the player just for the sake of it and then lose him on a free next year. It actually makes a big impact whether the club get a £2.6M fee now and save £4.6M on the wages or just hold onto him and keep paying the £4.6M salary while getting very little in return if he's not playing. In fact the difference is over £11M, enough to pay the yearly expenses for a pretty good player.

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  On 11/08/2016 at 20:48, Jype said:

Ashley Williams, who just turned 31 and not 32 by the way, cost £11M cause he was a club captain at Swansea and they didn't want to sell him to begin with, let alone sell to a team within the same league. You can't compare that to a situation where we have Mikel, a player Conte probably doesn't want to keep and who we struggle to find potential suitors for. Also like I said, only one year left on the contract which ALWAYS affects the transfer fee.

Mikel is on big wages as far as a club in Turkey are concerned. Maybe not big wages for a PL club, all of whom have money coming in by the truck load after new TV deals and all that, but still too high for most clubs in the world. If I'm not mistaken Mikel is on around £90K a week and that's a figure not many clubs can afford.

If Conte doesn't see use for Mikel, it's better to take the offer that's available and move on rather than keep the player just for the sake of it and then lose him on a free next year. It actually makes a big impact whether the club get a £2.6M fee now and save £4.6M on the wages or just hold onto him and keep paying the £4.6M salary while getting very little in return if he's not playing. In fact the difference is over £11M, enough to pay the yearly expenses for a pretty good player.

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I understand what you're saying but Mikel isn't player like Torres that Chelsea are desperate to get rid of. He'd still improve half of this league midfield line and he's still just 29. Therefore I can't understand low bid. We can sell him to decent team for good money.

Remy is 29 and on even bigger wages than Mikel, do we accept 3m€ for him as well ?

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  On 11/08/2016 at 21:59, Blue Colored Sky said:

I understand what you're saying but Mikel isn't player like Torres that Chelsea are desperate to get rid of. He'd still improve half of this league midfield line and he's still just 29. Therefore I can't understand low bid. We can sell him to decent team for good money.

Remy is 29 and on even bigger wages than Mikel, do we accept 3m€ for him as well ?

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I agree, Mikel is a useful player to have and he'd improve many PL teams but by the looks of things many PL teams are not interested in his services. Only links we've seen of Mikel going out in the last few years have been to the biggest Turkish clubs and they don't have the same kind of money even average PL teams do, never have and never will. If Conte sees use for Mikel even as a squad player the club should be asking for way more than £2.6M but like I said if it comes down to selling for a small fee and getting his wages off the books or having him rot in the stands while not even playing, it's a no-brainer.

We have Cesc, Oscar, Kante, Matic, RLC and Chalobah and Mikel to play in midfield and personally I'd like for the two youngsters to be given chances to shine instead of Mikel so I wouldn't mind the sale, even if it meant selling for cheap. If he does go I'll just say Mikel's been a great servant for the club, signed over ten years ago and played almost 400 games without ever throwing a tantrum if some new manager didn't fancy him or anything.

Mikel is still at the Olympics so I'd assume the ball will get rolling sometime next week if there's something going on. Should there be some truth in those rumours we'll be hearing about it soon because if I'm not mistaken Turkish clubs need to make an announcement to the league if they even enter negotiations for a player.

Also Remy is a striker, strikers go for bigger money than defensive midfielders. And even in Remy's case I don't think we could get more than around £7M for him.

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  On 03/08/2016 at 18:21, Parky said:

I have a feeling Mikel is going to retire here. Poor guy was a highly promising attacking minded midfielder who got converted into ultra boring ball holding midfielder by Jose. 

 

 

 

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Mikel played further forward in half his games under Jose, only dropping back when Maka didn't play.

It was under Scolari he started playing DM full time.

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  On 12/08/2016 at 00:44, Tomo said:

Mikel played further forward in half his games under Jose, only dropping back when Maka didn't play.

It was under Scolari he started playing DM full time.

