Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

[manpe 10,861]

17 minutes ago, Antonio8 said:

I completely agree. 

besides this, for years fans were asking for someone with attacking mentality, now there is one coach with offensive mentality 

that he is trying to begin a difficult process of changing and he is criticized because of the results (the truth is this)  

people believe that you can switch from a defensive football to an offensive football in 6 months, with the same players that last year 

played counter-attack football. 

need patience here, and to be united, the fans, the players, the coach, the board, to go beyond their limits and improving year after year 

 

I get what you're saying, this is something I'd been saying until recently and in general it is true. But you just have to look at what Sarri is and isn't doing and it becomes clear that he doesn't have what it takes to lead us to success. You have a winger (CHO) and a striker (Giroud) on the bench, yet he brings on a defender for a defender in a competition you're about to crash out from, nothing to lose anymore - all to win. Defender for a defender, fuck's sake.  It's not an isolated case either, his game management has been shit all season when things get tough, but that one just took the cake. Predictability? The easiest manager to plan against, you know every single time how and who he will play and what his subs will be. Defeatist comments in pressers? I'd rather take "suffering" than somebody who flat out admits he's got no idea.

If he showed some reactions and some signs that he knows what he's doing and changing things up while maintaining his core philosophy and improving the team (the infamous Pep and Klopp comparisons, but they at least tried different things until they got where they wanted)... but it's not been like that! No reaction, no nothing. Aurelio De Laurentiis had a point about him.

[Fernando 6,454]

17 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

Zappacosta for Azpilicueta was arguably the worst sub you'll see this season.  Inexcusable. Infact, it was baffling. 

 

We will win tonight quite comfortably youd imagine, but it's Malmo.  Even Blackpool would give them a game. (mind you, we'd have lost last week if it were a decent outfit)  I have never approached a final with such dread. I'd love to see this sarriball in action, at its best.

 

But i also want the club to appoint a manager with some nous and understanding how to change a football match and improve your chances of winning

Carlo used to do that. It's something the Italians see that we don't. 

[Antonio8 736]

35 minutes ago, manpe said:

I get what you're saying, this is something I'd been saying until recently and in general it is true. But you just have to look at what Sarri is and isn't doing and it becomes clear that he doesn't have what it takes to lead us to success. You have a winger (CHO) and a striker (Giroud) on the bench, yet he brings on a defender for a defender in a competition you're about to crash out from, nothing to lose anymore - all to win. Defender for a defender, fuck's sake.  It's not an isolated case either, his game management has been shit all season when things get tough, but that one just took the cake. Predictability? The easiest manager to plan against, you know every single time how and who he will play and what his subs will be. Defeatist comments in pressers? I'd rather take "suffering" than somebody who flat out admits he's got no idea.

If he showed some reactions and some signs that he knows what he's doing and changing things up while maintaining his core philosophy and improving the team (the infamous Pep and Klopp comparisons, but they at least tried different things until they got where they wanted)... but it's not been like that! No reaction, no nothing. Aurelio De Laurentiis had a point about him.

1) the sub question:  also in napoli he made the same sub, always the same at the same minute,  so if the board take him, the board must know this 

2) predictability: his game becomes predictable because some players don't respect his indications: it's from september that he talks about movements without the ball, but hazard, willian, kovacic are just not good in that. If in a possession football, players don't go without the ball the entire system doesn't work (see how city plays, with sane and sterling) 

3)defeatist comments in pressers: like point 1. the same was in napoli experience 

4) I think that he will change something if the board gives him some time 

[manpe 10,861]

4 minutes ago, Antonio8 said:

1) the sub question:  also in napoli he made the same sub, always the same at the same minute,  so if you (the board) take him, you (the board) must know this 

2) predictability: his game becomes predictable because some players don't respect his indications: it's from september that he talks about movements without the ball, but hazard, willian, kovacic are just not good in that. If in a possession football, players don't go without the ball the entire system doesn't work (see how city plays, with sane and sterling) 

3)defeatist comments in pressers: like point 1. the same was in napoli experience 

4) I think that he will change something if the board gives him some time 

I don't care what he did in Napoli and our board has proven to be clueless time and time again. I now see the reality of who he is and I don't like it. I knew he got Napoli playing some delicious stuff, but had no idea he was so stubborn... I also can't see such a one-dimensional manager winning anything meaningful. It's all tease and no cumshot with him.

[Antonio8 736]

14 minutes ago, manpe said:

I don't care what he did in Napoli and our board has proven to be clueless time and time again. I now see the reality of who he is and I don't like it. I knew he got Napoli playing some delicious stuff, but had no idea he was so stubborn... I also can't see such a one-dimensional manager winning anything meaningful. It's all tease and no cumshot with him.

you don't care but it is important. the board can't buy apples and then complain because they are not bananas 

[manpe 10,861]

you don't care but it is important. you (the board) can't buy apples and then complain because they are not bananas 

I don't know why you're equaling me to the board. I'm not talking on their behalf.

