Coronaviral

[Special Juan 28,141]

Another 800 plus in the UK, this is just truly awful. 

Not helped by idiots on Westminster Bridge and people still crammed on tubes and thousands of flights still arriving.

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1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

Another 800 plus in the UK, this is just truly awful. 

Not helped by idiots on Westminster Bridge and people still crammed on tubes and thousands of flights still arriving.

There's like a drug that is being put out by Gilead that is supposed to be doing well. 

Let's hope they can make progress on that. 

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4 hours ago, Fernando said:

There's like a drug that is being put out by Gilead that is supposed to be doing well. 

Let's hope they can make progress on that. 

Remdesivir

 

Early peek at data on Gilead coronavirus drug suggests patients are responding to treatment

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/early-peek-at-data-on-gilead-coronavirus-drug-suggests-patients-are-responding-to-treatment/

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8 hours ago, Fernando said:

So the numbers in China revise up to 50%. 

I guess nothing surprising since most people expected China to be lying about their numbers. 

No doubt they are lying. 

I agree on this with Trump.

Trump says China secretly has ‘far higher’ coronavirus death toll

 

“China has just announced a doubling in the number of their deaths from the Invisible Enemy,” Trump tweeted on Friday. “It is far higher than that and far higher than the U.S., not even close!”

 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/trump-says-china-secretly-has-far-higher-coronavirus-death-toll/

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20 hours ago, Vesper said:

It's not easy to be lock down for more then 30 days. But in wealthy nations we can weather the storm. But what about in poor countries? Like in the regions of Central America, South America, India, Asia and what not. People who make a living outside, there's no business running. Ilegal immigrants who get no help. People who have big families. 

NY can sustain till may 15 and beyond. But those poor countries how can they sustain with their economy's shut down? 

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Councils been told to open up Cemeteries which is good as didnt make sense to have parks open and not those...

Soooooo our nursery been shut cause not enough children...staff been furloughed...except now theres seems to be a Goverment U turn and the possibility not getting the 80%...interesting...

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Stockholm will reach 'herd immunity' within weeks

Claim comes amid bitter debate over success of Sweden's relaxed approach

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/18/stockholm-will-reach-herd-immunity-within-weeks/

Sweden's infectious diseases chief has said parts of the country could achieve "herd immunity" as early as next month as debate rages over the rising death toll.

The country's laissez faire experiment with coronavirus restrictions has made it a European outlier - drawing intrigue from around the globe.

Data this week showed the rate of new cases peaking for the first time as deaths continued to outstrip neighbouring countries with strict lockdowns.

Both the architects and the critics of Sweden's approach - which has left kindergartens, schools, restaurants, cafés and bars open - have both seized on new figures, claiming tentative victories.

Anders Tegnell, the state epidemiologist who has been the figurehead of Sweden's strategy,  said: "We're still at the level we were at a couple of weeks ago. There was some kind of peak before the Easter weekend, and now there's some kind of downturn."

Later that evening he told Norwegian TV's leading weekly debate programme that the models run by his colleagues at the Public Health Agency of Sweden indicated that the population in Stockholm, the centre of Sweden's epidemic, could achieve herd immunity as early as next month.

"According to our modellers, we are starting to see so many immune people in the population in Stockholm that it is starting to have an effect on the spread of the infection," he said.

"Our models point to some time in May," he added, when asked about herd immunity in the capital. "These are mathematical models, they're only as good as the data we put into them. We will see if they are right."

One of the advantages of her immunity and loose social restrictions is protecting the economy.

But while Sweden has stopped short of forcing the closure of restaurants and bars, card data from Swedbank to be released on Monday shows a "sharp drop in activity in the first two weeks of April", with restaurants particularly affected, according to Andreas Wallström, the bank's chief economist.

IMF forecasts this week also predicted GDP would shrink by 6.8 per cent, broadly in line with other more restrictive countries around the continent.

Mr Tegnell's upbeat assessment came on a day when the number of recorded deaths from coronavirus in Sweden rose 130 in a single day to 1,333. By Friday the death toll had hit 1,400. Sweden's death rate is much higher than in its Nordic neighbours, but it remains comfortably better off than much more locked-down countries such as the UK and France.

Lena Einhorn, the virologist who is one of the few public critics of Sweden's strategy, told the Sunday Telegraph she was incredulous that Dr Tegnell could present this week's dismal figures as good news.

