Vesper 30,195 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 hours ago, manpe said: I haven't read the match day thread, is my opinion unpopular? He had far from his best game, did improve in the second half, his passes were off a bit. I would rate him a 5.5 to a 6 out of ten. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 hours ago, manpe said: I haven't read the match day thread, is my opinion unpopular?  6 hours ago, Jason said: I haven't read through the matchday thread but from what I've seen on Twitter during the match. Some said he was excellent, some thought he was bad. The reactions are certainly contrasting. I thought he was very impressive and controlled the game. He was given MOTM also by Sky Sports. I would of given it to Luiz but thought Jorginho was very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 The Chelsea fans who are criticising Jorginho for his performance yesterfay just don't understand football isn't all about goals and assists when playing in midfield. It doesn't take an ounce of intelligence to realise his role is to retain possession through passing until an opportunity arises.. The average football fan is pretty dumb though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 52 minutes ago, DDA said: The Chelsea fans who are criticising Jorginho for his performance yesterfay just don't understand football isn't all about goals and assists when playing in midfield. It doesn't take an ounce of intelligence to realise his role is to retain possession through passing until an opportunity arises.. The average football fan is pretty dumb though. I know Jorginho isn't about goals and assists, his passing was off and lost possession too many times for my liking. Now I don't appreciate you sneakily calling me and everybody else who doesn't agree with you dumb. Are you the etalon of smart above average fans that you take the liberty to classify peoples' intelligence? I've yet to see you prove yours, let alone judge anybody else's. Miguelito 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 48 minutes ago, manpe said: I know Jorginho isn't about goals and assists, his passing was off and lost possession too many times for my liking. Now I don't appreciate you sneakily calling me and everybody else who doesn't agree with you dumb. Are you the etalon of smart above average fans that you take the liberty to classify peoples' intelligence? I've yet to see you prove yours, let alone judge anybody else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, manpe said: I know Jorginho isn't about goals and assists, his passing was off and lost possession too many times for my liking. Now I don't appreciate you sneakily calling me and everybody else who doesn't agree with you dumb. Are you the etalon of smart above average fans that you take the liberty to classify peoples' intelligence? I've yet to see you prove yours, let alone judge anybody else's. I was actually refering to the Twitter brigade tbh because yes it is flooded with idiots,  hey if you want to take it as a swipe at you, be my guest. He may have lost possession but I feel he had a very good game. I don't seek to imrpess or prove to you that I am intelligent manpe... I have better things to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, DDA said: The Chelsea fans who are criticising Jorginho for his performance yesterfay just don't understand football isn't all about goals and assists when playing in midfield. It doesn't take an ounce of intelligence to realise his role is to retain possession through passing until an opportunity arises.. The average football fan is pretty dumb though. Replace midfield with wings and you can say the same about Willian. He provides energy, injects pace, and does the defensive work to keep a side balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: Replace midfield with wings and you can say the same about Willian. He provides energy, injects pace, and does the defensive work to keep a side balanced. That he does indeed. The frustrations with Willians game isn't what you have mentioned because that is the positive side of Willian. Willian can't make simple passes at crucial times in the final 3rd which is vital for an attacking winger is it not? Jorginho is on his 1st season playing in a faster paced league than what he is familiar with. He is the cog in midfield to keep the ball moving which he does very well when the team are all playing in unison. communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,195 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 31/12/2018 at 11:27 PM, Sir Mikel OBE said: Replace midfield with wings and you can say the same about Willian. He provides energy, injects pace, and does the defensive work to keep a side balanced. Injects pace??? Willian slows the damn game down to a snails pace with his fumbling bumbling passes and tricksy leg whips-overs. He is a human rain delay kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 11 hours ago, Vesper said: Injects pace??? Willian slows the damn game down to a snails pace with his fumbling bumbling passes and tricksy leg whips-overs. He is a human rain delay In the final third for sure, but bringing it up from the back and midfield? I've seen him dribble an entire midfield on numerous occasions. Sure he doesnt do anything when he gets to their box, but up to that point he plays a good role in transitioning from defense to offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 5:27 PM, Sir Mikel OBE said: Replace midfield with wings and you can say the same about Willian. He provides energy, injects pace, and does the defensive work to keep a side balanced. Is this a serious post? You really think comparing a forward and a defensive midfielder attributes is comparable. Those qualities is a priority for a DM, and Jorginho is excellent at that. We have conceded the second lowest goals in the PL, and Jorginho is a huge part of that. On the other hand we are struggling offensively, and Willian is huge part of the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Biggest complaint about Jorginho I have right now is that he can't or won't shoot the ball. He gets into very good shooting positions multiple times each game but barely ever takes the shot. I think he should really improve in that aspect in the future. Out of all the players he gets into the best central shooting positions the most often. Barkley and Kante usually find themselves in much more crowded spots around the 16 yard box and thus they can't take a clear shot kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 According to the Premier League's website, per the tweet below, Jorginho has played a huge 1,896 passes this season - more than any other player - without recording a single assist.@_@Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 ‘Just clocked that Ederson has more assists than Jorginho’: Fans losing patience with Chelsea star after stat shows midfielder has made 1,896 passes in the Premier League without setting up a single goal https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6573547/Chelsea-fans-losing-patience-Jorginho-pass-master-set-single-goal.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, xPetrCechx said: According to the Premier League's website, per the tweet below, Jorginho has played a huge 1,896 passes this season - more than any other player - without recording a single assist. @_@ Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk  Not really a big deal for me. He is there to recycle possession. Kovacic and Willian number are more concerning DDA and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 18/08/2018 at 4:38 PM, Henrique said: I'm still think right now he creates more problems than anything. When Arsenal was creating chances for fun in the end of 1st half, Jorginho was completely lost, marking no one, he can't win any 1vs1 battle, he can't harass the opponents. In the second half he have an assist to Abumayang, and he was lucky that was a soft off-side. I'm not really concerned about the number of touches, to be honest. 5 months later my opinion is the same. He is useless when the team don't have the ball, and as his zero assists stats prove, most of his contribution during the game is touching the ball...for me he is the biggest hidden weak link of this team. Thats why I think its a terrible idea when a manager sees a specific player as "key" to his tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 The fact he hasn't even assisted a goal this season (24 games) is extremely alarming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! 0007 511 Posted January 9, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted January 9, 2019 4  tackles yesterday(only Kante had more and that includes Tottenham’s players),joint first at interceptions,one blocked shot and people say he doesn’t do anything without the ball...Jorginho does his job almost perfectly.We have 5 players in front  of him on the pitch(actually 7,if we include the full-backs) and they are supposed to provide the needed assists.  This guy is the main reason for the way we control games and people still slate him... kellzfresh, DYC., Stats and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, 0007 said: 4  tackles yesterday(only Kante had more and that includes Tottenham’s players),joint first at interceptions,one blocked shot and people say he doesn’t do anything without the ball...Jorginho does his job almost perfectly.We have 5 players in front  of him on the pitch(actually 7,if we include the full-backs) and they are supposed to provide the needed assists.  This guy is the main reason for the way we control games and people still slate him... Controlling games? Without creating chances to score? That's not controlling games.  Jorginho only passes back... Haven't seen a single good pass forward from him this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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