Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Why is no Italian team coming for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Wasnt he Al ain bound few weeks ago already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Is he still here? Please call the necessary office for this!!!! xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 i would have mikel over some 10-15mil DM like song. inspite of the shit given to him, he is quite useful, specially in closing out a game. he might not be a good passer, the most adventorous spirit, yada yada yada, but he definitely knows how to close the game down. so unless we are getting a MASSIVE UPGRADE on him like vidal/bastian, i dont want him to leave for someone like song. no thank you. CeleryFC and nachikethas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 i would have mikel over some 10-15mil DM like song. inspite of the shit given to him, he is quite useful, specially in closing out a game. he might not be a good passer, the most adventorous spirit, yada yada yada, but he definitely knows how to close the game down. so unless we are getting a MASSIVE UPGRADE on him like vidal/bastian, i dont want him to leave for someone like song. no thank you.why can't we just use Zouma to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 why can't we just use Zouma to do that?Because Zouma is a CB and naturally doesn't have the technical abilities nor the positional awareness to play in midfield. He can come on with 10 minutes to go to win headers in midfield and around the box, but he can't play as a midfielder. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 why can't we just use Zouma to do that?exactly what choulo said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 ...but he's fine to close a game down.And Zouma will improve if he plays there more. I'd like Schweinsteiger so he can play alongside Matic and Cesc can go up or rotate with him - I'm sorry but the fact that Mikel is being linked to Al Ain explains his quality, or lack thereof. Even young Zouma can pass sideways and sit in front of his CBs.If we wanted a proper back up to Matic then I'd be thinking about somebody like Song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 ...but he's fine to close a game down.And Zouma will improve if he plays there more. I'd like Schweinsteiger so he can play alongside Matic and Cesc can go up or rotate with him - I'm sorry but the fact that Mikel is being linked to Al Ain explains his quality, or lack thereof. Even young Zouma can pass sideways and sit in front of his CBs.If we wanted a proper back up to Matic then I'd be thinking about somebody like Song.what is this obsession with song, i will never get it!!! the guy has been shit for the last 2-3 years. just watch how poor he was for barca. he continously loses his defensive focus.mikel is still here. he got 1400 minutes last season. zouma can "do the job" for the last 5 minutes, but mikel would be a good 15-20 minute sub -cameo appearance where we can control the game as per our liking. i dont expect that off zouma and infact, no one should. he is a 20 year old CB and should be played as one. moreover, we have like 6 senior defenders, zouma will and should get plenty of oppurtunities to play as a CB.i did say, unless there was a massive upgrade and included the 2 names who would be those massive upgrades (vidal and bastian), then it would make sense to sell mikel. buying someone like song, i am sorry, but it makes no sense to me. i would be much happier having mvg be that backup to matic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 what is this obsession with song, i will never get it!!! the guy has been shit for the last 2-3 years. just watch how poor he was for barca. he continously loses his defensive focus.mikel is still here. he got 1400 minutes last season. zouma can "do the job" for the last 5 minutes, but mikel would be a good 15-20 minute sub -cameo appearance where we can control the game as per our liking. i dont expect that off zouma and infact, no one should. he is a 20 year old CB and should be played as one. moreover, we have like 6 senior defenders, zouma will and should get plenty of oppurtunities to play as a CB.i did say, unless there was a massive upgrade and included the 2 names who would be those massive upgrades (vidal and bastian), then it would make sense to sell mikel. buying someone like song, i am sorry, but it makes no sense to me. i would be much happier having mvg be that backup to matic.MvG is a b2b though, isn't he?Actually maybe keep Mikel for one more season. See how Pasalic gets on at Monaco in his DM role (unless they find space for him to play b2b) and look again next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 MvG is a b2b though, isn't he?Actually maybe keep Mikel for one more season. See how Pasalic gets on at Monaco in his DM role (unless they find space for him to play b2b) and look again next summer.jose used mvg as a DM in 13-14 pre-season as well as the couple of matches he played. also, even bastian/vidal are not really DMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 To fener... TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Be true for once TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 i would have mikel over some 10-15mil DM like song. inspite of the shit given to him, he is quite useful, specially in closing out a game. he might not be a good passer, the most adventorous spirit, yada yada yada, but he definitely knows how to close the game down. so unless we are getting a MASSIVE UPGRADE on him like vidal/bastian, i dont want him to leave for someone like song. no thank you.Every game I remember when mikel came, we lost the lead and drew or lost... TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Every game I remember when mikel came, we lost the lead and drew or lost... This is so wrong though. stroey and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,904 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Mikel is like an old sofa you can't get rid of.Linked with a move every single window but never goes. TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilander 35 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Mikel is like an old sofa you can't get rid of.Linked with a move every single window but never goes.If Obi Mikel is still in the squad of the next-season Chelsea first team, it means that Chelsea has NO ambition on Champions League.If Chelsea targets at defending Premiership title, Obi Mikel is just enough. To completing for Champions League, Obi Mikel is completely helpless to bench depth of Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scargo 75 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Please get away plz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Every game I remember when mikel came, we lost the lead and drew or lost... thats weirdsporting - 15min cameo - 0-1 wineverton - 10min cameo - 3-6 win (it was 3-5 when he came on)burnley - 10min cameo - 1-3 (1-3 when he came on)city - 27min - 1-1 (0-0 when he came on)villa - 13min - 3-0arsenal - 21 min - 2-0manu - 23min - 1-1 (1-0 when he came on)spurs - 14min - 3-0whu - 10min - 2-0villa - 17min - 1-2 win (1-2 when he came on)palace - 45min - 1-0all in all, there were 2 matches where we conceded after mikel was brought on.city match, a mistake by schurrle, united match iva got a red and a goal from set piece.infact we dint lose a single match and drew just once (since the score was 0-0 in the city match when he got subbed in)so........ stroey, nachikethas and CHOULO19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 thats weirdsporting - 15min cameo - 0-1 wineverton - 10min cameo - 3-6 win (it was 3-5 when he came on)burnley - 10min cameo - 1-3 (1-3 when he came on)city - 27min - 1-1 (0-0 when he came on)villa - 13min - 3-0arsenal - 21 min - 2-0manu - 23min - 1-1 (1-0 when he came on)spurs - 14min - 3-0whu - 10min - 2-0villa - 17min - 1-2 win (1-2 when he came on)palace - 45min - 1-0all in all, there were 2 matches where we conceded after mikel was brought on.city match, a mistake by schurrle, united match iva got a red and a goal from set piece.infact we dint lose a single match and drew just once (since the score was 0-0 in the city match when he got subbed in)so........Essentially, when mikel is introduced all attacking instincts go out the door and we park the bus hoping and praying that Thibo going to save us........And yea the city and united games were the top of my head, but a few times, he was introduced and if it chaos...So, unless your betting on Thibo to save us everytime, Mikel is not and should not be an option. He can do one thing well, play as dm/cb when the bus in park and even than, I don't think he plays that well. Jose already had a better dm on the first team and he loaned him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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