The Sarri Thread

[lucio 5,418]

even benitez would have us performing better and getting more points

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

People comparing this Chelsea to Sarri's Napoli clearly have only watched maybe a few Napoli matches those against Juventus and some Champions League ones. This Chelsea does not even come close to that Napoli, if Sarri had come here having Napoli play like Chelsea do now I would say yes the manager is at fault for this dull display we see now. But he had Napoli play beautiful football and improved all his players - during his time there Insigne was one of the most dangerous wingers in Europe, Higuain had a monster season with Sarri broke a record that was standing still for decades, Ghoulam top left back, Koulibaly one of Europe's most wanted defenders, Jorginho the perfect deep lying midfielder, Hamsik basically a perfect midfielder for 4-3-3 and I can go on and on and on. 

There is nobody to blame at the moment it is simply the fact players are bang average simply not good enough. Worst set of full backs, boring wingers and absolutely no threat from midfield. 

You watch City - the wingers provide width and the two central midfielders go close to the striker. Klopp uses his wingers close to Firmino while the full backs bomb forward. Sarri's wingers do nothing, no runs in behind, nothing, and the full backs are shite, Azpilicueta would not overlap to save his life and the two midfielders in front of Jorginho basically do nothing, they don't asisst, don't score, they are of ni threat for the opposition. 

This is going nowhere if Sarri has to work with duds that clearly fancy Mourinho/Simeone type of tactics or they are not good enough. 

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

This is why I’m saying we should give Sarri time at the beginning of the season. The situation like this will come sooner or later. Higuain along with Fabregas replacement is coming and we will be better.

Top 4 is the priority, and last time I check we are still 4th and still in 4 competitions. So give him the players he wants and let’s see where we are at the end of season.

Also Sarri is the ideal manager from our boards perspective, so unless he failed to achieve all the targets after getting the players he demands, seems we will stick with him for some time.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Finish 5th be gone. Finish 4th..invest but results still poor be gone halfway.  There needs to be a plan b. 

Yesterday was just dire. Not sure what the aim was or the game plan or if there even was one. 

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

5 minutes ago, RoyalBlues said:

This is why I’m saying we should give Sarri time at the beginning of the season. The situation like this will come sooner or later. Higuain along with Fabregas replacement is coming and we will be better.

Top 4 is the priority, and last time I check we are still 4th and still in 4 competitions. So give him the players he wants and let’s see where we are at the end of season.

Also Sarri is the ideal manager from our boards perspective, so unless he failed to achieve all the targets after getting the players he demands, seems we will stick with him for some time.

Agree mate and I honestly believe that worse than the current state of this club is the fans' levels of expectations. Apart from a few players that you can count on one hand the others are Europa League stuff and no league title material. The cruel reality but it is the truth. 

Klopp had Clyne, Moreno, Lovren, Milner at left back, Emre Can, Lucas Leiva, Origi,Lallana,Alberto Moreno. Got rid of them all from the starting line up and improved on them. Guardiola the same, improved on the likes of Clichy, Kolarov, Sagna, Toure, Zabaleta etc.

It's a process and it needs time, Sarri only got one outfield player to fit his tactics (Jorginho) and a loanie that personally I don't see why Chelsea would buy. Others are from the Mourinho and Conte times and I don't think they can be polished anymore, there are big levels of complacency in this squad, the club simply needs to let go of a lot of them and bring new blood in. 

[Hamilton 2,120]

9 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Agree mate and I honestly believe that worse than the current state of this club is the fans' levels of expectations. Apart from a few players that you can count on one hand the others are Europa League stuff and no league title material. The cruel reality but it is the truth. 

Klopp had Clyne, Moreno, Lovren, Milner at left back, Emre Can, Lucas Leiva, Origi,Lallana,Alberto Moreno. Got rid of them all from the starting line up and improved on them. Guardiola the same, improved on the likes of Clichy, Kolarov, Sagna, Toure, Zabaleta etc.

It's a process and it needs time, Sarri only got one outfield player to fit his tactics (Jorginho) and a loanie that personally I don't see why Chelsea would buy. Others are from the Mourinho and Conte times and I don't think they can be polished anymore, there are big levels of complacency in this squad, the club simply needs to let go of a lot of them and bring new blood in. 

So if the transferban kicks in (if that story is true) we have a very big problem..

[Vesper 30,172]

19 minutes ago, Hamilton said:

So if the transferban kicks in (if that story is true) we have a very big problem..

