MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 He just came off an extremely serious injury that 15 years ago could have ended a player's career. I'm going to reserve judgement. Same with Ruben when he returns. We have to take it slow with both of them. We all know they are very talented players nyikolajevics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Yeah I think CHO might need until the second half of this season to get into around 80% of the old CHO again. Then next season we can hopefully see him blow into a great player. Ruben will probably need the next pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Thats hardly an excuse he played right wing almost every game he played under Sarri. Hes just maybe not done as well as he did last season but even then Pulisic and Willian are playing well so thats another reason why he isnt featuring from the beginning and rightfully so. Where as last season the wingers didnt play so well which is why people were desperate to see him start every week. Other than his Europa League performances in the PL last season he didnt exactly set the world alight either. He did not play that well as a right winger there either. He had a top pre season with a good game against Man City and then he had some good performances in EL. In PL, he was average when he played as a right winger. He is a very one dimensional Player as a right winger because he can't use his dribbling style he likes.Pulisic had one good game against Ajax as a sub and then his goal show in PL. Against United, he was horrible and he did not get any criticism for that.Willian for me is bang average. When he does not score, he offers only his defensive work rate. Today, he was useless in the offensive point of view. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted November 2, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Pulisic had one good game against Ajax as a sub and then his goal show in PL. Against United, he was horrible and he did not get any criticism for that. It's peculiar that people don't mention Newcastle. Pulisic came on against Newcastle and Ajax and helped us win both games. Was rewarded with the starts and he has duly scored the goals. We want players to make an impact whenever they play, no? Lampard set the challenge to the players and Pulisic has responded with 4 goals and 2 assists along with decent showings in the last few games. This is now like the reversal of the situation in September. Pulisic wasn't doing much then - even when he was given a chance to do so against Grimsby - and got panned by some here while CHO was making an impact and ahead of him in the pecking order. But now Pulisic is ahead of CHO after stepping up recently and it's up to the latter to rise up to the challenge really. OneMoSalah, Vybz Kartel, Tomo and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted November 2, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted November 2, 2019 Obviously not as good as he thinks he is. Reminds me of the same attitude Sturridge had. Going forward; - it's better to be over confident than under, he's only just back from injury, and only 18 ! Just hope he doesn't get all Berty Big Bollox again, and chuck his toys out the pram if he's sidelined to prove his place DDA, Bosnian Blue, Johnnyeye and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 It's peculiar that people don't mention Newcastle. Pulisic came on against Newcastle and Ajax and helped us win both games. Was rewarded with the starts and he has duly scored the goals. We want players to make an impact whenever they play, no? Lampard set the challenge to the players and Pulisic has responded with 4 goals and 2 assists along with decent showings in the last few games. This is now like the reversal of the situation in September. Pulisic wasn't doing much then - even when he was given a chance to do so against Grimsby - and got panned by some here while CHO was making an impact and ahead of him in the pecking order. But now Pulisic is ahead of CHO after stepping up recently and it's up to the latter to rise up to the challenge really. There certainly seems to be an agenda with the following person where youth players are concerned.Surely the majority of members here want those that are best suited for the job above all else. Every academy player isn't going to cut it & some need to realise quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! 1905didierblue 748 Posted November 3, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted November 3, 2019 18 hours ago, killer1257 said: My point was that nobody rated RLC before last seasons performances. There was a lot of critisicm and I was one of the few that defended him because he never had a chance to play his best position. Only Sarri gave him a Chance as a no. 8, which was his best position at youth level. RLC was always judged on performances, in which he played in other positions. CHO also has that Problem when he is judged on right winger performances. I know him from his Youth days and I can tell you that he will never be a good right winger. He can be a very good left winger or second striker though. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Exactly this. All it takes is a couple of games for these "fans" to label a player as "not good enough". Before last season RLC was not "good enough". 