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Tomo, our resident mythbuster.

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No idea where this myth about Mikel being on big wages comes from or why it won't go away. He is LITERALLY on the lowest wages in the first team apart from Chalobah. 

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  On 12/08/2016 at 06:51, CHOULO19 said:

No idea where this myth about Mikel being on big wages comes from or why it won't go away. He is LITERALLY on the lowest wages in the first team apart from Chalobah. 

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Like I said not big wages for a club like Chelsea but £80-90K a week is still a lot of money for a club like Galatasaray. They can afford him, sure, but they will probably look elsewhere if they must also pay a hefty transfer fee on top of the wages that are already stretching their budget.

Just did some checking and looks like Robin Van Persie at Fenerbahce is hands down the highest paid player currently in Turkey with €4.9M a year, which is still less than Mikel's current wages. And that's RvP we're talking about, one the most well known strikers in world football. At Galatasaray, the club supposedly interested in Mikel, highest earner looks to be the keeper Fernando Muslera at €3.3m a year + bonuses. Drogba was on RvP kind of money when he played at Gala, so the money is most likely there if they think it's necessary but if you were on the board at Galatasaray would you hand out the highest wages at the club to a player like Mikel? Probably not, since usually the highest paid player needs to be some media sexy game changing attacking player and not a defensive midfielder. 

Of course it's worth noting that in Turkey they pay less taxes than in England so net wage is better there if on the same gross pay.

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  On 12/08/2016 at 07:49, Jype said:

Like I said not big wages for a club like Chelsea but £80-90K a week is still a lot of money for a club like Galatasaray. They can afford him, sure, but they will probably look elsewhere if they must also pay a hefty transfer fee on top of the wages that are already stretching their budget.

Just did some checking and looks like Robin Van Persie at Fenerbahce is hands down the highest paid player currently in Turkey with €4.9M a year, which is still less than Mikel's current wages. And that's RvP we're talking about, one the most well known strikers in world football. At Galatasaray, the club supposedly interested in Mikel, highest earner looks to be the keeper Fernando Muslera at €3.3m a year + bonuses. Drogba was on RvP kind of money when he played at Gala, so the money is most likely there if they think it's necessary but if you were on the board at Galatasaray would you hand out the highest wages at the club to a player like Mikel? Probably not, since usually the highest paid player needs to be some media sexy game changing attacking player and not a defensive midfielder. 

Of course it's worth noting that in Turkey they pay less taxes than in England so net wage is better there if on the same gross pay.

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Yeah, this wasn't aimed at you but A LOT of people keep saying that.

Mikel is actually on less than that. He costs 3.9m per year on the FFP budget according to WAGNH. Assuming the amortized fees are now almost zero since he's been here 11 years, that would mean that he's on 75K/wk.

When you factor in the taxes then he'd probably be earning less than Muslera if he is to move to Turkey.

But this argument about his supposed high wages was mentioned even when he was being linked with a move to the Serie A and people even have said in the past that we need to get rid of Mikel because we need to get rid of his wages.

It's prime time that this myth, much like the myth of Jose Mourinho turning Mikel into a defensive midfielder, is put to bed. 

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EXCLUSIVE: Chelsea star Mikel John Obi’s Dream Team

https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/exclusive-chelsea-star-mikel-john-obis-dream-team/

 

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  On 12/08/2016 at 09:16, Chelsea4 said:

 

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HAHAHA Give this man a statue already!  

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  On 12/08/2016 at 06:51, CHOULO19 said:

No idea where this myth about Mikel being on big wages comes from or why it won't go away. He is LITERALLY on the lowest wages in the first team apart from Chalobah. 

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Last figures I saw from 201-16 says hes on £75k a week which is more than Dave/Bane/ppppMatic (till Conte offers him new contract coming up most likely) 

Happys only on £40k and Remys om £85 plus Pedros on £100k!

But we are pricing RLC out of a move with his new £60k rise. Nobodys going to want to loan him unless we pay most of his wages.