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[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

3 hours ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

the subs are inexcusable.  Who else do we have to bring on? There is options, he just needs to be flexible.  Its really not rocket science, he is too stubborn

 

Any other manager, would come in and make use of the squad and vary the subs.  Because they adjust. Any top top manager adjusts, and adapts.  It's nothing admirable on Sarri's part, its foolishness

Sarri was brought in to make us adjust to his style. Not the other way round 

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

17 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Don't feel i am missing the point here, just pointing out something that is key factor and that leads to a misleading statistics.

There is no doubt Pep struggled in his first year. But ultimately the difference between that and his current side is quarter of billion pound investment. 

This team is spiraling out of control, and Sarri is doing nothing to change that. There is mountain of difference between pep and Sarri, Pep is an attacking coach while Sarri is a systematic coach. One attempted various formations and lineup, while the other is fixated on the same thing game after game. Embarrassing displays after another. 

You also have to take into account the budget both managers are given 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

17 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

Sarri was brought in to make us adjust to his style. Not the other way round 

and its not working with what he has at his disposal, so he now needs to adjust to make it work.

 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

Sarri and Pep comparison is just wrong

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

Just now, ChelseaFanUK said:

and its not working with what he has at his disposal, so he now needs to adjust to make it work.

 

No we need to back him in every way possible And he needs to stay as he is so when players do come in the entire system and training program is already in place.

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

2 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

and its not working with what he has at his disposal, so he now needs to adjust to make it work.

 

Am not trying to defend or argue with any one on this but sarri  hasnt and won't change, the board have to accept it or sack him its that simple

[zekinjo 449]

4 hours ago, Antonio8 said:

1) the sub question:  also in napoli he made the same sub, always the same at the same minute,  so if the board take him, the board must know this 

2) predictability: his game becomes predictable because some players don't respect his indications: it's from september that he talks about movements without the ball, but hazard, willian, kovacic are just not good in that. If in a possession football, players don't go without the ball the entire system doesn't work (see how city plays, with sane and sterling) 

3)defeatist comments in pressers: like point 1. the same was in napoli experience 

4) I think that he will change something if the board gives him some time 

Absolutely agree with everything you’ve said. The “2)” should be highlighted as the main reason for everything’s going on right now. Most of them abandoned his style since like October. THIS IS AND ALWAYS WAS THE PROBLEM. The players! They have left Sarri alone for months now and I agree with a folks here on he’s not helping himself with some decisions and I’m not talking about switching to another system or formation.

I’ve been watching Napoli more or less on regular basis because of him since 2017 and I’ve liked everything I’ve seen there. I’ve been thinking millions of times how I would like to see Hazard and Willian to both moves like Insigne, Mertens and Callejon or to have their instinct for a right movement at the right time but at same time I had more doubts then actually been convinced in my head that they will ever be that good/useful like Napoli duo under Sarri. I won’t even touch other areas.

Maybe some players wasn’t happy with their playing time here and others wasn’t the best students but it’s how it is, man up. If you earn millions per year and you can’t respect the way your coach wants you to play and it’s an attacking football ffs, then I piss on your professionalism as professional football player and on every single one of these players. They should all dishwash in some restaurant, because for me, not respecting the boss is like not respecting the club!

I would only add that the board and the fans COULD give Sarri all the time in the world he would never turn things around with this players UNLESS Chelsea sign some proper players for his system in the future. He’s the coach who can ONLY operate if he has the right players for every single position on the field because his system is same like Pep’s but doesn’t necessarily means he needs the very top players just the right characteristics from every single one of them. They are modern managers and they play football with all 11 players as everyone is VERY important or they struggle. Simple as.

Absolutely no point having Sarri here if he’s going to use this particular squad (without RLC who’s always injured now and CHO who’s probably gone) long term. It’s a waste of everyone’s time. And Roman knew this perfectly good but still fought hard to get him. What he couldn’t expect, logically, is how the hell this escalated on this level that groups of fans will be singing “fuck sarriball” at SB. This was the lowest moment for me. These are the worst. Were all glorifying that moment when Roman brought Sarri in and now, 6 months later, they’re saying he’s clueless because he has to play week in and week out fucking Alonso, Azpi, Luiz, Rudi, Willian, Morata at the time, Pedro, Zappa etc... Just look at these, if they are a car industry they would all be OPEL.

 Sarri only did one thing terribly wrong this season and this is not giving more playing time to CHO. RLC was injured for months now, nothing he can do. Yes, Emerson should play more but he’s suspicious if you ask me. Maybe Sarri choose the lesser evil on that LB position. Who could really tell. 

[Henrique 9,133]

wrong topic.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

Well needed win. Some glimpses at times of what his style can bring but a long way to go and we have 2 huge games coming up.