2 games into the season, Tammy was not just good enough, he was a championship level striker. Now it's CHO. The same people who want a change of identity of a young, energetic team, don't have a dime worth of patience to even afford them a month's time. No probkem though, in the end, it's the same people who come out looking like idiots. killer1257, DDA, Johnnyeye and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Wow just a couple weeks ago people think that Cho is better than Hazard, now he is not as good as Puli. Or he is just a young player who clearly has massive potential, that has just recovered from massive injury. So he will be a bit inconsistent and he is not even close to Hazard yet. Vesper and 1905didierblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 10:44 PM, Fulham Broadway said: Obviously not as good as he thinks he is. Reminds me of the same attitude Sturridge had. Going forward; - it's better to be over confident than under, he's only just back from injury, and only 18 ! Just hope he doesn't get all Berty Big Bollox again, and chuck his toys out the pram if he's sidelined to prove his place That's what I worry about too. Believe me when I say, I'm CHO's biggest fan but his attitude just seems a little off in the past few games. It wouldn't come as a big surprise if he was to throw his toys out of the pram when not getting the minutes he feels entitled to. Hopefully his lack of urgency and poor decision making is simply down to not having a pre season and walking into a team that is playing very well which is highlighting his lack of fitness. I want him to succeed here soo much it would honestly hurt if the hype fizzled out and he ended up moving on. Vesper and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 19 hours ago, DDA said: That's what I worry about too. Believe me when I say, I'm CHO's biggest fan but his attitude just seems a little off in the past few games. It wouldn't come as a big surprise if he was to throw his toys out of the pram when not getting the minutes he feels entitled to. Hopefully his lack of urgency and poor decision making is simply down to not having a pre season and walking into a team that is playing very well which is highlighting his lack of fitness. I want him to succeed here soo much it would honestly hurt if the hype fizzled out and he ended up moving on. Agree, if he gets dropped - could see him going to Arsenal or Everton and being their star. Its finding the balance of him improving finishing/final ball -(again I say hes only 18) and keeping him interested. Hope he stays and becomes one of the best. Vesper and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, Fulham Broadway said: Agree, if he gets dropped - could see him going to Arsenal or Everton and being their star. Its finding the balance of him improving finishing/final ball -(again I say hes only 18) and keeping him interested. Hope he stays and becomes one of the best. If CHO has any brain in him, he would not go to Arsenal or Everton. Johnnyeye and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 12 hours ago, Jason said: If CHO has any brain in him, he would not go to Arsenal or Everton. Agents can be very persuasive to an 18 year old Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Agents can be very persuasive to an 18 year old Then he's not very smart if that's the case. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Jason said: Then he's not very smart if that's the case. Depends what drives him. If he's not getting playing time at SW6 he could get itchy feet, and his agent will push for playing time somewhere else. They would both get 10-15% of 30 or 40m of the selling price, which for some is a big motivator. Hopefully he will fulfil his potential for Chels. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Depends what drives him. If he's not getting playing time at SW6 he could get itchy feet, and his agent will push for playing time somewhere else. They would both get 10-15% of 30 or 40m of the selling price, which for some is a big motivator. Hopefully he will fulfil his potential for Chels. Lets be honest the money hes on here Arsenal and Everton wont top it. Or if they did anyway, it would be a step down regardless so if he decided that was what he wanted to do it would show exactly the sort of person he is. His place last season was never a given and also this season its not. If he thinks he deserves to start every week because he got a new 5 year deal on big wages then he is horribly mistaken. Fulham Broadway and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 45 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Lets be honest the money hes on here Arsenal and Everton wont top it. Or if they did anyway, it would be a step down regardless so if he decided that was what he wanted to do it would show exactly the sort of person he is. His place last season was never a given and also this season its not. If he thinks he deserves to start every week because he got a new 5 year deal on big wages then he is horribly mistaken. Think he just needs to work on his finalball/shot and all will be good. Bosnian Blue, Vesper and OneMoSalah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Called up to England NT for upcoming games. kellzfresh and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNZ 155 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I don't know if it's just me but ever since returning from injury I keep thinking CHO doesn't look as fluid/mobile as he was before the injury. He just moves...differently, I guess. Does anybody else see what I'm saying? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I don't know if it's just me but ever since returning from injury I keep thinking CHO doesn't look as fluid/mobile as he was before the injury. He just moves...differently, I guess. Does anybody else see what I'm saying?This was a pre season game against an Offensive opponent where he had a lot of space. He usually does not have that much space against teams that defend deep.When you watch his first match for the U23 after his injury, he also had his fluid Moments due to the fact that the opponent was shit.Remember, CHO did not play like that in PL even last year. Mostly because he was played out of his best position.Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Still waiting for his first PL goal. Vesper and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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