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doubt if he will be with us next season

Mikel is not helpful to substitute either Matic or Fabragas, but waste our one home-grown seat.

If the new home-grown rule is gradually implemented on Premiership, Mikel must be the first one to discarded by the club.

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He will be sold this summer I think. I'm not gonna missed him badly, but he has done his job for us all this years, so credit to him and good luck. You will not find another player who is more 'calm and patient' being benched weeks in weeks out than him.

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time to discuss his replacement. he will be sold for around 5mil pounds so dont think his replacement should cost more than 10mil (i am discussing this considering we sell oscar, shift cesc to the no.10 position and buy pogba/koke for the pivot. so essentially the player to replace mikel will again be the no.4 CM/DM after matic, pogba/koke and rambo).

we have romeu and mvg in our loanees.

chalobah is a distant possibility.

RLC and ake is even further off in possibilities including probably baker.

imbula and kondogbia would be good buys. imbula has impressed me whenever i have seen him play

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time to discuss his replacement. he will be sold for around 5mil pounds so dont think his replacement should cost more than 10mil (i am discussing this considering we sell oscar, shift cesc to the no.10 position and buy pogba/koke for the pivot. so essentially the player to replace mikel will again be the no.4 CM/DM after matic, pogba/koke and rambo).

we have romeu and mvg in our loanees.

chalobah is a distant possibility.

RLC and ake is even further off in possibilities including probably baker.

imbula and kondogbia would be good buys. imbula has impressed me whenever i have seen him play

Mou said RLC will stay, whether he replaces Ramires or Mikel is another question...

I'd like to see Ake replace Mikel though. It seems that Chalo is more of a playmaker-ey player rather than a holder like Mikel is, from what I've seen of him play at Reading (not much; I might be wrong) while Ake is supposed to hold. Plus he's a utility player, he can play anywhere in the first 6 outfield positions.

Btw assuming we'd use 4-3-3 next season, that's 3 CDM/CM places available, and including Cesc deep that means we're talking about 4 and 5th choice.

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He will be sold this summer I think. I'm not gonna missed him badly, but he has done his job for us all this years, so credit to him and good luck. You will not find another player who is more 'calm and patient' being benched weeks in weeks out than him.

Mikel is a very smart man. If he leaves Chelsea, and that's a big if, he will not end up at a top side. And he'll never make as much money. We've seen how players like Bosingwa, Kalou, Malouda etc. ended up when they left.

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I think Ake is a good option to replace Mikel. C'mon, lets give him a chance. He has some experience and whenever he played he was doing well and showed signs of good potential. Mikel was 19 y/o when he strated playing for Chelsea, Ake is 20 right now. Mikel played a small role this year and really, I think it isnt too much to ask for Ake to take his place.

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Mou said RLC will stay, whether he replaces Ramires or Mikel is another question...

I'd like to see Ake replace Mikel though. It seems that Chalo is more of a playmaker-ey player rather than a holder like Mikel is, from what I've seen of him play at Reading (not much; I might be wrong) while Ake is supposed to hold. Plus he's a utility player, he can play anywhere in the first 6 outfield positions.

Btw assuming we'd use 4-3-3 next season, that's 3 CDM/CM places available, and including Cesc deep that means we're talking about 4 and 5th choice.

I am not, and have never been, a Mikel believer but, I think we need to be cautious about allowing him to leave. As restated by a number of people in this thread, he has proved able to accept a squad role without rocking the boat. Every squad needs that. There is a balance to be struck between upgrading the talent pool and keeping the group happy. That was why Lukaku and De Bruyne had to leave and it's an important consideration.

Meanwhile, I think that Ake would have had more game time over the last two seasons if Jose had confidence in him so, unless Nathan is prepared to do a Mikel and accept a squad role, his days might be numbered. Shame because I like him, but that's how it looks to me.

I also don't see enough quality in Chalobah or Baker to give either of them a big chance here. RLC however is different, I've no doubt that he has the talent to make it. The question for him is whether he has the x-factor which will allow him to make the most of his ability. The jury is out on that. I desperately want him to come up with the right answer because I haven't been so hopeful about a Chelsea junior since Clive Walker and that was nearly 40 years ago!

(For what it's worth, and more than a little off topic, the excitement about Walker came from write ups in the programme and lasted only till I actually saw him play for the first time in a Youth Cup game at The Bridge. Clive went on to have a good career of course but, in my opinion, Ruben has far more ability and will be a star if he maximises his potential. Can't honestly say I'm confident that Ruben will do that but I'm keeping everything crossed.)

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Mikel is a very smart man. If he leaves Chelsea, and that's a big if, he will not end up at a top side. And he'll never make as much money. We've seen how players like Bosingwa, Kalou, Malouda etc. ended up when they left.

Kalou left Chelsea, scored 30 goals in 2 seasons for Lille and earned a move to the Bundesliga...he may not be at a top side but he's a regular and he's scoring goals.

As for Malouda, he was past his peak by the time he left Chelsea in 2013 and yet from what I've heard, he earned a good amount in the Turkish league

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Mikel is a very smart man. If he leaves Chelsea, and that's a big if, he will not end up at a top side. And he'll never make as much money. We've seen how players like Bosingwa, Kalou, Malouda etc. ended up when they left.

Depends what you think of top sides are. Yes Bayern, Barca and Madrid might not interested, but I could see clubs like PSG, AC Milan, Inter, Roma and some other middle clubs might interested in him.

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Kalou left Chelsea, scored 30 goals in 2 seasons for Lille and earned a move to the Bundesliga...he may not be at a top side but he's a regular and he's scoring goals.

As for Malouda, he was past his peak by the time he left Chelsea in 2013 and yet from what I've heard, he earned a good amount in the Turkish league

I don't understand your point. Like you already said, not top sides. I never said they ended up at League One clubs. There's a long list of decent ex-Chelsea players that never joined a top side again, and my point was Mikel would be on that list.

Depends what you think of top sides are. Yes Bayern, Barca and Madrid might not interested, but I could see clubs like PSG, AC Milan, Inter, Roma and some other middle clubs might interested in him.

Mikel has not been a starter for ages, never in his Chelsea career an undisputed starter. Those kind of sides have never shown interest, they could have bought him if they wanted to. The only way they would get him is if he was a free agent. Maybe Milan and Inter in their current state, but they aren't willing to pay fees for players of such calibre.

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Mou said RLC will stay, whether he replaces Ramires or Mikel is another question...

I'd like to see Ake replace Mikel though. It seems that Chalo is more of a playmaker-ey player rather than a holder like Mikel is, from what I've seen of him play at Reading (not much; I might be wrong) while Ake is supposed to hold. Plus he's a utility player, he can play anywhere in the first 6 outfield positions.

Btw assuming we'd use 4-3-3 next season, that's 3 CDM/CM places available, and including Cesc deep that means we're talking about 4 and 5th choice.

rambo for me is a sure shot player next season. we can agree to disagree but selling someone like rambo to be replaced by a teen would be a massive massive mistake.

call it 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. its almost the same thing. lets take it with 4-2-3-1.

cesc plays as no.10 flanked by hazard and willian/cuadrado with both willian/hazard filling in when cesc is unavailable and with rambo as a filler winger.

for the 2 pivot players, we will have matic and pogba/koke as starters with rambo as the back up along with whoever replaces mikel.

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