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Mikel was man of the match vs everton? You mean when he chickened out from putting in a tackle on osman and they punished us with a goal? Wierd people over here.

It wasn't that strange lol, even WhoScored had him down as our second highest rated player in that game, so people calling him the MOTM for us in that game isn't really that unfathomed.
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Mikel was man of the match vs everton? You mean when he chickened out from putting in a tackle on osman and they punished us with a goal? Wierd people over here.

Gotta like how you just come in here, post 1-2 comments criticizing Mikel or other members' views and have no intention to debate/discuss points with people...

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It wasn't that strange lol, even WhoScored had him down as our second highest rated player in that game, so people calling him the MOTM for us in that game isn't really that unfathomed.

He had a good game against Everton, but even when he has a good game he isn't influential enough. Matic on the other hand...

The most interesting for me is that Mikel is considered to be a good passer of the ball - not by me.

Unless you are specifically talking about short passing, passing includes many different abilities, some of which Mikel severely lacks. Take his shooting for example, worst of all our midfielders (including Luiz). Technique wise, shooting from distance isn't much different from long passing - he can't do neither. Now we go into short flicks, quick lobs, like the one Luiz made for Azpi (against United or Pool?). Quick flicks are also difficult for him because he lacks mobility, so his passing is done from a very static position - normally sideways.

Honestly I've never seen him give an assist or a nice quick pass to set up a quick counter or movement.

The same argument, that I use for Luiz, market valuation, does not quite work for Mikel. As pointed out by others, only medium and smaller sides show any interest in him.

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He had a good game against Everton, but even when he has a good game he isn't influential enough. Matic on the other hand...

The most interesting for me is that Mikel is considered to be a good passer of the ball - not by me.

Unless you are specifically talking about short passing, passing includes many different abilities, some of which Mikel severely lacks. Take his shooting for example, worst of all our midfielders (including Luiz). Technique wise, shooting from distance isn't much different from long passing - he can't do neither. Now we go into short flicks, quick lobs, like the one Luiz made for Azpi (against United or Pool?). Quick flicks are also difficult for him because he lacks mobility, so his passing is done from a very static position - normally sideways.

Honestly I've never seen him give an assist or a nice quick pass to set up a quick counter or movement.

The same argument, that I use for Luiz, market valuation, does not quite work for Mikel. As pointed out by others, only medium and smaller sides show any interest in him.

He used to have it in him (in regards to that long ball that requires a decent amount of vision) but it's been beaten out of him basically.

I remember he used to do them under Ancelotti, who encouraged Mikel to provide those quick forward passes but as I said above he's completely cut it out of his game. I think Ancelotti once said that he's trying to turn Mikel into a Pirlo type player and he certainly had the ability to back then but we just don't see it in his game anymore.

Here's a decent video of Mikel in Ancelotti's second season, the long passes are highlighted at around 0:45:

http://youtu.be/6T-7T2rza3k

He was more positive and creative with his passing but all of that has pretty much been beaten out of him, he's just told to keep it very simple because his main strength is holding onto the ball and recycling possession, which could work very well in a possession based team.

Ironically, for Nigeria he's a completely different player who does do the flicks, the long passes, even finds himself in the box more often. It's weird how he can't translate a fragment of that into his play at CFC because he can be much more dynamic.

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He used to have it in him (in regards to that long ball that requires a decent amount of vision) but it's been beaten out of him basically.

I remember he used to do them under Ancelotti, who encouraged Mikel to provide those quick forward passes but as I said above he's completely cut it out of his game. I think Ancelotti once said that he's trying to turn Mikel into a Pirlo type player and he certainly had the ability to back then but we just don't see it in his game anymore.

Here's a decent video of Mikel in Ancelotti's second season, the long passes are highlighted at around 0:45:

http://youtu.be/6T-7T2rza3k

He was more positive and creative with his passing but all of that has pretty much been beaten out of him, he's just told to keep it very simple because his main strength is holding onto the ball and recycling possession, which could work very well in a possession based team.

Ironically, for Nigeria he's a completely different player who does do the flicks, the long passes, even finds himself in the box more often. It's weird how he can't translate a fragment of that into his play at CFC because he can be much more dynamic.

Good post, but I don't buy the "beaten out of him" bit though. And although he is better for Nigeria, I'd not say he's great for Nigeria. Actually, I've heard some (Brazilian) analysts saying during the Conf cup that Mikel was essentially the only good player Nigeria had.

Nobody is telling him to not present himself at all times. Even if he's been told not to make forward runs, which I find difficult to believe. He could be far more mobile in the area of the pitch where he roams.

It's all on him for me..

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£12 million? Nice bit of business. Not sure he'd be missed but he's been part of this club's history and put in some good performances. Italy should suit him nicely although I honestly thought he'd end up going to Turkey, or maybe even Russia.

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£12 million? Nice bit of business. Not sure he'd be missed but he's been part of this club's history and put in some good performances. Italy should suit him nicely although I honestly thought he'd end up going to Turkey, or maybe even Russia.

To be honest, mikel IS a good DM. He would definitwly improve the likes of inter or ac. Plus he is still only 26. Turkey n russia is now literally lije retiremwnt homes and nikel deaerves better than those.
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I'd much rather not have Mikel and Lamps leaving in summer cos we might have to sign another DM. On the other hand this would offer MvG, Romeu and maybe even Chalobah a chance to slot in...

Anyway, he heard he is a doubt for tomorrow, will he be fit to play?

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Italy will suit him perfectly. No speed to contend with except against roma/napoli. The game is slow possession based football there and is perfect for him.

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Anyway, he heard he is a doubt for tomorrow, will he be fit to play?

Everyone was asking about the Canal+ video, no one actually asked Jose about the team news! I guess we'll find out tomorrow about him, Luiz and Oscar.

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