xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 LolSent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: Lol Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk  roflmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Vesper 30,195 Posted February 9, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted February 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: Lol Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk  Jorginho just replied kellzfresh, Johnnyeye, NikkiCFC and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Manchester City vs Chelsea: Maurizio Sarri challenges Jorginho to take control of the game against champions https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-vs-chelsea-preview-maurizio-sarri-fixtures-title-run-in-a8772066.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Luxury player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Expensive fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1905didierblue 748 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 This player is probably the most indicative of the manager who has bought him. A fraud, has no idea what he is doing and just needs to leave asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Let's not be silly. Jorginho is a square peg in a round hole in this team, and in this division. As part of a double pivot, he could be a very good player for seasons to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 One of the worst midfielders that have ever played with Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Tautvix said: One of the worst midfielders that have ever played with Chelsea. Lol Clockwork and Dazzy_Vance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Okay, Jorginho doesn't look quite suited to play in the defensive midfielder/regista role in a 4-3-3 but he's getting hung out to dry by Sarri really. It's clear that Jorginho requires someone to work alongside him or at least some sort of tactical tweak to leave him less exposed but Sarri continuously play him in a system that leaves him - and others - get exploited and refuse to make any changes. Â Superblue and Dazzy_Vance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 The biggest worry I have with Jorginho is actually linked to how well Bakayoko has played this season at Milan. I think that the amount of time and space given on the ball in midfield in Italy is overall huge in comparison to the Premier League and Jorginho is struggling with this. Bakayoko is very possibly the worst midfielder I've seen at Chelsea in the Roman era and for him to be winning multiple man of the match awards for Milan this season says much more about Serie A in comparison to the Premier League at present. Whilst he's slow and exposed on his own in midfield defensively, he is still technically a very good footballer. That is clear to see in my opinion. I think given time to adapt to the league he could still be a good player but he needs Kante alongside him in my opinion in a two to cover him. He is being brutally exposed by Sarri's tactics and philosophy at the moment. Dazzy_Vance, Vesper and DDA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: The biggest worry I have with Jorginho is actually linked to how well Bakayoko has played this season at Milan. I think that the amount of time and space given on the ball in midfield in Italy is overall huge in comparison to the Premier League and Jorginho is struggling with this. Bakayoko is very possibly the worst midfielder I've seen at Chelsea in the Roman era and for him to be winning multiple man of the match awards for Milan this season says much more about Serie A in comparison to the Premier League at present. Whilst he's slow and exposed on his own in midfield defensively, he is still technically a very good footballer. That is clear to see in my opinion. I think given time to adapt to the league he could still be a good player but he needs Kante alongside him in my opinion in a two to cover him. He is being brutally exposed by Sarri's tactics and philosophy at the moment. So a 4 2Â 3 1? Or a 3 4 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: So a 4 2 3 1? Or a 3 4 3? Despite our success in the first season under Conte, I've always preferred a back 4 and I think at present we are best suited to playing a 4-2-3-1. Although any formation we use, we're still at least 3 players away from being really competitive with our current crop. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Despite our success in the first season under Conte, I've always preferred a back 4 and I think at present we are best suited to playing a 4-2-3-1. Although any formation we use, we're still at least 3 players away from being really competitive with our current crop.                         Kepa  Zappacosta            Rudiger    AC              Emerson                    Kante          Kovacic    CHO               Ruben Loftus-Cheek                Hazard                           Higuain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Vesper said:                         Kepa  Zappacosta            Rudiger    AC              Emerson                    Kante          Kovacic    CHO               Ruben Loftus-Cheek                Hazard                           Higuain Most of that to me looks more balanced than what we are currently. I know he isn't playing well at present but I would always put Azpi over Zappacosta. If we're to the point where Zappacosta is a good or our best option, we're in big trouble in my opinion. I'm a big advocate for bringing Reece James back in the summer and giving him sufficient minutes to be given the opportunity to become first choice right back over Azpi in the next 12 - 18 months from the summer. Kovacic and Jorginho should be able to rotate in that role as 'deep playmaker' and I actually think against some of the lower teams especially at home that Kovacic and Jorginho could potentially play together as Kovacic has it in him to be more defensively minded and make tackles. RLC I would give a chance in that position with more licence to play higher up the pitch. Barkley I would see as a bit of a utility player who could rotate with RLC and potentially play as one of the deeper midfielders too. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pizy 18,927 Posted February 11, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted February 11, 2019 Really sucks to see. He's a gem of a player who is paying a severe price during this experimental season. I'm certainly not ready to bin him like a lot of our fans and seemingly 100% of the media are. Thing is, where do you move him in Sarri's 4-3-3? There really isn't a place. If we played a 4-2-3-1 where Kante moves back into a pivot and therefor is always close to him I guess it would be better. But Sarri plays only one system so can't see it happening. Strike, DDA, communicate and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Pizy said: Really sucks to see. He's a gem of a player who is paying a severe price during this experimental season. I'm certainly not ready to bin him like a lot of our fans and seemingly 100% of the media are. Thing is, where do you move him in Sarri's 4-3-3? There really isn't a place. If we played a 4-2-3-1 where Kante moves back into a pivot and therefor is always close to him I guess it would be better. But Sarri plays only one system so can't see it happening. Jorginho could be positioned on the RCM, where he could still effectively help the buildup and distribute while being relived of protecting the back four. I personally think Jorginho role is very difficult what he is asked to do, he is basically asked to be Busquets and Xavi on this team. Kante alone can definitely not fill Jorginho role, and i am not sure how can do that definitely no one at Chelsea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Pizy said: Really sucks to see. He's a gem of a player who is paying a severe price during this experimental season. I'm certainly not ready to bin him like a lot of our fans and seemingly 100% of the media are. Thing is, where do you move him in Sarri's 4-3-3? There really isn't a place. If we played a 4-2-3-1 where Kante moves back into a pivot and therefor is always close to him I guess it would be better. But Sarri plays only one system so can't see it happening. Funny thing is, Sarri has mentioned about playing the 4-2-3-1 but he seems hell-bent on playing 4-3-3. You wonder why he doesn't just try out the former at this point and see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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