Super Frank Thread

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11 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Allegri is a winner? Lol, people are discrediting any manager who won with PSG. yet Juventus have been even more dominant in Serie A, they have won 9 straight league title. He has not won shit outside of grandpa league.

I remember Juventus started poorly in 2015/16, losing 4 and drawing 3 of their opening 10 league games and were down in 12th but then won 26 of their next 28 league games to win the title with ease. 

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1 minute ago, killer1257 said:

Happens when you sign only two world class player (Silva and Ziyech) and all the other players that were signed were still talents and need more time to shine. Takes time to develop and work on their weaknesses.

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OR more like this happens when all the manager has with his style is spam crosses into the box and hope for the best...

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4 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Are you sure? Cuz he won it with Milan too. Also the manner in which he did it cant be overlooked, yes it might be a dead league etc but they were still rock solid under him, he could handle them big games too.

Ibramovic carried his ass, once he was sold, Allegri was exposed and fired soon after. Seems like at 39 years old Ibra might carry another Milan manager to a title. Serie A is a broke league, do you even realize the quality of their squads. Inter have built a side on top of players that can’t compete at higher level of leagues.

 

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Just now, Clockwork said:

Ibramovic carried his ass, once he was sold, Allegri was exposed and fired soon after. Seems like at 39 years old Ibra might carry another Milan manager to a title.

Yeah but look at the mess Milan were between then and before last season or so.

And the ironic thing is, Milan have been winning games this season without Ibrahimovic and they are still unbeaten as well. 

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This should be our next manager. A close friend of Roman after all...

 

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7 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Ibramovic carried his ass, once he was sold, Allegri was exposed and fired soon after. Seems like at 39 years old Ibra might carry another Milan manager to a title. Serie A is a broke league, do you even realize the quality of their squads. Inter have built a side on top of players that can’t compete at higher level of leagues.

 

He is still a good manager theres no doubt about that. JM too won the lot with Inter, did that make him a broken manager?

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3 minutes ago, lucio said:

Oh please no....fuck no.

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11 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

He is still a good manager theres i no doubt about that. JM too won the lot with Inter, did that make him a broken manager?

Serie A was respectful league back then; FFP and rise of Qatari and UAE clubs destroyed the league. The thing is most Serie A owners were not in the business of making money out of their club, it was a hobby to them not a serious business. Regulations and unable to compete financially left the league in shambles.

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17 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Ibramovic carried his ass, once he was sold, Allegri was exposed and fired soon after. Seems like at 39 years old Ibra might carry another Milan manager to a title. Serie A is a broke league, do you even realize the quality of their squads. Inter have built a side on top of players that can’t compete at higher level of leagues.

 

Just ibrahimovic is not enough to win you a title. milans title win under allegri was against superior sides and with a very average and washed out squad. allegri got the best out of them and that is his forte. building a dynasty is not.

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I‘m so fed up - I would even take Ted Lasso

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1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

Poch is gone bro. No chance he comes because he is also a Spurs legend.

Glenn Hoddle was managing us in past fam.

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6 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Just ibrahimovic is not enough to win you a title. milans title win under allegri was against superior sides and with a very average and washed out squad. allegri got the best out of them and that is his forte. building a dynasty is not.

The only superior side you could argue was Inter, and Rafa Benetiz was so poor even an incredible second half season by Leonardo couldn’t help them overcome the odds. 
 

The best work any manager has done in Serie A over the past ten years is Conte and Sarri, and we hired both of them and fired both of them. 

I am done talking about Allgeri;  because none of you could argue why he is a good fit, and it all come down to this nonsense He Is a WiNnEr. 

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Despite being one of the most successful managers in Italy, Allegri’s Juventus were hardly the envy of other teams for their style of play because they were too pragmatic and hardly exciting.

Despite having the likes of Paulo Dybala and Ronaldo, Allegri still setup his team just to get results and he didn’t care about the style of play.

His teams also seem to rely on superstars like Dybala, Ronaldo and Gonzalo Higuain, it would be hard for him to get the funds to sign players of that calibre.

Allegri also hardly promoted youth players, which would go against the culture of the club somewhat.

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2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

We are 6th on 26 points after spending 200m on top quality players. 7 wins 5 draws 4 losses. Looks ok until you realise Villa and United have played less games than us and are above us. Tottenham, Man City and Southampton have played less games than us and will likely leapfrog us by the time they catch up. 

This is the tipping point of the season, for me he has to go and soon if we want to get any chance of making top 4 yet alone pushing for an improvement on last seasons position.

If it were any other manager and it would not be acceptable to be outside top 4 with these group of players and to also be sitting wondering how are we going to score goals or create chances. 

8th (very likely) when you even out the games in hand of Shitty (2 games, they would be above us now if they had played tonight) and Spuds (1 v Fulham)

could be 9th, but I doubt SOTON beat Liverpool