It would start in next January, supposedly.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7747320/chelseas-transfer-ban-icardi-kovacic-sandro/

[Antonio8 736]

sarri has to change something untill higuain come

4312 with hazard behind giroud and pedro

 

 

 

[Vesper 30,172]

Just now, Antonio8 said:

sarri has to change something untill higuain come

4312 with hazard behind giroud and pedro

 

 

 

he wont do it, I would be gobsmacked if he switched formations atm

[Laylabelle 9,534]

20 minutes ago, Vesper said:

It would start in next January, supposedly.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7747320/chelseas-transfer-ban-icardi-kovacic-sandro/

What a load of crap. We had this before didn't we with Kaku? Kakta? Whatever his name was. Hopefully common sense will happen.. Or no one has been so stupid! 

[Kajo 176]

It would start in next January, supposedly.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7747320/chelseas-transfer-ban-icardi-kovacic-sandro/

The Sun? Really?

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[Vesper 30,172]

Just now, Kajo said:

The Sun? Really?

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
 

there are other articles

Google is your friend 

[Laylabelle 9,534]

I just hope he can bring in who he needs and we can start playing this attacking football we were meant to. Not this crap. 

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said:

There is nobody to blame at the moment it is simply the fact players are bang average simply not good enough. Worst set of full backs, boring wingers and absolutely no threat from midfield. 

You watch City - the wingers provide width and the two central midfielders go close to the striker. Klopp uses his wingers close to Firmino while the full backs bomb forward. Sarri's wingers do nothing, no runs in behind, nothing, and the full backs are shite, Azpilicueta would not overlap to save his life and the two midfielders in front of Jorginho basically do nothing, they don't asisst, don't score, they are of ni threat for the opposition. 

This is going nowhere if Sarri has to work with duds that clearly fancy Mourinho/Simeone type of tactics or they are not good enough. 

The squad may be average but on the other hand you gotta ask, is Sarri getting his message across properly to the players? You would think that after 6-7 months at the helm, we would at least, at the very least, see some glimpses of the so called Sarriball but we haven't seen it. We have been seeing the same dull, turgid, clueless football week in week out. Nothing has really changed and Sarri is the one responsible of forming the team, making the players play the way he wants. You can blame the players for not being good enough but Sarri should be held accountable as well because he chooses the players, he selects the team and let's not forget, he's been making things worse by playing Hazard out of position and not getting anything out of it.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

Look at clips of Napoli under Sarri and then look at clips from our recent games. Several things are currently still lacking in this Sarri Chelsea such as runs in behind from the player in the Hamsik role (Barkley and particularly Kovacic play far too defensive), technically capable right back, a striker that scores goals, quality left back and in-form Jorginho. Most importantly, the tempo you seen in Napoli games is galaxies apart from what you seen in our games. With the proper tempo and intensity also lacks runs from third players that would allow more direct and quicker transitions from central midfield to attacking third. Why are still playing so slow football? You'd think the players would have already learned each others' positions by heart and could therefore also play quicker one-touch football. Players like Kante, Azpilicueta, Willian, Kovacic, Barkley and Alonso never play one-touch passing and instead always hog the ball for a while and turn promising attacks in to nothing. Neither does Jorginho though at the moment, which is weird considering that's his biggest asset. He only does one touch pass when passing sideways or backwards and avoids those quick vertical passes he got famous for at Napoli.

Higuain will undoubtedly give some much needed confidence and could potentially save our season and secure finish in the top4. However, it's clear that changes have to be made and several new players have to be bought both this window and particularly during the summer. Sarriball is still far away from reality and will remain so as long as these current players keep playing. Back-up to Jorginho (who has been playing far too many games this season and without proper competition), another playmaking and free-scoring CM/CAM like Coutinho/James, RB and LB need to bought as soon as possible. Perhaps some players of the loan army or youth academy (Aina/Baba/Reece James, Mount etc.) could fill some of those positions?

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

30 minutes ago, !Hazard! said:

Look at clips of Napoli under Sarri and then look at clips from our recent games. Several things are currently still lacking in this Sarri Chelsea such as runs in behind from the player in the Hamsik role (Barkley and particularly Kovacic play far too defensive), technically capable right back, a striker that scores goals, quality left back and in-form Jorginho. Most importantly, the tempo you seen in Napoli games is galaxies apart from what you seen in our games. With the proper tempo and intensity also lacks runs from third players that would allow more direct and quicker transitions from central midfield to attacking third. Why are still playing so slow football? You'd think the players would have already learned each others' positions by heart and could therefore also play quicker one-touch football. Players like Kante, Azpilicueta, Willian, Kovacic, Barkley and Alonso never play one-touch passing and instead always hog the ball for a while and turn promising attacks in to nothing. Neither does Jorginho though at the moment, which is weird considering that's his biggest asset. He only does one touch pass when passing sideways or backwards and avoids those quick vertical passes he got famous for at Napoli.

