Super Frank Thread

[ZaynChelsea 423]

Just now, lucio said:

We hung in to Mourinho too long because of sentiment and we ended up missing out on Jurgen Klopp, do the same now and we will miss out on Poch/ whoever else to Arsenal / Madrid / Utd 

BS

 

Poch has won fuck all with Spurs and even his Spurs look much more improved under Mourinho.

Lampard really got some trust from me left since he brought us to Top 4 last season. People will argue that others were struggling and that‘s why we got there but well, we struggled less than them.

If he fucks up the next matches though - the trend is your friend and Lamps should be gone.

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Think the club will only part ways if Top 4 is out of reach. Context will play a huge part if we finish Top 4. Think a comfortable Top 4 finish is the only thing that guarantees Lampard's safety. 

 

[Tomo 21,751]

2 minutes ago, Mana said:

How can we spend all that money last season, get quality players in and perform even worse than last season? Lampard isn't the man to take us forward to win things I said out loud from day one. I was like "No, IN THE NAME THAT IS HOLY NO!" when we approached him. Because I knew what was coming. The proof is in the fecking pudding right now. He surprised me by securing us to 4th place (just about) however that was it. Everything else we saw last season and now is what I expected from a rookie coach who failed at Derby, and have NO experience managing a PL club.

I still have to be convinced he can take us to the next level but to say he failed at Derby is total horseshit.

3 minutes ago, Mana said:

We are playing Atletico in February. Atletico are rubbing their hands. We are Chelsea Football Club. They should be scared to play us as much as we are scared to play them. We have a blue LION on our badge. But instead in Atletico's eyes we are a blue cub. The definition of "cub" is what Chelsea is right now. Inexperienced. A novice. A learner. 

That inexperienced manager also became the first ever manager to do a league double on Mourinho, handed Ancelotti his heaviest ever league defeat and has more than held his own against Pep, lets not pretend Lampard 100% won't be able to come up with something on the night because as i said, he may have it all to do to prove he can turn us into a title challenging side but he's more than proved he can challenge the top manager's in one off situations.

[Tomo 21,751]

4 minutes ago, lucio said:

We hung in to Mourinho too long because of sentiment and we ended up missing out on Jurgen Klopp, do the same now and we will miss out on Poch/ whoever else to Arsenal / Madrid / Utd 

What is this obsession with Pochettino (and calling an ex Spurs manager by his nickname but i disgress)? His style of football doesn't suit our squad.

If the time comes for Lampard we should be going all out for Ten Hag.

[ZaynChelsea 423]

Conte relied on Hazard and Costa and is fucking up right now and Sarri also relied purely on Hazard. These so-called experienced manager are no way better than Lamps. At least we finished our CL group not on 4th place like the amazing Conte

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

If the time comes for Lampard we should be going all out for Ten Hag.

We discussed this before but no thanks. 

[Vesper 30,081]

a comparison

Spuds v us v Pool

hard nose players (not saying pure talent, saying fierce competitors)

bold means not a full time starter (when the teams are all healthy)

Spuds

    
Hugo Lloris    
Eric Dier   
Toby Alderweireld  
Ben Davies 
Matt Doherty   
Serge Aurier    
Pierre-Emile Höjbjerg   
Moussa Sissoko  
Heung-min Son   
Harry Kane    

 

us

Kurt Zouma  
Thiago Silva   
Ben Chilwell   
Reece James   
César Azpilicueta    
N'Golo Kanté    
Mateo Kovacic    
Mason Mount   
Olivier Giroud  

 

Liverpool (EVERY regular starter is a hard man, even TA-A in his own way for sure)

 
Alisson   
Virgil van Dijk   
Joe Gomez   
Joel Matip   
Andrew Robertson   
Trent Alexander-Arnold   
Neco Williams   
Fabinho   
Georginio Wijnaldum    
Jordan Henderson    
James Milner    
Curtis Jones  
Sadio Mané   
Diogo Jota    
Mohamed Salah    
Roberto Firmino  

[DANILA 290]

3 minutes ago, ZaynChelsea said:

Conte relied on Hazard and Costa and is fucking up right now and Sarri also relied purely on Hazard. These so-called experienced manager are no way better than Lamps. At least we finished our CL group not on 4th place like the amazing Conte

Neither of those managers had the backing that Lampard has. 

[Tomo 21,751]

1 minute ago, ZaynChelsea said:

Conte relied on Hazard and Costa and is fucking up right now and Sarri also relied purely on Hazard. These so-called experienced manager are no way better than Lamps. At least we finished our CL group not on 4th place like the amazing Conte

People pining for Conte or saying he'll do better with this squad need to first realize we got this squad due to high quality squad building, something Conte has proved totally inadequate at.

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

If the time comes for Lampard we should be going all out for Ten Hag.

Ten Hag said Sarri is his idol. 

3rd place, EL and Cup final with great performance. I think we would be in much better place if we continued with Sarri. I know he didn't want to stay either after Juventus call and transfer ban. 

[Tomo 21,751]

Just now, DANILA said:

Neither of those managers had the backing that Lampard has. 

Unless we spenf in January, we spent more in Conte's second season than we did this.

[ZaynChelsea 423]

You all will disagree and probably players like Havertz as well but Simeone is the perfect Chelsea manager concerning desire, passion and results. 
 

ten Haag would be the next experiment