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6 hours ago, chippy said:

Furthermore.

The same Germany who banned exports of protective equipment.

Shows this is not about morals, just very sad political point scoring at a time when none of us should be stooping so low.

All Governments should be putting the lives of their people first! Looking after others when and where we can is always very important, but a clear second to looking after your own first!

 

 

 

 

 You say governments should 'put their own first', yet condemn Germany for keeping their own equipment. Banning exports of your own equipment is different from hijacking a shipment already bought and paid for in transit by another nation. You also say 'none of us should stoop so low', then you do exactly what you are criticising.

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Plenty of news items attacking footballers. It’s obviously a complex situation but always easy to bash footballers (mostly working class and/or foreigners, prime targets for the billionaire tax avoiding media owners ), whilst the billionaire owners are let off. Not surprising the govt. jumped at the chance to play the deflection/blame game the other day.

What about all the much wealthier people in the country, and/or those profiting from the current situation, such as Jacob Rees Mogg ? If anything, I’ve seen lots of reports of footballers contributing individually out of their own pockets.

 

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16 hours ago, Vesper said:

our death rate is exploding, especially compared to the rest of the Nordics

I want to hang Anders Tegnell from a lampost

it is NOT just economics (which is a barbarous way of looking at it)

Tegnell and the rest of the cunts maintains for ages that COVID-19 was barely transmittable, and are pro-immigration/refugee ideologues who let that factor into their calculus, in regards to using the refugees as a reason to not shut the schools down and accusing Denmark, Norway, Finland, etc of being racist

you love to paint a picture of Left v Right in terms of ideology

it is NOT that simple

The US and Sweden are two examples

a fucked up pseudo variant of the LW (Sweden, NOT Denmark, Norway, Finland who are overall so-called LW BUT are streets ahead of us on immigration AND COVID-19) and a fucked up RW/Corporatist systemic form of control scheme (the US) BOTH making disastrous decisions

The UK is also in the US camp to a point, and is actually even more fucked atm in terms of deaths per 100,000 that Sweden is

going for herd immunity is fucking genocidal with this absolute cunt of a virus

 

That's why this will lead to a world government to supercede major decisions. Kinda like what the EU does for the country's in their union. Maybe it will be the UN who forms this so that when such global scenario happens they take over and make the crucial decisions. 

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Well Johnsons 'virus expert' obviously thinks its a price worth paying. The irony being most of the deaths would be in the demographic that voted for him and Brexit.
What are the alternatives? I've been out of the loop for a week. Is there current plan to lockdown for 2 or 3 months?



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22 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said:

What are the alternatives? I've been out of the loop for a week. Is there current plan to lockdown for 2 or 3 months?



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Yeah could be longer -though think they are supposed to be doing a 'review' in a couple of weeks.

Think @Vesper highlighted the alternative, a conservative estimate of 1.16 million deaths

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On 04/04/2020 at 2:00 PM, chippy said:

Trump has gone much further than the Dems wanted to go on this,  and effectively introduced a free health service giving free treatment to everyone who needs it.

 

 

 

that will never happen, ZERO chance McTurtle in the yank Senate will ever let a single payer (or hybrid type nationalised system) healthcare scheme ever see a vote

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speaking of cunts.............

Jacob Rees-Mogg's investment firm set to make fortune from the coronavirus crisis

EXCLUSIVE: Somerset Capital Management, which the MP co-founded, says market volatility offers a “once or twice in a generation” opportunity to make “super normal returns”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jacob-rees-moggs-investment-firm-21814351

Tory toff Jacob Rees-Mogg’s firm stands to make a fortune out of the turmoil caused by the coronavirus crisis.

The MP owns at least 15 per cent of a company investing in businesses hit by falling share values.

Somerset Capital Management says investors have a “once in a generation” chance of “super normal returns”.

Mr Rees-Mogg stood down as a director of SCM to become Leader of the House of Commons. SCM said it was focusing on clients’ long-term security.

It came as the UK death toll rose by a record 708 – including a boy aged five.

As millions face financial misery, SCM managers are buying into businesses where valuations have tumbled – but should bounce back. Potential gains of 500 per cent are touted.

 

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1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

He looked fucked the other day, he's been tested and tested positive, this isn't good and isn't 'for more tests' you either have it or don't, it was confirmed and he's now very poorly.

the entire key (minus inherent pre-existing health issues and age) is get on antibiotics ASAP

in this type of viral respiratory pathology, the virus doesn't kill you, the pneumonia does

a person's immune system attacks all the virally infected cells, and the dead cellular material in your lungs turns to fluid and purulent material that sets up massive bacterial infections

 

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Big post incoming, wouldnt have done it but seem the queens speech so had to be done 😂

Seen the Queen did a rallying speech on the tele. All well and good but when will her and the fucking rest of the royal family get their hands in their pockets and dig deep? They have a net worth of what? £80 odd billion betweem them if the figures are to be believed? It is absolutely criminal the lack of talk there is about them not donating anything, even more so when you look at the urgent need for ventilators and face masks and what not for the NHS. 

Yes all these other fuckers should also look at themselves in the mirrors and also be putting there hands in. Doesnt have to be 50% of their wealth or whatever but jesus christ I mean everything will help one way or another. 

I mean the whole narrative on footballers taking a paycut is well and good but not everyones Carlos Tevez, Leo Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, whoever else having had years and years of huge wages or sponsorships etc. The lower league guys wont be on that much and it will affect them hugely. In the UK outside of the PL which leagues really have that much money invested into it and whatnot for paying out to their players? The PL is the richest league in the world but again they need to try do it on a case by case basis based on what bracket of pay certain players earn in and outside of the PL. Would it necessarily be fair to say to somebody on 5k a week okay take a 30% paycut and then to somebody on 250k a week also take the same? Wayne Rooney also hit the nail on the head, it seems as if the whole footballers and paycut shit has covered up with how the government has dealt with the whole situation.

Big Boris was seen on the tv shaking hands with nurses and doctors in hospitals when they had advised no handshakes or contact and now he is in hospital ill as fuck too 2 weeks later. Sounds harsh but its ironic isnt it? And that Catherine Calderwood? What is she all about, she should of been sacked on the spot with her tail between her legs. Talk about a daft cunt. 

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On 05/04/2020 at 11:53 AM, Fernando said:

That's why this will lead to a world government to supercede major decisions. Kinda like what the EU does for the country's in their union. Maybe it will be the UN who forms this so that when such global scenario happens they take over and make the crucial decisions. 

Can't think of a worse idea!

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12 hours ago, Vesper said:

that will never happen, ZERO chance McTurtle in the yank Senate will ever let a single payer (or hybrid type nationalised system) healthcare scheme ever see a vote

It will only be for the virus emergency, not  permanent free treatment.

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