Kojo 4,676 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Hang on a sec, this goes to Alex and the others saying hes underappreciated and all this, how the hell is he?, everyone on this forum overrates Mikel and some say he's the best DM in the league. And i can only think of me henrique, Mak and Redish Blue, and perhaps a few others who have posted then and now who actually think Mikel isn't good enough, but still that only comes down to about 6 or 7 against the rest of the forum.So please tell me how the fuck is he underappreciated when there's only a few of us who think he's not good enough. Shaan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I don't think it's clueless at all. The main criticism I have of Mikel is his attitude. In the position he is in, he can't let his head drop or disappear in big moments. He can't get lazy and lethargic on the ball and he can't be sloppy. Whilst he's good most of the time (and he deserves credit for this) I think he can revert to type in key moments.Fellaini on the other hand is a guy who has stepped up for Everton this season and looked for the ball in high pressure situations. He's tidy on the ball and moves it on quickly, he's fantastic in the air (like Mikel) and has a tremendous physical presence.But it's the aggression that he has that I really like. Look at Mikel against Juventus - that to me is his defining moment. He gives the ball away sloppily when we're in transition (which I'm sure you will understand the severity of considering your obvious tactical nous). Then he has two choices. One is to pressure the person on the ball to win it back and the other is to move back into his position now that we are defending and pick up Vucinic.Mikel does neither.Instead he stands still for about 5 seconds (might be a little either side because I can't quite remember).Luiz picks up his marking job creating a space in the defence for Quagliarella to run into, Terry makes a second mistake by jumping out of defence and Juve score the equaliser.Now it might be unfair in some people's eyes for me to blame our CL exit on that one mistake but top level sport is so tight nowadays that trophies are won and lost on individual plays. You can't fall asleep for one second because you will be punished, and that's what happened here.I'm glad he got a new contract because I think he can do a job for us against some of the weaker teams, and maybe in a different role that requires less responsibility. But right now he's playing in arguably the most demanding, important position on the pitch and I simply do not think he has the mentality to play it.And here's an interesting point someone else raised - what other top team could you imagine him playing at, week in and week out?Great post, and then the reply you are most certain to get is a stat about Mikels passing or tackling percentage or some stupid shit like that. Your last point you put down summed it up perfectly, no other fans rate Mikel as Chelsea fans do, it doesn't happen, infact everyone else thinks he's shit. Yeah we shouldn't listen to what they think but when it comes down to it that applies to no other players, even Michael Carrick a lot of people see how vital he can be for United besides United fans.Although Mikel, he wouldn't get into Uniteds team, Arsenals, Citys, Tottenhams, and fuck he wouldn't even get into Liverpools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 3-match ban, £60,000 fine for Mikel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 3-match ban, £60,000 fine for Mikel.FUCK THE FA! Fuck this absolute joke of an association! This is beyond ridiculous. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petr.breu 1,618 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 FA are really bunch of twats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONI. 1,291 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 FUCK FA :rant: :rant: Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Fair enough. You can't threaten referees and the mitigating circumstances probably brought it down from about 15 matches, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Mikel will miss games against Sunderland [PL], Leeds United [Capital One Cup] and Aston Villa [PL] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Romeu looked good last night, albeit against a shit side, so I'm not worried at all really about the suspension with the sides we have coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Mikel will miss games against Sunderland [PL], Leeds United [Capital One Cup] and Aston Villa [PL]should be well rested for ACON Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 With Terry nearing fitness it might give us another game or two seeing Luiz in midfield.I think at the moment he's the closest thing to a deep playmaker we have, he covers ground well and presses teams. He actually looked pretty disciplined aswell compared to how he can be at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) Hardly a surprise to see Mikel being punished by the FA. FA = Fergie Association.Mikel will miss games against Sunderland [PL], Leeds United [Capital One Cup] and Aston Villa [PL]We should be able to cope without him in those games. Edited December 6, 2012 by BluesMaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Hardly a surprise to Mikel being punished by the FA. FA = Fergie Association.Seriously?Also, apparently....John Obi Mikel: Since Aug 2009, Chelsea have gained an average of 1.87 points per PL game with Mikel starting, compared to 1.98 without him :blue scalf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 3-match ban, £60,000 fine for Mikel.Fuck! Can he appeal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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