Higuain will undoubtedly give some much needed confidence and could potentially save our season and secure finish in the top4. However, it's clear that changes have to be made and several new players have to be bought both this window and particularly during the summer. Sarriball is still far away from reality and will remain so as long as these current players keep playing. Back-up to Jorginho (who has been playing far too many games this season and without proper competition), another playmaking and free-scoring CM/CAM like Coutinho/James, RB and LB need to bought as soon as possible. Perhaps some players of the loan army or youth academy (Aina/Baba/Reece James, Mount etc.) could fill some of those positions?

We were never going to be anything close to that this season. It took Sarri 2 pre seasons and a full season of Serie A to get Napoli to a good level. People expect him to work miracles, as if hes jesus himself and can turn water into wine. Lack of rotation has killed our momentum but it is also key to building patterns and relationships on the pitch which is needed to execute "Sarriball".

[Vesper 30,172]

Gary Neville surprised at Chelsea player power after Maurizio Sarri outburst

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/29326/11613188/gary-neville-surprised-at-chelsea-player-power-after-maurizio-sarri-outburst

 

Gary Neville accused Chelsea's players of "turning it on and off like a tap" after Maurizio Sarri's criticism of his squad, and revealed more about the level of player power at Stamford Bridge.

Sarri fumed at his side after they floundered to a 2-0 defeat at Arsenal on Saturday, their fifth loss in their last 12 games, and accused them of being difficult to motivate during an explosive rant translated from his native Italian.

Neville said the number of previous Chelsea managers who had revealed problems in the Stamford Bridge dressing room was too much to ignore - but added Sarri may not be around long enough to fully address the problem.

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[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

I'm kind of curious as to how long people thought it was going to take to get this team playing in the image that Sarri wants.  I get the impression from reading many of the posts that a lot of people think that what we are doing now is what "Sarri-ball" was supposed to be or what he would like to see.  It's got elements, but it terms of movement and speed, it's nothing close.  People don't really think that what we are seeing now is the type of football that has Sacchi calling up Pep asking him if he's seen this?  It's currently boring and sideways and toothless.  No one besides Pedro seems interested in making a forward run.  Willian, Hazard, Kovacic, all want to come deep and receive the ball to their feet.  This team is dribbling through midfield far more often than Napoli did.  That's not how "Sarri-ball" is supposed to move the ball vertically.   For anyone who thinks it's boring and slow right now (I agree), I think Sarri would agree with you too and it's not what he wants either.

Now, I'm open to the possibility that it will never work here, sometimes things just don't work.  I'm just a little surprised that people are so willing to abandon it after 6 months.

[Vesper 30,172]

27 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I'm kind of curious as to how long people thought it was going to take to get this team playing in the image that Sarri wants.  I get the impression from reading many of the posts that a lot of people think that what we are doing now is what "Sarri-ball" was supposed to be or what he would like to see.  It's got elements, but it terms of movement and speed, it's nothing close.  People don't really think that what we are seeing now is the type of football that has Sacchi calling up Pep asking him if he's seen this?  It's currently boring and sideways and toothless.  No one besides Pedro seems interested in making a forward run.  Willian, Hazard, Kovacic, all want to come deep and receive the ball to their feet.  This team is dribbling through midfield far more often than Napoli did.  That's not how "Sarri-ball" is supposed to move the ball vertically.   For anyone who thinks it's boring and slow right now (I agree), I think Sarri would agree with you too and it's not what he wants either.

Now, I'm open to the possibility that it will never work here, sometimes things just don't work.  I'm just a little surprised that people are so willing to abandon it after 6 months.

I think many are losing their patience based off the shit board not backing him.

We have, overall, turgid players.

exceptions

Kepa

Rudiger (a good 2nd CB, but not truly WC)

Luiz ( a specialist at long ball but zero chance a rock you can win titles and CL's off of)

Kante (criminally misused)

Hazard

all the rest (yes, Jorginho fanboys, I am tossing him into the meh pit, along with 2019 version of Azpi)

are simply not up quality needed or are shit indeed

CHO (leaving anyway probably) and Ampadu are too young to judge

if Higs shits out, we are well and truly fucked, and it will get worse if/when Hazard leaves

I trust the board ZERO to sort it

 

[Jase 43,479]