closed Man Utd 2-1 Chelsea

[LeonDavis23 371]

Everyone is annoyed but there is no surprise with this result, the top 4 are miles above us in terms of class and ability.

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

From champions comfortably to a finish outside the top 4 the next season. Again.

This game was lost for a number of reasons. Hazard and Willian were dead on their feet after a brilliant first half from each of them. Kante and DD were solid in the first half but Matic singlehandedly dominated the entire midfield in the second half. And finall, and most infuriatingly, Morata was completely useless once more. He looks a completely different player than he did when he was scoring for fun. If an opponent is physical with him he wilts like a dying flower.

Thi is the worst I've felt about Chelsea in a while. A club like United can easily afford and deal with a season outside of the top 4 because they can buy themselves out of everything. It's going to be disastrous for us. Losing our best players and having to buy quality in a World Cup summer. We may actually pull a Liverpool and be on the outside looking in for a while. Depressing.

I think it is gonna happen and maybe that is just what we need. This generation is dead even though it is not old yet but it does not have the character or the durability of our former core. The squad and this club needs a major rebuild. Our prowess in the transfer window has obviously been crippled by incapable personnel and the prioritzation of the new stadium, so the rebuild will have to wait until that is over.

[Mathewe 65]

About the most frustrating game of football I've seen this season. We contrive to lose to a genuinely shite Man Utd team, because after half time we chose to literally do nothing and hope for a draw. Fucking hell.I love Conte but he got that one wrong in a big way.

[manpe 10,861]

Just now, Thor said:

They paused it the moment it was hit... That is what the picture shows. He is on... 

If that is the moment it was hit, then it looks 100% offside to me. Consider the angle of the camera, take the line of the box as a reference point. Morata's left foot and maybe head look comfortably offside. On video replay it also looked offside.

[Milan 17,853]

Thursday nights next season. See you there.

[Jase 43,479]

That was shit and predictable. The players turned up for the midweek Champions League match but then went back to bottling a Premier League game. Could be 5 points behind 4th by the time we kick off at Man City next Sunday, which looks very likely with Liverpool and Spurs facing Newcastle and Huddersfield at home respectively. Bossed United in that first half but never pressed home the advantage and let them back in through stupid mistakes. And what about Conte? Mourinho tweaked things at HT and Conte didn't. Was proactive even trying to change things when it was clear we weren't dominant anymore. Only reacted after going down, as always.

[Milan 17,853]

It took some effort to lose to Man United today. It looked like they were happy with a draw. But taking off Hazard served us fucking right.

[Fulham Broadway 16,846]

They were there for the taking today, fucking pub team Utd

[manpe 10,861]

3 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Taking off Hazard was laughable.

 

4 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

 

Goes down like a feather- other weaknesses -Alonso half off the pace, taking Hazard off -when Willians stamina was obviously fucked by 75th minute. Mourinhos note to Matic to go down in the 90th minute didn't help either

Blaming taking off Hazard is an easy cop out, he was shit but Pedro wasn't any better.

[Milan 17,853]

And don't forget - Man City away next weekend!

Today was the D-Day for me. We lost it completely and I made peace with finishing outside the CL spots. Sadly.

[Alabama 1,992]

Dear conte please drop this 343 formation for now....try 433 or something else...we dont have quality wing backs that is why we rely too much on willian hazard for something upfront... 

[Fulham Broadway 16,846]

2 minutes ago, manpe said:

he was shit but Pedro wasn't any better.

Giroud was 

[Special Juan 27,428]

2 minutes ago, manpe said:

 

Blaming taking off Hazard is an easy cop out, he was shit but Pedro wasn't any better.

It was the wrong choice, plain and simple. Morata survived the whole fucking game, he was absolute dog shit.

But that's Conte again, another wrong choice.

[Pizy 18,368]

What's all the more crushing about this situation is that we were comfortably above Liverpool and Spuds not long ago and right on the heels of United. I seriously almost discounted Spuds because they were so far behind us and looking average. Now all 3 of those sides will be out of sight by the end of the next matchweek.

 

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

2 minutes ago, manpe said:

 

Blaming taking off Hazard is an easy cop out, he was shit but Pedro wasn't any better.

Yeah 100% agree, pity because I hoped Pedro's willingness to run in behind and try stretch United would of helped us big time but it never came. Willian looked pretty knackered near the end but was always more likely to conjure something up out of any of our attackers. Cesc should have played from the start today I think, first half he would of had all the space in the world and then hes a different element all together, United and in particular Matic, Pogba and McTominay got really involved in the second half, started picking up a lot of second balls, getting in the faces of our MF. Bakayoko for Matic has to be the worst replacement we've done in years. 

[Laylabelle 9,351]

3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

What's all the more crushing about this situation is that we were comfortably above Liverpool and Spuds not long ago and right on the heels of United. I seriously almost discounted Spuds because they were so far behind us and looking average. Now all 3 of those sides will be out of sight by the end of the next matchweek.

 

That's what's so annoying. So many times we couldve been 2nd...now in a matter or weeks we're sodding 5th 6 behind 2nd. Both teams have just leap fogged us. Spurs just appeared and I hope we don't slide below Arsenal cause that would take the piss

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

Just now, LeonDavis23 said:

Everyone is annoyed but there is no surprise with this result, the top 4 are miles above us in terms of class and ability.

No they are not. Only City is Utd is just as shit as we are, but they are the bigger brand and have more of a winning mentality. that is why they won today. we dominated them at the bridge and should have won by double digits. an today we should have gone into halftime 1 or 2 goals up. but we are unable to take our chances and falter under pressure. Commit suicidal errors in defense without being forced to. that is why we are where we are. the team is inc omplete disarray. Conte and most major players are elsewhere with their heads. Load this with a bunch of average passenger squad players and we got the situation we are in here. This problem has many dimensions. The wrong manager for the phase this squad is in. A board that is clueless in the transfer window and values economic success over footballing success. This big ass stadium rebuild project. An increasingly disinterested owner. A squad that lacks both genuine quality both in depth and in peak, barely working as a cohesive union because of the gaps in quality over the formation.

[Stats 7,055]

You just saw it coming. So disappointing after such a bright start. Drinkwater, surprisingly imo was our best player today. I am fuming at Conte for doing this again. Hazard was not great but you just don't take off your best player at that minute. Ridiculous. They scored shortly after he came off and who is their to inspire magic? No one! Such a poor decision. He still was dangerous and a player Mourinho must of been smiling secretly in delight when he saw him come off.

As good as the defence are, my worry sometimes is that none of them are physical powerhouses and very commanding. Rudiger to some extent. Not a major problem but just concerned how easily Lukaku was able to easily shrug off our defenders throughout the match.

That loss is really a blow. I don't see us getting anything at City. Best a draw and considering Liverpool have Newcastle at home and Spurs have Huddersfield at Wembley, you imagine them pulling even further away. Not impossible to get top 4 but a huge ask. Those losses against relegation fighting teams looks like it will prove pivotal right now. Games like Bournemouth, Burnley, West Ham, Watford, we just can't afford to be losing all those games. Just ridiculous when you think about it. They are hugely costing us.

The only hope that makes me think we may get something out of City is that they go to Emirates on Thursday and then have a game three days after against us. Hopefully fatigue kicks in but even then still don't have much hopes of getting anything there.