Callum Hudson-Odoi

[MoroccanBlue 5,311]

17 minutes ago, Pizy said:

And we gave him such a huge contract that we’re stuck with him.

Always seems to be the case with us…

[Tomo 21,733]

24 minutes ago, Pizy said:

He’s bang average. A midtable level player. Offers basically no end product and switches off too often in his defensive duties.

And we gave him such a huge contract that we’re stuck with him.

His finishing is awful I can't defend him on that. Creative wise he's better than given credit for in my opinion, even THAT moment vs Brighton was neatly finding his way to Mount without an illegal interception.

On a slightly related note remember when most of us were desperate to bring in his pal Sancho? Thankgod that didn't happen.

[Pizy 18,371]

14 minutes ago, Tomo said:

His finishing is awful I can't defend him on that. Creative wise he's better than given credit for in my opinion, even THAT moment vs Brighton was neatly finding his way to Mount without an illegal interception.

On a slightly related note remember when most of us were desperate to bring in his pal Sancho? Thankgod that didn't happen.

At least Sancho has shown levels CHO can only dream of for multiple seasons in Germany. He’ll come good once they get a proper manager and an actual system/vision in place. 
 

I can’t see Cal becoming anything more than an okay squad player for us. Someone who rotates in for cups and injuries.

[Jase 43,479]

7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

He’ll come good once they get a proper manager and an actual system/vision in place. 

That could still happen but United fans have really been hammering Sancho and I mean HAMMERING Sancho, probably even more than we do with our players. 

[Tomo 21,733]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

At least Sancho has shown levels CHO can only dream of for multiple seasons in Germany. He’ll come good once they get a proper manager and an actual system/vision in place. 
 

I can’t see Cal becoming anything more than an okay squad player for us. Someone who rotates in for cups and injuries.

Cliche but I'll rather wait until he's had a proper run in the team before declaring that. I'd understand him not getting one if the other attackers are producing but despite everything he's still looked better than Pulisic with fewer chances.

The closest he's had to one is this Autumn and (finishing aside) he was excellent and unless you count the wingbacks as such our best attacker during our best run of form performance wise for quite a while.

[Tomo 21,733]

1 hour ago, Jase said:

That could still happen but United fans have really been hammering Sancho and I mean HAMMERING Sancho, probably even more than we do with our players. 

In hindsight Sancho should have done the Dortmund/Bayern route.

I don't understand why English players don't want to settle abroad long term, now you could maybe say money but it was the same in the 90s when Serie A ruled.

If I was a player unless playing for Chelsea was possible I'd 100% prefer playing in Spain/southern Italy.

[Pizy 18,371]

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

Cliche but I'll rather wait until he's had a proper run in the team before declaring that. I'd understand him not getting one if the other attackers are producing but despite everything he's still looked better than Pulisic with fewer chances.

The closest he's had to one is this Autumn and (finishing aside) he was excellent and unless you count the wingbacks as such our best attacker during our best run of form performance wise for quite a while.

His problem for sure is consistency. A problem that sadly all of our attackers have. But even at his best level in his best form I don’t think he offers enough at a club with title ambitions to be in the best XI. Almost never scores goals and is infuriatingly frustrating with his decision making  in the final third.

Like, for those wide positions I don’t think Cal’s best form is close to Pulisic’s or even Timo’s. Both of the latter can score and assist. As I mentioned in the match day thread the other day against Brighton, CHO is basically a poor imitation of Willian. Doesn’t score, doesn’t assist, runs around a lot, frustrates the hell out of us when he’s in the final third. But what Willian had that CHO doesn’t is the ability to consistently beat players 1v1 and drive into dangerous areas. 

 

[NikkiCFC 7,966]

5 hours ago, Jase said:

Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this stat but CHO has scored only 4 goals (FOUR!) in 71 Premier League games. 

But majority from the bench tho. He played minutes equal to 35 games. Still bad.

He's more of a creator.  10 open play PL assists in 3202 minutes.

Mount for example has 6 in 7112 minutes.

Edited January 21, 2022 by NikkiCFC

[Tomo 21,733]

I know he has to do it more consistently but today shows exactly why I am on his 'train' so to speak.

Ziyech's goal will get headlines but it was his quality that created the situation.

Edited January 23, 2022 by Tomo

[Beigl 1,387]

I agree with Tomo. We should not give up on him, even tough he is very frustrating to watch sometimes. There is certainly a player in him. 

[Magic Lamps 11,655]

He still has age and time on his side but it was apparent he needed to be told to take on a slower fullback tonight. With his experience he should know that himself 

just needs to get his confidence up. We need 1vs1 players and him to realize he is one 

[NikkiCFC 7,966]

 

[robsblubot 3,508]

Grealish lol
Pretty much interchangeable with any other player City already had in the final third.

Odoi's best season by far tho -- finally showing something we've expected from him.

Edited January 31, 2022 by robsblubot

[MoroccanBlue 5,311]

Hard to really believe those metrics considering he constantly fails the eye test. Frustrating and one dimensional 80% of the time. 

[robsblubot 3,508]

reminder he's 21 😉 

[LAM09 6,755]

1 minute ago, robsblubot said:

reminder he's 21 😉 

Similar tune was sung where RLC was concerned. What happened there?

[robsblubot 3,508]

1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

Similar tune was sung where RLC was concerned. What happened there?

I think 21-24 is the time footballers define how good they will be.

Seen players who looked like little Maradonas at 20 who turned into nothing, and players who were nothing at 20 and turned into excellent footballers.

My point is to not be so quick in affirming what a player will be at such an early stage. Scouts make a lot of money out of it and still get it wrong fairly often. We could get rid of him and then he pulls a Salah elsewhere.

[LAM09 6,755]

2 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

I think 21-24 is the time footballers define how good they will be.

Seen players who looked like little Maradonas at 20 who turned into nothing, and players who were nothing at 20 and turned into excellent footballers.

My point is to not be so quick in affirming what a player will be at such an early stage. Scouts make a lot of money out of it and still get it wrong fairly often. We could get rid of him and then he pulls a Salah elsewhere.

That's what buy-back clauses are for. Salah might have been raw, but he showed what he could do against us at the highest level at the same age.

CHO has been living off potential for some time, which even resulted in the club giving him a bumper contract. If he is still here come September, he has to drastically improve his end product should he have any desire to flourish at the top level.