🇦🇱 Armando Broja

[killer1257 3,282]

6 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

That is some appraisal. Broja is only one year younger than Haaland, does not have this ferocious will and attitude to always get inot scoring positins and is also not as clinical. But in terms of pace I would agree. Broja is one of the fastest players of that size i have ever seen. They both have this incredible athleticism without being bulky and thus being very mobile, agile and nimble for their size unlike Lukaku. But given how little the latter has done for us so far, I doubt we would be far worse off with Broja in his place. The guy averages a goal every 134mins, which is half the time lukaku needs for a goal. Surely the opposition have been worse on average, the system is different etc. But Broja actually fits our system way better. Not saying I know for sure he is good enough but from the mere characteristics of his play, Broja's relentless pressing, pace and ability to make runs in behind, he is like a big Timo without the mental handicap. I was 100% willing to jump into the cold water with Broja in summer instead of dumping 100m on the wrong player and still don't see where I was wrong.

I agree with you. Broja is a technically better and mentally more stable version of Werner. Broja also has his weird misses occasionally, but his confidence does not get dropped that badly, especially when you compare it to Werner. Broja missed some sitters already in PL, but he still scored his goals. 

Broja reminds me of a young Fernando Torres. Does not mean he will reach his levels, but he is very promising.

Broja and Lukaku can play together. They don't have that much in common, apart from height. Broja is more agile like you said, while Lukaku is a bulldozer. Sadly, Tuchel did not try Broja out more. Hope Broja scores around 15 goals this season and then Tuchel has to give him a chance next season. Scoring 15 goals in a team like Soton is not easy

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[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

On 22/12/2021 at 18:46, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Tella had better stop heading the ball.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

Southampton fans are comparing Mando with Tammy and claiming that their loanee is the better prospect. Fair enough, since I agree with them I can't argue with that. They are also comparing our youngster with Alan Shearer and speculating about signing Mando on a similar deal to the one which took Tammy to Rome. That's to say a relatively small fee and a double your money buy back clause.

I hope when Saints make that phone call no one at Chelsea will pick up. 

[King Kante 1,643]

Think he will be back next season and go into competition with Lukaku (unless he completely throws his toys out of the pram and pushes for a loan.) 

Soton aren't getting him cheap. If anything they'll be lucky to keep Livra for another season as I can see us activating his buyback and we need WB's. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

1 hour ago, King Kante said:

Soton aren't getting him cheap. If anything they'll be lucky to keep Livra for another season as I can see us activating his buyback and we need WB's. 

From what Southampton fans are saying our £40m buy-back option on Tino kicks in after 24 months. So, assuming that's right, if we want to try to bring him back this summer it will have to be a negotiated deal.  

[milka 3,394]

 

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

From what Southampton fans are saying our £40m buy-back option on Tino kicks in after 24 months. So, assuming that's right, if we want to try to bring him back this summer it will have to be a negotiated deal.  

Ah, yes, I forgot about the 24 month stipulation. Well, that may mean another year. However, I do see him back here at some point. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

1 hour ago, milka said:

 

I think Diego was the best of all the Roman era centre forwards so far. Even better than The Drog. None of them did the spectacular or the dramatic like Didier, but peak Diego was a better footballer than peak Drog. If Mando even approaches that level then Rom is going to be doing more interviews with Italian journalists before next season is very old.

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, King Kante said:

Ah, yes, I forgot about the 24 month stipulation. Well, that may mean another year. However, I do see him back here at some point. 

While I'm sure he's grateful for the opportunity Saints have given him I wonder if he's thinking what might have been had he held his nerve.

He would have been an absolute shoe in starter at the minute.

[Beigl 1,387]

9 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I think Diego was the best of all the Roman era centre forwards so far. Even better than The Drog. None of them did the spectacular or the dramatic like Didier, but peak Diego was a better footballer than peak Drog. If Mando even approaches that level then Rom is going to be doing more interviews with Italian journalists before next season is very old.

How high would you rate Anelka among them?

Edited January 12, 2022 by Beigl

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

3 minutes ago, Beigl said:

How high do you rate Anelka?

Hot and cold I felt and, as I saw it, never got out of Didier's shadow while here. So, being behind The Drog automatically puts him behind Diego in my calculation.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Hot and cold I felt and, as I saw it, never got out of Didier's shadow while here. So, being behind The Drog automatically puts him behind Diego in my calculation.

His influence in big games were minuscule as well. 

[Superblue 6,372]

8 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I think Diego was the best of all the Roman era centre forwards so far. Even better than The Drog. None of them did the spectacular or the dramatic like Didier, but peak Diego was a better footballer than peak Drog. If Mando even approaches that level then Rom is going to be doing more interviews with Italian journalists before next season is very old.

Difficult one to decide I think. Costa was definitely a more lethal predator in and around the box and had a great striker instinct and technique to go with that. Didier is always hard to assess because if you look at his stats in more detail he only ever had a couple of outstanding Premier League campaigns but then always stepped up in cups and europe.

I think if you're looking for one to pull you through a league campaign you'd possibly take Diego. Cup finals though I'm definitely taking Drogba, the man was literally a cheat code for Chelsea in them.

I think the only other striker in the Roman era I would put up against Costa and Drogba, although because he never settled probably sits a little below both is Crespo. I was always a massive fan of him. Both feet, incredible attack positioning and excellent in front of goal. There was one goal against Liverpool at home which always stuck out with a ball over the top at an angle, perfectly timed run and anticipation and he just buried it with his left foot. It was a huge shame that he never settled in England (ironically he still talks warmly about his time at Chelsea and I think now on reflection wishes he'd tried more to make things work) - I think if he'd stayed for a couple more years over those early Mourinho years he'd be viewed very much in the same way as Drogba and Costa were.

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9 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

 but peak Diego was a better footballer than peak Drog.

Drogba best seasons were 06/07 and 09/10 with 33 and 37 goals. When did Costa gave us something like that? Diego best season for us is 15 goals shorter than Drogba best season.

Edited January 13, 2022 by NikkiCFC

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On 12/01/2022 at 16:46, OhForAGreavsie said:

I think Diego was the best of all the Roman era centre forwards so far. Even better than The Drog. None of them did the spectacular or the dramatic like Didier, but peak Diego was a better footballer than peak Drog. If Mando even approaches that level then Rom is going to be doing more interviews with Italian journalists before next season is very old.

I respect your opinion but your claim Diego better than drogba is right up there with your ‘Alonso is not the problem, Chilwell is’ line

drogba was clearly better technically. His first touch, passing, variety of finishes be it in the air, from distance, on the turn. Thats not even up for debate. Technique wise Diego was basically Lukaku with better work rate. A mean aggressive poacher.  He had like 2 20 goals seasons for us and 2 more good seasons at Atlético. The rest of his career he did very little. Despite drogba always being touted as not a consistent goal scorer he has far more goals On a higher level than Diego 

drogba also decided numerous big games for us. Diego was quite anonymous in those . 
sorry there really is not an ounce of truth in this.

drogs clearly the better footballer. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

He genuinely has so many tools to be a success here. He did well against Man City. 

[Stats 7,142]

Was an absolute handful again. Scored but could of had a hattrick, but his pace tormented the Spurs defence. Another impressive outing. Amount of progress is evident when you realise that he started of from not getting a game, apart from up games then being brought on as a sub to now undisputed starter.

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On 12/01/2022 at 17:03, OhForAGreavsie said:

Hot and cold I felt and, as I saw it, never got out of Didier's shadow while here. So, being behind The Drog automatically puts him behind Diego in my calculation.