"In Finland on Thursday the cumulative number was 13 dead per million inhabitants, in Sweden it was 130 per million inhabitants. Finland: 75 dead, Norway: 152 dead, Sweden: 1,333 dead," she said. "And yet Anders Tegnell is saying 'we are feeling very hopeful'. What are they hopeful about?".

Even without being ordered into lockdown, Swedes have nonetheless been practising social distancing. Neighbouring countries like Norway and Denmark began lifting social restrictions this week, bringing much of Scandinavia broadly back in line with Sweden.

Einhorn was one of 22 scientists who in a letter published in the Dagens Nyheter newspaper on Tuesday called for Sweden's government to break urgently with the country's tradition of leaving decisions to expert agencies, seize control of coronavirus strategy from Dr Tegnell and the agency's chief Johan Carlson, and impose a similar lockdown to those seen in Finland, Norway and Denmark.

But although the group included some of the country's most eminent epidemiologists, including several with senior positions its elite Karolinska Institutet medical university, their call has backfired.

Media commentators rounded on them, with one accusing them of "behaving like scandal-mongers". None of the leaders of Sweden's opposition parties has risked criticising the Public Health Agency, or attacking the country's overall strategy.

It is too early to tell whether Sweden's gamble will pay off, but the country, it seems, is doubling down.

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The report in the Sunday Times today is just utterly horrific.

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[Fernando 6,585]

Questions mount over Christian group behind Central Park Covid-19 hospital

Facility run by Trump ally Franklin Graham’s organisation requires staff to sign statement opposing gay marriage

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Despite all the outrage, Graham, 67, told the Guardian in an interview on Thursday that he believed “the vast majority of New Yorkers are glad that we are there” and that the organisation would remain in Central Park for as long as it was needed.

The preacher, who lives in Boone, North Carolina, added: “It’s just a small handful of people who are opposed. And I find in life there’s always somebody who’s opposed to whatever you do and they’re just naysayers who disagree with our difficult positions and take exception to that.”

Defending the statement of faith, he said: “We are an evangelical Christian organisation and we want to have people of like mind.”

He said “a handful” of qualified people had been turned away because they could not sign the statement of faith, which he said was non-negotiable. “If they agree with it they’ll sign it, if they don’t agree with it then they move on. That’s just who we are and we’re not going to change who we are.”

But he insisted that all patients were treated the same “regardless of their sexual orientation, their race or their religion, it doesn’t matter”.

He also claimed he was not homophobic or Islamophobic, but added: “I certainly disagree with homosexuality and I believe the Bible’s very clear about what it has to say about homosexuality, and that’s my opinion and that’s what I believe, but I’m not anti-gay.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/19/questions-mount-over-christian-group-behind-central-park-covid-19-hospital

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33 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Questions mount over Christian group behind Central Park Covid-19 hospital

Facility run by Trump ally Franklin Graham’s organisation requires staff to sign statement opposing gay marriage

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Despite all the outrage, Graham, 67, told the Guardian in an interview on Thursday that he believed “the vast majority of New Yorkers are glad that we are there” and that the organisation would remain in Central Park for as long as it was needed.

The preacher, who lives in Boone, North Carolina, added: “It’s just a small handful of people who are opposed. And I find in life there’s always somebody who’s opposed to whatever you do and they’re just naysayers who disagree with our difficult positions and take exception to that.”

Defending the statement of faith, he said: “We are an evangelical Christian organisation and we want to have people of like mind.”

He said “a handful” of qualified people had been turned away because they could not sign the statement of faith, which he said was non-negotiable. “If they agree with it they’ll sign it, if they don’t agree with it then they move on. That’s just who we are and we’re not going to change who we are.”

But he insisted that all patients were treated the same “regardless of their sexual orientation, their race or their religion, it doesn’t matter”.

He also claimed he was not homophobic or Islamophobic, but added: “I certainly disagree with homosexuality and I believe the Bible’s very clear about what it has to say about homosexuality, and that’s my opinion and that’s what I believe, but I’m not anti-gay.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/19/questions-mount-over-christian-group-behind-central-park-covid-19-hospital

ffs, sad

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3 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

 

 

So ironic (moronic) as Trump's agenda is to outlaw reproductive rights, and the groups fighting to save them are the sui generis of the slogan 'Our bodies, our choice' 

[Fernando 6,585]

Any word on how the re open are going around the world? 

Last time I remember China was trying to re open, recently Germany. 

How is that going? 

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